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Old 07-07-2014, 08:54 PM   #1
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Historical Evolution of WWE vs. Recent Historical Trends
The WWE network has opened my eyes to something that has never caught my attention until now: the slowed or ceased evolution of the WWE product for nearly a decade...

1987-88: The WWF is populated by big guys and hosses. The matches are larger than life featuring essentially flesh and blood cartoon characters in brawls and sloppy "work." Hulkamania is at it's peak and carrying the WWF but the young fans are growing up and weary and change comes in dribs and drabs with Ultimate Warrior, Sid Justice and Ric Flair over the course of the next several years.

1992-93: A new era is clearly underway... Hulkamania is for all intents and purposes finished. Hart, Luger, Perfect, Yoko, Michaels, Jannetty, Diesel, Undertaker and Ramon are all pegged as the future as the last vestiges of Rock n' Rasslin are swept away for this new era. It is perfectly encapsulated at KOTR '93 which is main evented by Bret Hart and Yokozuna defeats Hulk Hogan for the title and the last time Hogan is seen in a WWF ring for nearly a decade. "Workrate" is given higher priority, but to the detriment of character development and the grandiose size of the previous era. This era is seemingly defined by the "career gimmicks," brightly colored wrestlers, and the lack of capitalizing on the Undertaker.

1997-98: Almost 5 years to the date that Hulkamania ended we see Mankind fly 20+ feet off the Hell in a Cell in the image that defines the Attitude era. Workrate takes a backseat to characters and angles... an era with Sable's handprint bikini... Austin's beer swilling... the Godfather and his Ho's... TAFKA Goldust... the 3 faces of Foley... The Nation vs. DX... the hardcore division... Val Venis porn movies... coarser language, violence and sexual content... The entire landscape had changed as had the traditional roles of faces and heels. Even little details like a contemporary use of music from the dated mid-90's fare to using edier material like Marilyn Manson, System of a Down and Disturbed. For a few years the WWF was the hottest ticket in all of entertainment and all because they evolved with the times rather than sticking with New Gen attitudes and characters like Ahmed Johnson, Hunter Hearst Helmsley, the Godwins, Rocky Maivia, and Mabel.

2001-2005: I watched most of this era but dropped out in mid-late 2003, basically the main event death valley overseen by HHH. I can even pinpoint the loss of my fandom as Badd Blood 2003--- just brutal. People call this the Ruthless Aggression era with more emphasis on WRESTLING due tot he talents of Benoit, RVD, Guerrero, Angle, Lesnar, HHH when motivated, Team Angle, Jericho, HBK, Edge and Christian as well as the up and coming talents like Orton, Batista and Cena. Times were changing and it was visible as Austin, Rock, the Dudleys, and others faded into the background.

Which brings me to the last 8 or so years, Does the product seem as stanant to you? Everything from the announcing, the set design, the stock characters and storyline seem like they could have been dropped in at anytime in the last decade. Is it by design, by comfort and lack of competition? Do you feel like the "Reality Era," is just a talking point or throw away line or a very real step in WWE's evolution? Am I making sense or completely off base and just bitching because I fell into this wealth of wrestling nostalgia?

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Old 07-07-2014, 09:33 PM   #2
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I definitely know what you mean. I felt the same way when I was using the WWE Network for the first time.

Those others eras are so defined. You can start up IYH: Badd Blood and you know "oh, this is the birth of DX - Austin isn't the man yet, but he's going to be soon - this is pre-screwjob stuff..." You start up TLC 2006 or Summerslam 2007 or Bragging Rights 2008 and it all kind of feels the same - very cookie cutter. "Cena is the man, Edge is the man, there's CM Punk jobbing."

I don't think I summed that up very well, but whatever, fuck you.
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Old 07-07-2014, 09:41 PM   #3
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Yeah I know what you mean Crazy. They should prob turn Cena heel and go back to tv-14. I don't think anyone has ever come up with that idea before.
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Old 07-08-2014, 08:16 AM   #4
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Anyways, I think you need your personal low point opinions of Pro Wrestling to enjoy the high points. That's the way I feel, I have two sons that watch the current stuff with me and I'm contempt to a point about the stuff they are putting out.

I have just filled the empty hole with my own era of shows from the Network and don't feel like WWE is going away soon or will gather data from my demographic like I suspect they do, but it sounds too good so I just accept it at times. At the end of the day, I'm a big fan of what's Best for Business and have the patience to wait for the next big thing to pop off when I least suspect it.
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Old 07-08-2014, 09:40 AM   #6
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Its not really an evolution as much as it is cyclical, there was a return to the 'big hosses' a few years back when Cena/Batista/Lashley were atop the three brands.

Now its another 'workrate' based era where wrestling skill takes precedent over charisma, with boring guys like CM Punk and Danielson the poster boys. Reminds me of the Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels days when NOBODY GAVE A SHIT about WWF
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Old 07-08-2014, 11:34 AM   #7
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I dont think I would Call Cena a Hoss.
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