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Old 03-12-2014, 03:56 PM   #1
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Book it: Undertaker retires with streak intact
Please, show me how this could be fun or great or whatever.

In my head I can't think of anything that does the Undertaker's career justice. The best I have is him coming out after beating Brock and saying, "one more time."

Then the entire WWE universe scrambles to get to be the last man the Dead Man faces until the Road to Wrestlemania where the Rumble Winner chooses to challenge the Streak.

It's doable, but I don't see any magic there. It doesn't do it for me. So someone, anyone, come up with a great way to retire Undertaker that doesn't involve him losing at Wrestlemania.

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Old 03-12-2014, 04:08 PM   #2
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I have always felt that the best way is for him to go out against Kane . I know they have already fought a couple times at mania.. But I think Kane is the most fitting for takers swan song. Other than him, I would say foley, but I'm pretty sure his body is finished, and he can't go anymore.
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Old 03-12-2014, 04:12 PM   #3
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Undertaker beats Brock with the stinger splash/scorpion death drop combo then challenges sting to a match next year. Then next year at WM He beats sting by DQ when surfer sting hits him with a surf board. Then he retires. Now that's good booking.
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Old 03-12-2014, 04:22 PM   #4
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he could get the shit kicked out of him, sort of like his past couple matches with triple h, only make it a bit worse or believable or whatever. he could then go on to say it was the toughest match he's ever had and it has forced him to never compete again. the guy he faced could get a little rub from it too since he was the guy who retired the undertaker.


i dunno, something's there. you make sense of it
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John Cena has him beat, but out of respect, John Cena lays down and pulls the unconscious Undertaker on top of him for the 1-2-3.
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John Cena has him beat, but out of respect, John Cena lays down and pulls the unconscious Undertaker on top of him for the 1-2-3.
That's actually a beautiful way to do a Cena/Undertaker match, but I don't think it works as a retirement angle.
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John Cena has him beat, but out of respect, John Cena lays down and pulls the unconscious Undertaker on top of him for the 1-2-3.
That would be epic. And the brief would still boo Cena.
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John Cena has him beat, but out of respect, John Cena lays down and pulls the unconscious Undertaker on top of him for the 1-2-3.
I actually like this idea a lot.
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I actually like this idea a lot.
me too.
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Old 03-12-2014, 10:00 PM   #10
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John Cena has him beat, but out of respect, John Cena lays down and pulls the unconscious Undertaker on top of him for the 1-2-3.
you're getting some agreement here, but i have to go against it. i think this is a terrible ending. a charity win is a bigger stain on the legacy than just losing.

i also don't understand how challenging the streak and purposefully tanking it translates as a sign of respect.

i like cena, but i'd boo the piss out of that ending.
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Old 03-12-2014, 04:45 PM   #11
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You end The Streak without actually ending it. Undertaker comes to and has his last farewell celebration.
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Old 03-12-2014, 04:57 PM   #12
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the main question is from a booking standpoint if an up and comer gets the rub by ending the streak does it give him enough upside to make him a legit star? if it's say Bray Wyatt you have taker put him over and retire.

If it's Cena he gains nothing by beating take so you have taker go over. cut the lights, lights come back up and like someone said before the urn is left in the ring and majestic
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WWE have everything to gain by having Lesnar + Punk end the streak. Especially with a lot of up-and-coming tweeners and faces who could use the rub by feuding with them.

Plus it's a compelling story. Everybody will want to see Punk and Lesnar lose, they'll have ECW Raven heat...where fans just want them to die.
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WrestleMania 31 - Cena has the Undertaker beat, but has second thoughts of ending the streaking, because he doesn't want the burden. Taker capitalizes on Cena's weakness and goes 23-0.

It's been announced that the Undertaker has a major announcement at the 2014 Slammy Awards.

Slammy Awards 2014 - Taker comes out, and begins hinting at retirement. Cena makes his way out and asks the Undertaker for one more match. Taker refuses. Cena then pushes Taker by mentioning that if it weren't for his second guessing in San Jose, that the streak would be over. After Cena cuts an awesome promo and persuades Taker that he can't end his career "not knowing" if he can truly beat Cena, Taker agrees to one more, final match.

WrestleMania 32 in Dallas, TX - Undertaker vs. Cena II is the headliner. I'm a huge mark for the streak, so I would love for it to end "perfect' at 24-0 over Cena in Taker's home state.

I feel Cena/Taker has such appeal, that WWE needs to do it twice. I would also start the build to Taker's "final match" very early to give it the proper build it deserves.
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WrestleMania 31 - Cena has the Undertaker beat, but has second thoughts of ending the streaking, because he doesn't want the burden. Taker capitalizes on Cena's weakness and goes 23-0.

