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Old 04-28-2013, 04:27 PM   #1
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Say what you will about Hulk Hogan...
...but damn, that man can cut a promo.

I used to be a pretty big Hogan-hater when he was still trying to wrestle and take wins from people that he didn't need, but I have to admit that he's really won me over in his authority role in TNA. His mic work is just so passionate and believable that you can't help but root for his intentions. I think his presence in the company is already paying off for the next generation and will only continue to do more of the same in the future.

I felt compelled to say this after watching iMPACT, and if I said it to any of my real life friends, they would probably punch me in the face. So here's a thread for all of us to discuss the modern day Hulkster!

What do you think?

FREAKY! OUTTIE!

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Old 04-28-2013, 04:35 PM   #2
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Hulk is the biggest star and greatest of all time. Always has been and always will be.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:38 PM   #3
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I marked out when he called Matt Morgan a "little bitch", and I have no idea why.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:43 PM   #4
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You make some very good points. My only criticism would be that perhaps there's a little too much Hogan. He seems to be at the centre of everything. Probably gets more TV time than 90% of the roster.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:49 PM   #5
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He is about a million times more over than anyone on the roster. The dumb thing isn't so much that he has been at the center of the main event picture so much. It's that TNA has done such a shitty job of using working with the most over guy of all time to put anyone over that he NEEDS to still be in the center of things.
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Yeah, that's pretty true also. However, one of the biggest complaints in the past about TNA was that the booking was so scatterbrain. At least Hogan helps to streamline the process a bit.
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The only thing streamlined about the booking is that it flows through Hogan. The Hogan/Abyss stuff should have put Abyss over huge, but it was played for comedy, then quickly dropped. The Hogan/Morgan stuff should be turning Morgan into a top-tier star, but he's still being fed to legends. The only real "rub" anyone in TNA got from Hogan being around is Bully Ray.

Now, I'm not a Hogan hater. He gets huge pops wherever TNA goes. But at this point, there are still no new eyes on the product and the top stars now are the same ones that were the top stars when Hogan came (except Ray), so there's been no discernible positive effect of having Hogan around for the company. It's not hurting TNA by any means, but I don't see how it's helping.
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I actually wasn't watching around the time of the Abyss stuff. What happened there? Something about a Hall of Fame ring or something?
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Yeah, Abyss was obsessed with Hogan's WWE Hall of Fame ring, and Hogan basically passed it down to him and Abyss thought it possessed the power of Hulkamania or something. It was weird.
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So would you say the last few episodes of Impact were positively affected by Hogan and his promos?

I haven't watched Impact in a long time so I can't say anything about his recent work, but I remember how lackluster and irrelevant he was from day one. I wouldn't begrudge him actually becoming passionate about his work again mind you, but I'm the tiniest bit skeptical.
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don't pay much attention to TNA so can't really comment on modern day Hogan outside of what I've seen has been good old Hogan quality but

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pretty much this. Have always loved his promos.
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He does seem a little more fired-up than usual, but it's still pretty much the same Hogan promo he's been giving since the mid-'80s. Again, not necessarily a bad thing, but when he keeps talking about revolutionizing the whatever it is this week, it's hard to take him seriously.
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It was sooooooo bad. Say this for Hogan. Who did he beat over his career that you couldnt say" well that guy should have went over." Goldberg beat him, Sting beat him although Nick Patrick fucked up the ending and Sting beat him in the rematch. The Rock beat him, Warrior beat him. Hogan was the biggest thing in WCW and the WWF, so unless there was somebody bigger than him it's hard to justify Hogan losing a lot of the time.

That's what made Goldberg and Warrior's victories so memorable: it's because Hogan never lost and when he did it was so huge. Hogan gets far too much crap when in reality nobody could touch him. He's done some shitty things over the years but the good far outweighs the bad. So what if he wasn't a workrate God. You mean to tell me his matches with Andre and The Rock didn't have you on the edge of your seat? Hogan vs Rock is my favourite match ever and Hogan lost, despite being even more over than The Rock and that says something because The Rock was massivly over.
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....it's still pretty much the same Hogan promo he's been giving since the mid-'80s.
see: pretty much any guy that's ever been good with promos ever from Randy Savage to CM Punk.

Savage: "Ohhh yeah", something in a small tense voice referencing the person or thing the promo is about before something about "the Macho May-un" doing something before LOUD BURST with raised clenched fingertips back to small tense voice before saying something like "funky like a monkey" at normal volume then gradually getting louder as he finishes the promo whilst getting the main points (date/location blah blah) before DIG IT! *gurn* *walk off*

CM Punk: look smug, smark reference, worked shoot comment, look smug, smark reference, worked shoot comment, look smug etc. Add boasting and insults for when heel.

You go with what works. Do you expect HBO-esque monologues?
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I kind of want to just watch "good" Hogan promos from throughout his career now.

So yeah...
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At age 60 Hogan could return to the WWE and instantly be the most over person in the company and it's not even close. He already did when Austin and The Rock were there 10 years ago.
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see: pretty much any guy that's ever been good with promos ever from Randy Savage to CM Punk.

Savage: "Ohhh yeah", something in a small tense voice referencing the person or thing the promo is about before something about "the Macho May-un" doing something before LOUD BURST with raised clenched fingertips back to small tense voice before saying something like "funky like a monkey" at normal volume then gradually getting louder as he finishes the promo whilst getting the main points (date/location blah blah) before DIG IT! *gurn* *walk off*

CM Punk: look smug, smark reference, worked shoot comment, look smug, smark reference, worked shoot comment, look smug etc. Add boasting and insults for when heel.

