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Old 12-06-2013, 11:44 PM   #1
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2013 Hell in a Cell: 200,000

Looks like cena is breaking records everywhere
Unforgiven 2000: 605,000(Austin's comeback)


No Way Out 2003: 450,000 (Austin's comeback)

This is what happens when people actually wanna see someone return.

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Old 12-07-2013, 12:21 AM   #2
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It's up from last year
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Old 12-07-2013, 01:35 AM   #3
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It's also up from the previous two Cena-less PPVs.

So unless WWE expected Cena's return after a 2 month absence to bring PPV buyrates back into Austin-era numbers like AJ lee's seems to think they were, good job Cena.
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Old 12-07-2013, 09:24 AM   #4
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Was the OP's point that John Cena today isn't as over as Steve Austin was at the end of the Attitude Era?

If so, couldn't we point out that Steve Austin challenging The Rock for the WWF Championship did 1,040,000 buys at WrestleMania X-Seven against John Cena challenging The Rock for the WWE Championship doing 1,039,000 buys at WrestleMania 29. By that logic, they're almost just the same.

John Cena can't and shouldn't be measured against the hottest period of wrestling, he can only help or detract from the current product. And considering his presence has increased views from previous events without him, one would think he's doing more good than harm.
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Old 12-07-2013, 02:10 PM   #7
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Old 12-07-2013, 04:40 PM   #10
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You're totally right. The only variable that has changed in the past decade is replacing Austin with Cena.

Groundbreaking analysis here.
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Was the OP's point that John Cena today isn't as over as Steve Austin was at the end of the Attitude Era?

If so, couldn't we point out that Steve Austin challenging The Rock for the WWF Championship did 1,040,000 buys at WrestleMania X-Seven against John Cena challenging The Rock for the WWE Championship doing 1,039,000 buys at WrestleMania 29. By that logic, they're almost just the same.

John Cena can't and shouldn't be measured against the hottest period of wrestling, he can only help or detract from the current product. And considering his presence has increased views from previous events without him, one would think he's doing more good than harm.
Yeah. WM is the biggest ppv and Austin's return was at 2 throw away ppvs



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Old 12-07-2013, 07:36 PM   #13
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Old 12-07-2013, 07:43 PM   #15
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Cena is the top draw in wrestling today. No questions asked. It's not Cena's fault wrestling "fans" don't buy the PPVs like they used too, and sit in the parents basement and watch the PPV from their command centre.
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Old 12-07-2013, 08:05 PM   #18
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that is probably a higher buyrate than Survivor Series will generate
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Old 12-07-2013, 08:16 PM   #19
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AJ lee's, if real, is going to become the Queen of TPWW just off her responding to other posters like a good poster should.

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Yeah. WM is the biggest ppv and Austin's return was at 2 throw away ppvs
In the Attitude Era throw away PPVs were routinely given huge matches. It was all part of Russo car crash theory of continue to bombard the audience constantly. I mean, come on, the Unforgiven 2000 event can hardly be called "Austin's return" since he didn't do anything other than walk around and ask people who hit him with a car. Meanwhile the Main Event was The Rock vs. a still fresh from returning Undertaker vs. Kane vs. Benoit. Plus it had E&C vs. Hardyz in a cage match at the peak of the TLC trio era, AND it boasted a match with the most over Superstar in WWE history; I am of course talking about Steve Blackman.

Meanwhile No Way Out 2003 had Austin coming back to have a joke bout with Eric Bischoff. Not really a return to form for the Rattlesnake. If anything I think principle selling point of the event was the emotionally disappointing Rock/Hogan II match, not Austin beating on Eazy E for a few minutes. That or people were dying to see the Steiner/HHH feud finally come to an end. Yeah let's say it was that, cause I know the body showdown get people's expectations wayyyyy up.

I get what you're trying to say, that Steve Austin's comebacks generated more hype than John Cena's comebacks do. And you're not wrong. But you're framing the issue using PPV buyrates during the single hottest period of wrestling against the buyrates of today's less than impressive market. WWE is not as popular as it was during the Attitude Era. John Cena is not as popular as Steve Austin. These are fairly universally accepted truths. So I guess my question now is, what was the point of bringing up Austin's return buys against Cena's? To reiterate a point we already know?
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Old 12-08-2013, 04:41 PM   #29
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Old 12-08-2013, 04:55 PM   #30
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Old 12-08-2013, 09:17 PM   #31
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Old 12-09-2013, 12:57 AM   #32
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Guys, guys. You're missing the main point here.

AJ Lee's is a stupid bitch.
C'mon Man!

come up with something more demeaning than that
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:03 AM   #33
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AJ Lee's, let Bad News Gertner take care of this malcontent.

Btw, my gf still wants a pic.
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:07 AM   #34
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AJ Lee's, let Bad News Gertner take care of this malcontent.

Btw, my gf still wants a pic.
haven't yall already seen what i look like?
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:09 AM   #35
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No, unfortunately we have not
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:11 AM   #36
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i'll think about it but not really worth the debate.
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:12 AM   #37
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My gf will be deeply upset. You could always pm it and hide it from these pigs and degenerates.
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come up with something more demeaning than that
Mmyes. You like that abuse, don't you!
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:49 AM   #39
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thread got weird fast.
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:49 AM   #40
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btw i still want pics, as we are all dirty, dirty girls.
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