It's been announced that the Undertaker has a major announcement at the 2014 Slammy Awards.

Slammy Awards 2014 - Taker comes out, and begins hinting at retirement. Cena makes his way out and asks the Undertaker for one more match. Taker refuses. Cena then pushes Taker by mentioning that if it weren't for his second guessing in San Jose, that the streak would be over. After Cena cuts an awesome promo and persuades Taker that he can't end his career "not knowing" if he can truly beat Cena, Taker agrees to one more, final match.

WrestleMania 32 in Dallas, TX - Undertaker vs. Cena II is the headliner. I'm a huge mark for the streak, so I would love for it to end "perfect' at 24-0 over Cena in Taker's home state.

I feel Cena/Taker has such appeal, that WWE needs to do it twice. I would also start the build to Taker's "final match" very early to give it the proper build it deserves.
That's a thoughtful approach in my opinion. I like it.
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Brock is an asshole in real life, and a lot of people think CM Punk is a whiny arrogant jerk etc.

It'd be a waste of an excellent opportunity to miss what would be the most bold booking decision since Vince "screwed" Bret. Lesnar, Punk, Heyman, Triple H and Stephanie McMahon + Batista and Orton would be a fantastic stable of super-villains against tweener Shield, Cesaro, Bryan, tweener Wyatts, Cena, The Usos and the roster of boring babyface characters currently wasting space.
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All depends on how long Taker can keep going, really.

Have him beat Lesnar is a hard fought, hard-hitting match. Post match Taker struggles to his feet as the crowd gives their approval. He takes a knee in the centre of the ring as the lights go out. Suddenly a lightning bolt hits the stage and the screens light up in blinding white. A figure stands on the stage. The lights dim a little and the figure is revealed as The Man They Call Sting. He points his trademark baseball bat at Taker. Taker looks on, he nods slowly. Sting smiles and returns the nod.

Between Mania 30 and 31 Sting makes semi-regular appearances, like Lesnar. Give him a few big programmes in the lead up, perhaps a feud with Kane. Taker beats Sting at 31 to go 22-0. Sting retires into the HOF.

For Mania 31, you have to go with a match vs. Cena. Personally I'd prefer to see the streak end, maybe not against Cena but it's likely what WWE would do. If you want the streak in tact, you have Taker win. Shake hands with Cena. Look around the crowd, emotional. Take a knee, the lights to out. When they come on, he's gone. The urn is in his place, or his hat, or gloves.
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There's so many variables.

You could plan so much ahead of time only to find that Taker isn't healthy enough to compete.

You could work towards a guy like Roman Reigns eventually taking The Streak in 2-3 years. Especially if Cena is looking to be on his way out. I'd like to see a programme between Taker and Bray but there's rumour that they'll do that this summer. Also, does Bray have the longevity?

30 vs. Lesnar
31 vs. Sting/Bray
32 vs. Cena
33 vs. Reigns
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There's so many variables.

You could plan so much ahead of time only to find that Taker isn't healthy enough to compete.

You could work towards a guy like Roman Reigns eventually taking The Streak in 2-3 years. Especially if Cena is looking to be on his way out. I'd like to see a programme between Taker and Bray but there's rumour that they'll do that this summer. Also, does Bray have the longevity?

30 vs. Lesnar
31 vs. Sting/Bray
32 vs. Cena
33 vs. Reigns
I could imagine Cena doing Make-A-Wish for years after he retires.
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The Undertaker is getting older, it's not going to mean as much if someone breaks the streak when he's like 60.
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I personally think it would be a bad idea to break the streak at this point. It would have had more of an impact if it was broken in 2000-2005 when it was still big but not quite as contrived as it is now. There's a window for that sort of thing, and it has become so over-hyped that breaking it would be anticlimactic no matter who he was against. The WWE always does things 10-15 years later than when they should have been done though.
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He should wrestle Kane.

After the match Kane should bring a suit in the ring and take Undertaker's gear from him, hand him the suit. Undertaker will then put on the suit and leave the ring to enter the real world.

Kane will then put undertaker's gear in a trash can and set it ablaze, thus absorbing Undertaker's powers. Kane will then start an undefeated streak at WM until he chooses to retire.
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He should wrestle Kane.

After the match Kane should bring a suit in the ring and take Undertaker's gear from him, hand him the suit. Undertaker will then put on the suit and leave the ring to enter the real world.