You go with what works. Do you expect HBO-esque monologues?
Not at all. Hogan is excellent at what he does. It just feels disingenuous when he talks about revolutionizing the industry while changing nothing about himself.
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Hollywood Hogan was such a fucking badass.
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TNA has no clue how to build people up or capitalize on someone when they're over. James Storm and Bobby Roode were both over massively during their title feud, but for some reason TNA decided to drop Storm from the picture and try to copy WWE's success with CM Punk by putting Austin Aries over. I love Aries don't get me wrong, but Storm and Roode could have been cemented as the top stars of TNA with that feud.
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Modern Day Hogan, he's been through a lot in and out of the ring. From a positive point of view, it is easy to overlook all the shit he has put out or been accused of. I can honestly sit down and watch TNA and not feel that Hogan is taking the spotlight. There is plenty of camera time for others to capture their moments.



He's been filmed through his good and bad times. Nobody is perfect, not even the Immortal Hulk Hogan/Terry Bollea.

He was the master back in his prime at backstage promos. Those backstage promos were the shit. Especially when 2-3 or more wrestlers were on camera.
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As for Hogan, yeah he was good at what he did but what he did was appeal to children. TNA is trying (key word trying) to appeal to a more "mature" audience.

And before I get the "Hollywood Hogan you dumbass!" remarks that's fine and dandy, but Hogan is trying to be Hulkamania Hogan in there right now which is ridiculous.
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Hollywood Hogan was fucking money and the build up to Starcade with Sting was the best ever. Even had mini-feuds with Luger and Piper, all the while Sting just lurked in the shadows.
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Hollywood Hogan was fucking money and the build up to Starcade with Sting was the best ever. Even had mini-feuds with Luger and Piper, all the while Sting just lurked in the shadows.
If Hogan wants to do something for TNA he absolutely needs to be Hollywood Hogan. The only possible way he's going to have any positive and lasting impression on TNA is to be a massive heel to put over the young guys.
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As for Hogan, yeah he was good at what he did but what he did was appeal to children. TNA is trying (key word trying) to appeal to a more "mature" audience.

And before I get the "Hollywood Hogan you dumbass!" remarks that's fine and dandy, but Hogan is trying to be Hulkamania Hogan in there right now which is ridiculous.
Hollywood Hogan doesn't work if he's a face and vice versa with Hulkamania Hogan as a heel. It has to be Hulkamania Hogan, and if he's staying out of the ring then it works. People love face Hogan and that's what is making Bully and the Aces so hated. It appeals to the mature because Aces and Eights are so violent.

I never watch TNA so I'm guessing at what's happening.
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If Hogan wants to do something for TNA he absolutely needs to be Hollywood Hogan. The only possible way he's going to have any positive and lasting impression on TNA is to be a massive heel to put over the young guys.
Then you're taking the focus off Bully Ray if Hogan is a heel. Hogan needs to be a face in this.
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What TNA should do is sign Heath Slater somehow and have Slater be the leader of Aces and Eights because he's the best promo guy in the business.
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Festus is in the Aces and Eights, I don't know why he isn't the stable master. Dude was entertaining in WWE.
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Hollywood Hogan doesn't work if he's a face and vice versa with Hulkamania Hogan as a heel. It has to be Hulkamania Hogan, and if he's staying out of the ring then it works. People love face Hogan and that's what is making Bully and the Aces so hated. It appeals to the mature because Aces and Eights are so violent.

I never watch TNA so I'm guessing at what's happening.
That's the thing you're guessing. I watch TNA regularly. Aces and 8s are actually liked more then they're hated half the time and until Bully became the head honcho they got very little real reaction. Fact is they've beaten Hogan up multiple times already so every time they get in the ring with him it's no surprise what's gonna happen. Hollywood Hogan should have been revealed as the leader of Aces and 8s with Bully as the VP instead of D-Lo. Then you'd have a perfect vehicle to get the young guys over by being the ones to beat Hogan's enforcers.
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Didn't they try this about a billion times with Fourtune and whatever shit Hogan was leading whenhe came to TNA?
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Then you're taking the focus off Bully Ray if Hogan is a heel. Hogan needs to be a face in this.
Bully got one of if not the best face reactions I've ever seen in TNA. The only reason I can see that they dropped it is because of his age. Vince McMahon as the evil authority figure was the greatest thing to ever happen to WWE because people hate authority. Hogan as a heel authority figure would be money especially when someone finally kicked his head in at the end.
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Didn't they try this about a billion times with Fourtune and whatever shit Hogan was leading whenhe came to TNA?
Flair lead Fortune. Hogan was heel for a bit against Dixie but he never really lead a stable and it was only used to have Sting go over who was essentially in the same boat Hogan is.
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Not at all. Hogan is excellent at what he does. It just feels disingenuous when he talks about revolutionizing the industry while changing nothing about himself.
what, Hogan went through the biggest "impact character change" in the history of pro wrestling/completely reinvented himself practically overnight, which served as the shot/jump start that revolutionized the entire industry
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It was sooooooo bad. Say this for Hogan. Who did he beat over his career that you couldnt say" well that guy should have went over." Goldberg beat him, Sting beat him although Nick Patrick fucked up the ending and Sting beat him in the rematch. The Rock beat him, Warrior beat him. Hogan was the biggest thing in WCW and the WWF, so unless there was somebody bigger than him it's hard to justify Hogan losing a lot of the time.
This is why the whole "UGH CENA WINS! " thing has always been fucking retarded. He's always lost more than he should if anything. The man has been on another level from anyone else on the roster pretty much since he became "SuperCena". That's what happens. You don't job your franchise out left and right. When it happens, you make it mean something. Hogan's major losses still stick out to this day as memorable because they weren't monthly occurrences.
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At age 60 Hogan could return to the WWE and instantly be the most over person in the company and it's not even close. He already did when Austin and The Rock were there 10 years ago.
I think Rock now is more over than Hogan now. If not, it's definitely close.
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