TPWW Forums  

Go Back   TPWW Forums > o f f t o p i c > entertainment forum
Reload this Page Is it a Classic: Independence Day
Register Members List

View Poll Results: Is Independence Day a "Classic"
Yes 9 81.82%
No 2 18.18%
Voters: 11. You must log in or register to vote on this poll.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-15-2014, 10:10 PM   #1
Frank Drebin
Large Marge sent me
 
Frank Drebin's Avatar
 
Posts: 32,360
Frank Drebin makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Frank Drebin makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Frank Drebin makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Frank Drebin makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Frank Drebin makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Frank Drebin makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Frank Drebin makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Frank Drebin makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Frank Drebin makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Frank Drebin makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Frank Drebin makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Frank Drebin makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Frank Drebin makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Is it a Classic: Independence Day
I memba watching the Super Bowl and seeing this teaser:



and thinking "whhhooooooo!!" Really a template for the modern day sci fi blockbuster. Quotable lines, esssplosions, career launcher, the works. But I don't think I've ever seen this in anyone's dvd/blu ray collection.

So before I say "Welcome to Earf" I will ask....is Independence Day a "Classic"?
Frank Drebin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2014, 10:48 PM   #2
Lock Jaw
Skibbidy Lock Jaw
 
Lock Jaw's Avatar
 
Posts: 88,634
Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Lock Jaw makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Absolutely a classic. So many classic scenes, lines, etc. Music is also classic.
Lock Jaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2014, 11:01 PM   #3
SlickyTrickyDamon
Quark is Less Impressed.
 
SlickyTrickyDamon's Avatar
 
Posts: 38,371
SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Yes, it was the forerunner of the big summer blockbusters that we sometimes enjoy. I must have saw this in the theater at least two or three times when it first came out.
SlickyTrickyDamon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2014, 11:47 PM   #4
Nowhere Man
Now. Here. Man.
 
Nowhere Man's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,370
Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)
I'd say that Independence Day is proof-positive that a movie can be a classic without actually being good.

I mean, there's no denying that it's a horrendously stupid movie-- I mean, this is the same guy that did The Day After Tomorrow, 2012, and the '98 Godzilla. There's really no point in analyzing the plot, the characters, the dialogue, etc, because they all exist solely to have an excuse for Roland Emmerich to blow up a bunch of monuments. And that's not even getting into the absurdity of an interstellar alien species using computers that are compatible with 90s MacOS.

On the other hand, there's also no denying how much of it is ingrained in pop culture to this day. Sure, the destruction was nothing but pure disaster porn, but it was fun disaster porn. Sure, the characters were almost all one-note stereotypes, but at least they were really quotable. And this movie did wonders for Wil Smith's career, exposing him to the huge summer-blockbuster audience in numbers that the R-Rated Bad Boys couldn't.

Plus, y'know, there's probably the single greatest corny-inspirational speech in movie history:



The guy saluting so goddamn hard at the end is what really sells it.

So yeah, I'm gonna say ID4 is a classic. It's also stupid as hell, but not every movie needs to be Ingmar Bergman.
Nowhere Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2014, 11:51 PM   #5
SlickyTrickyDamon
Quark is Less Impressed.
 
SlickyTrickyDamon's Avatar
 
Posts: 38,371
SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
To be fair Bad Boys Made 141 million on a 20 million dollar budget.
SlickyTrickyDamon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2014, 02:02 AM   #6
Bobholly138
DIY MS FILMWORKS
 
Bobholly138's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,039
Bobholly138 is good (20,000+)Bobholly138 is good (20,000+)Bobholly138 is good (20,000+)Bobholly138 is good (20,000+)Bobholly138 is good (20,000+)Bobholly138 is good (20,000+)Bobholly138 is good (20,000+)Bobholly138 is good (20,000+)
Fuck no. It is one of the worst films I saw in a theater. Over hyped and has plot holes,bad acting and just flat out sucks.
Bobholly138 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2014, 06:44 AM   #7
El Vaquero de Infierno
Sisukas Mies
 