Kane will then put undertaker's gear in a trash can and set it ablaze, thus absorbing Undertaker's powers. Kane will then start an undefeated streak at WM until he chooses to retire.
This but replace Kane with Neil Patrick Harris
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When WWE was in Green Bay a couple weeks ago and Larry "The Axe" came out with Rybaxel, I thought he looked a LOT like he could have been related to Paul Bearer. I'm not necessarily saying that Curtis Axel has to be involved with the angle, but I wouldn't be against "Saul Bearer" making an appearance and escorting Undertaker away to "other realms" or somesuch.
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Old 03-13-2014, 01:55 AM   #32
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I hate any idea that has the streak ending. It should never be beat, and it won't be.
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I hate any idea that has the streak ending. It should never be beat, and it won't be.
This is the sort of person who will hate on whoever does end the streak. There's a built-in boo-factory for anyone who ends the streak, especially in a dirty way.

That so many people are so passionate about keeping the streak intact is the best possible reason for ending it. Pissing off the fans is part of wrestling. If bookers and wrestlers never tried successfully to piss off the fans wrestling would ultimately be boring and completely predictable.
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I don't know of any way Taker retires with the streak in tact that doesn't leave a big hole where WWE just willingly gave up arguably the biggest moment in WWE history.

I don't even care so much about giving the rub to a new guy. No one can live up to that moment enough to make it worthwhile. I care about the moment that will live on forever right along with Hogan slamming Andre.
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Old 03-13-2014, 02:41 AM   #35
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This is something I've been wanting to see the past few years:

A cocky heel up-and-comer wins the Intercontinental Championship at either TLC or Royal Rumble. At Elimination Chamber, he successfully defends the title against five former IC champions in a six-pack challenge. The next night on Raw, said heel cuts a promo about how he's beaten everyone in his division, so he makes an open challenge for anyone who's never been IC champion to take him on at Wrestlemania.

*gong*

Taker comes out, says he has one match left in him, and one title left he's never won. The heel has no choice but to accept. At Wrestlemania, Taker gets the win, but only barely - never before has a midcarder pushed Taker so hard at Wrestlemania. Despite losing, the heel looks great. Taker retires the next night, after finally completing his Triple Crown, and a tournament is set up for the next PPV to determine the next Intercontinental Champion.

I know the IC title is kinda "beneath" Undertaker, but I really want to see him get his Triple Crown before he retires.
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Lance Storm's idea is the best. Have Taker come out and announce that he'll retire when the streak gets broken. That leaves thing open ended and adds a layer to the matches.
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It needs another element. The Undertaker Manie matches are getting old. The one time I turned off Raw this week was when The Undertaker came on. The idea of him saying he will retire once someone beats him will add a bit of unpredictability to the matches. Would prefer for him to just retire though.
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I loved that idea with Cena, they'd have to work it just perfectly, in the vain of HBK/Flair or Austin/Bret for that angle to get over. The idea of Cena having him beat but unable to get on for the count only to be gogoplata'ed and choked out would be fucking epic.

One, Cena has the gimmick and the right for a rematch since he hesitated out of respect for the streak. Two, Taker choked him out, he didn't tap. Badda binng badda boom. That would rock.

Also love the idea that after Taker kills Brock, that Sting appears. However, I'd have Sting go on an undefeated PPV streak through the year to give him super over with the WWE Universe before succumbing to a tombostone at WM 31.
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I loved that idea with Cena, they'd have to work it just perfectly, in the vain of HBK/Flair or Austin/Bret for that angle to get over. The idea of Cena having him beat but unable to get on for the count only to be gogoplata'ed and choked out would be fucking epic.

One, Cena has the gimmick and the right for a rematch since he hesitated out of respect for the streak. Two, Taker choked him out, he didn't tap. Badda binng badda boom. That would rock.

Also love the idea that after Taker kills Brock, that Sting appears. However, I'd have Sting go on an undefeated PPV streak through the year to give him super over with the WWE Universe before succumbing to a tombostone at WM 31.
There is definitely potential there. My big thing is that no matter what, Taker's retirement has to be big and special. It'd be lame for him to just announce his retirement after beating Brock.
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Cena hitting a couple A.A.s and getting on his knees next to a laid out Taker but looking to the crowd and hesitating to go for the pin thus allowing Taker to lock in the gogoplata and choke him out, thus leading to a rematch the next year sounds like it could be epic.

Cena having Taker beaten and then just laying down and letting Taker pin him so he doesn't end the streak would be horrific though in so many ways. Other than just the bullshit non-finish for a match that would be hyped as one of the biggest matches ever, it would be a pity win for Taker. Character-wise, it would be kind of a bitch move for Taker to just accept that he was beat but was given a pity win just to keep the streak alive on a technicality. Not to mention it would actually come off as disrespectful on Cena's part. He's basically reducing the streak to a meaningless number as opposed to a number signifying Taker's invincibility at WrestleMania. "For the first time, Taker wasn't the better man at WrestleMania... but I felt bad about ACTUALLY adding a '-1' to the end of that streak so I didn't make it official."
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