El Vaquero de Infierno's Avatar
 
Posts: 15,655
El Vaquero de Infierno makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)El Vaquero de Infierno makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)El Vaquero de Infierno makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)El Vaquero de Infierno makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)El Vaquero de Infierno makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)El Vaquero de Infierno makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)El Vaquero de Infierno makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)El Vaquero de Infierno makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)El Vaquero de Infierno makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)El Vaquero de Infierno makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)El Vaquero de Infierno makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)El Vaquero de Infierno makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)El Vaquero de Infierno makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
I put it over the Michael Bay tosh that appears every few summers.
El Vaquero de Infierno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2014, 10:13 AM   #8
road doggy dogg
wekasauce
 
road doggy dogg's Avatar
 
Posts: 106,857
road doggy dogg makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)road doggy dogg makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)road doggy dogg makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)road doggy dogg makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)road doggy dogg makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)road doggy dogg makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)road doggy dogg makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)road doggy dogg makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)road doggy dogg makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)road doggy dogg makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)road doggy dogg makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)road doggy dogg makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)road doggy dogg makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nowhere Man View Post
I'd say that Independence Day is proof-positive that a movie can be a classic without actually being good.

I mean, there's no denying that it's a horrendously stupid movie-- I mean, this is the same guy that did The Day After Tomorrow, 2012, and the '98 Godzilla. There's really no point in analyzing the plot, the characters, the dialogue, etc, because they all exist solely to have an excuse for Roland Emmerich to blow up a bunch of monuments. And that's not even getting into the absurdity of an interstellar alien species using computers that are compatible with 90s MacOS.

On the other hand, there's also no denying how much of it is ingrained in pop culture to this day. Sure, the destruction was nothing but pure disaster porn, but it was fun disaster porn. Sure, the characters were almost all one-note stereotypes, but at least they were really quotable. And this movie did wonders for Wil Smith's career, exposing him to the huge summer-blockbuster audience in numbers that the R-Rated Bad Boys couldn't.

Plus, y'know, there's probably the single greatest corny-inspirational speech in movie history:



The guy saluting so goddamn hard at the end is what really sells it.

So yeah, I'm gonna say ID4 is a classic. It's also stupid as hell, but not every movie needs to be Ingmar Bergman.
oh my god I would hate to do anything fun in life ever (re: movies, amusement parks, dinosaur stuff, activities) with you

fucking buzzkill deluxe mode here
road doggy dogg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2014, 10:14 AM   #9
Nowhere Man
Now. Here. Man.
 
Nowhere Man's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,370
Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)
THINKING AM HARD, MAKE ANGRY
Last edited by Nowhere Man; 07-16-2014 at 10:37 AM.
Nowhere Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2014, 07:09 PM   #10
The Vindicator
Social Outclass
 
The Vindicator's Avatar
 
Posts: 366
The Vindicator has a great deal of rep (15,000+)The Vindicator has a great deal of rep (15,000+)The Vindicator has a great deal of rep (15,000+)The Vindicator has a great deal of rep (15,000+)The Vindicator has a great deal of rep (15,000+)The Vindicator has a great deal of rep (15,000+)The Vindicator has a great deal of rep (15,000+)
Objectivity is not a buzzkill. It's being objective. You can still like things that are, objectively, not good.
The Vindicator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2014, 08:40 PM   #11
JimmyMess
Snow Mexican
 
Posts: 3,628
JimmyMess puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)JimmyMess puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)JimmyMess puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)JimmyMess puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)JimmyMess puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)JimmyMess puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)JimmyMess puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)JimmyMess puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)JimmyMess puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)
"NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL A CLOSE ENCOUNTER"
JimmyMess is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2014, 09:14 PM   #12
Emperor Smeat
Former TPWW Royalty
 
Emperor Smeat's Avatar
 
Posts: 66,656
Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
I'd say yes.

While not great, it was still decent enough to be memorable and cult classic worthy.
Emperor Smeat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2014, 09:37 PM   #13
Nark Order
Soundly Defeated Wadding
 
Nark Order's Avatar
 
Posts: 40,590
Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Welcome to Erff
Nark Order is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2014, 10:36 PM   #14
SlickyTrickyDamon
Quark is Less Impressed.
 
SlickyTrickyDamon's Avatar
 
Posts: 38,371
SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Icanflyimpilot.
SlickyTrickyDamon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2014, 10:39 PM   #15
Droford
 
Posts: 52,478
Droford makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Droford makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Droford makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Droford makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Droford makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Droford makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Droford makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Droford makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Droford makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Droford makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Droford makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Droford makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Droford makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
its probably a classic cause they're making two unnecessary sequels without Will Smith 20 years too late
Droford is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:10 AM.

Forums Home - TPWW - Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin®