Evolution

**Marc the Smark** · 05-18-2004, 11:44 PM

Do you think Evolution should get a fifth person? And if so, who do you think it should be? I think Mark Jindrak was going to join them a while ago, but I guess that never worked out. I think they should get someone else, but I have to think about whom. Maybe Christian and Trish?

**OssMan** · 05-18-2004, 11:44 PM

They are probably going to split up soon, so no.

**Aussie Skier** · 05-18-2004, 11:46 PM

if they dont split up (which they shouldnt), they should get maven

**James Steele** · 05-18-2004, 11:56 PM

Maven as a heel...

That is exactly what he needs to do! He is only the "guy from tough enough"

He has potential, but the put him in a corner where he is still a "fresh faced rookie" and he has been around for almost 5 years!

**PureHatred** · 05-19-2004, 12:27 AM

Maven is a bust. He can't stay healthy and his ringwork is exactly the same as it was when he debuted. He has done zero to justify a push of any sort.

As for the topic: No, regardless of whther or not they break up. Evolution has a good dynamic going and adding members would screw that up. They play off each other well, and they each seem to have a nice position established. Allow the characters to develop; there are some great stories waiting to happen, a new member would interrupt that.

**The CyNick** · 05-19-2004, 12:38 AM

I kinda like the idea of them adding someone to Evolution whenever Hunter leaves to do his movie. I would have Randy and Batista bring in someone (ie Maven or Cade) and then Flair could be a little skeptical saying "hunter didn't agree to that". Randy and Batista could say they need the extra man power to stay dominant. Flair would then accept it, but still be a little skeptical. Then when Hunter comes back he could question Orton and Batista's move, but live with it (Hunter could be really hard on the new guy). And then down the road they have a tag match, where Orton and co. turn on HHH and there's your feud.

**The Show Off** · 05-19-2004, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick

I kinda like the idea of them adding someone to Evolution whenever Hunter leaves to do his movie. I would have Randy and Batista bring in someone (ie Maven or Cade) and then Flair could be a little skeptical saying "hunter didn't agree to that". Randy and Batista could say they need the extra man power to stay dominant. Flair would then accept it, but still be a little skeptical. Then when Hunter comes back he could question Orton and Batista's move, but live with it (Hunter could be really hard on the new guy). And then down the road they have a tag match, where Orton and co. turn on HHH and there's your feud.

**FourFifty** · 05-19-2004, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick

I kinda like the idea of them adding someone to Evolution whenever Hunter leaves to do his movie. I would have Randy and Batista bring in someone (ie Maven or Cade) and then Flair could be a little skeptical saying "hunter didn't agree to that". Randy and Batista could say they need the extra man power to stay dominant. Flair would then accept it, but still be a little skeptical. Then when Hunter comes back he could question Orton and Batista's move, but live with it (Hunter could be really hard on the new guy). And then down the road they have a tag match, where Orton and co. turn on HHH and there's your feud.

Good form, well put.

05-19-2004, 01:53 AM

I don't think the WWE should split the 4 some up. But if they want a new meber they should keep Flair but not have him wrestle but just mentor, why ? Becouse Flair is out of shap and hes slow and he is to old and he might give him self a heart attack shortley, and anyway we need to look on to the futcher not look back at the past. But the dumbest thing the WWE could do right now is put fricken Maven in there. The best person I could see to join is Christen & Trish.

**JeremyTB29** · 05-19-2004, 02:01 AM

I think Evolution needs a female member.Maybe Trish.

**PureHatred** · 05-19-2004, 02:10 AM

Negative. Christian and Trish are about as over at this point in their careers as the y have ever been. Christian can be a monster heel, he's got his own Team Christian thig going, and putting him in Evolution wuld make him secondary to Orton and (posibly) Batista.

Chritian needs anothe rhot feud to build on this momentum.

If you're going to do the angle CyNick suggested, use Conway .

**Shaggy** · 05-19-2004, 10:27 AM

I have always said that Maven should join up with them. I have read on his website that he wanted to be a heel. They even had a video on the website that played him as a heel. I was hoping that he would come back as a heel. I think he needs to do that and join evolution. Look what it did to Orton. It already made him a great heel person.

**Thelivinglegend** · 05-19-2004, 10:36 AM

How can you justify maven's ringwork being the same as it has been sicne being in tough enough when he has barely been given any airtime since tough enough? I saw him in a match with HHH on heat a few months back and that was his last match since and i was highly impressed with him. I could just picture Maven 'shockingly' running in to help out Evolution or something like that. I think it's unfair to judge him when he's barely been on TV.

LK · 05-19-2004, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick
I kinda like the idea of them adding someone to Evolution whenever Hunter leaves to do his movie. I would have Randy and Batista bring in someone (ie Maven or Cade) and then Flair could be a little skeptical saying "hunter didn't agree to that". Randy and Batista could say they need the extra man power to stay dominant. Flair would then accept it, but still be a little skeptical. Then when Hunter comes back he could question Orton and Batista's move, but live with it (Hunter could be really hard on the new guy). And then down the road they have a tag match, where Orton and co. turn on HHH and there's your feud.

however if there is someone new added then it shouldn't be Christian. He has the potential to become one of Raws main heels and so he should stay as he is right now and maybe even challenge Benoit to a match once Badd Blood is over. Remember his promo before the cage match with Jericho he talked about how the last thing that he needed to to was become World champion.

**Marc the Smark** · 05-19-2004, 12:02 PM

Maybe Maven.

**Nark Order** · 05-19-2004, 12:10 PM

I think Rob Conway would make a perfect addition to the team. He's got mad skill and is going absolutely nowhere while teamed with Grenier. I think a massive turn of allegiance is in order. This would let them have 4 able bodied wrestlers in the group and Flair could have more of a manager type role in Evolution. Conway/Orton/Batista/Trips would be unstoppable. It's not really adding a number to the group, just kinda replacing Flair for more fresh wrestling ability. It would work masterfully IMO.....

**thuganomicalcrippler** · 05-20-2004, 06:10 AM

Evolution is heading for a split by Survivor Series. I forsee Randy Orton going away. Then maybe they could feature in s Survivor Series Elimination match, you know, like Randy and four other faces against Evolution and two heels.

**big_bluto** · 05-20-2004, 09:11 AM

I think if they are going to add another member to Evolution, they should bring in someone totally unexpected.

A name that springs to mind is Big Show.
No-one would expect it, and it would give them some serious fire-power in the ring.
Other potential additions could be big faces, like Edge, or HBK, however I think the best addition to Evolution would be Shelton Benjamin.

I think he could pull off the cocky, arrogant heel that is required for a member of Evolution.
This would also explain why Trips was happy to put him over recently, particularly if he is gonna be part of the possee.
Once in the fold, he could then convince Orton that HHH is holding him back, and he should be the leader - hence eventual face turn by Orton, and feud with HHH.

05-20-2004, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by thuganomicalcrippler

Evolution is heading for a split by Survivor Series. I forsee Randy Orton going away. Then maybe they could feature in s Survivor Series Elimination match, you know, like Randy and four other faces against Evolution and two heels.

Randy is still going to be heel though.

**Kamchadal.** · 05-20-2004, 06:24 PM

I don't know about Randy going away. It would be hard to keep him as a heel if he does. I think that Batista would be a great chooice to turn on Evolution. Even though I do not like him very much, fans seem to love a big monster as a face. He could play on the fact that he is a huge guy that is being held down by Flair, HHH, and Orton.

**tucsonspeed6** · 05-21-2004, 02:09 PM

Why is it that there are so many people out there who think Maven is God's gift to wrestling? A bigger question is, "Are these the same people who think Orton is overrated?" Maven should be given the boot to make room for better guys working in other organizations like OVW. Then he should be shot

Wouldn't it be a huge shocker if while HHH is away making his movie HBK comes out and helps Evolution, not really joining them, but rather gaining their trust. That way, when HHH comes back and he has a big match to end the feud between the two of them he thinks he'll get some help from his buddies but they don't do anything. He'll have Bischoff make it a lumberjack match with the rest of evolution as the lumberjacks. Then when HHH throws HBK out of the ring, Orton, Batista, and Flair all just stand back and don't do anything. HHH jumps out of the ring and confronts each of them, but they just shake their heads and raise their hands saying that they want nothing to do with it. THen the three just turn around and abandon him to his fate.

**My Final Heaven** · 05-21-2004, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by deadlyheaven
I think Rob Conway would make a perfect addition to the team. He's got mad skill and is going absolutely nowhere while teamed with Grenier. I think a massive turn of allegiance is in order. This would let them have 4 able bodied wrestlers in the group and Flair could have more of a manager type role in Evolution. Conway/Orton/Batista/Trips would be unstoppable. It's not really adding a number to the group, just kinda replacing Flair for more fresh wrestling ability. It would work masterfully IMO.....

Yes, then that could give Flair a chance to pull Arn Anderson's "my spot" speech out of the closet lol

**Deceit** · 05-21-2004, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick

I kinda like the idea of them adding someone to Evolution whenever Hunter leaves to do his movie. I would have Randy and Batista bring in someone (ie Maven or Cade) and then Flair could be a little skeptical saying "hunter didn't agree to that". Randy and Batista could say they need the extra man power to stay dominant. Flair would then accept it, but still be a little skeptical. Then when Hunter comes back he could question Orton and Batista's move, but live with it (Hunter could be really hard on the new guy). And then down the road they have a tag match, where Orton and co. turn on HHH and there's your feud.

I couldn't have said it better. Someone needs to come and take Hunter's place and set up for the split. People say Shawn Michaels, but that would only lead to more HHH/Michaels matches.

Maven needs more time to be apart of one of the bigger angles in wrestling right now

**Kane Knight** · 05-21-2004, 03:41 PM

Evolution really needs to split at some point in the future. Adding a fifth person and some instability (Perhaps job security) might work, but the group needs to have its downfall or it will stagnate.

05-18-2004, 11:44 PM	#1
Marc the Smark Posts: 2,064	Evolution Do you think Evolution should get a fifth person? And if so, who do you think it should be? I think Mark Jindrak was going to join them a while ago, but I guess that never worked out. I think they should get someone else, but I have to think about whom. Maybe Christian and Trish?

05-18-2004, 11:44 PM	#2
OssMan The Classic Dylan Staples Posts: 51,458	They are probably going to split up soon, so no.

05-18-2004, 11:46 PM	#3
Aussie Skier So long, Eddie! miss you. Posts: 1,910	if they dont split up (which they shouldnt), they should get maven

05-18-2004, 11:56 PM	#4
James Steele TPWW's HHH Mark Since '04 Posts: 29,886	Maven as a heel... That is exactly what he needs to do! He is only the "guy from tough enough" He has potential, but the put him in a corner where he is still a "fresh faced rookie" and he has been around for almost 5 years!

05-19-2004, 12:27 AM	#5
PureHatred Instant Credibility Posts: 2,979	Maven is a bust. He can't stay healthy and his ringwork is exactly the same as it was when he debuted. He has done zero to justify a push of any sort. As for the topic: No, regardless of whther or not they break up. Evolution has a good dynamic going and adding members would screw that up. They play off each other well, and they each seem to have a nice position established. Allow the characters to develop; there are some great stories waiting to happen, a new member would interrupt that.

05-19-2004, 12:38 AM	#6
The CyNick Make the IWC Great Again Posts: 8,922	I kinda like the idea of them adding someone to Evolution whenever Hunter leaves to do his movie. I would have Randy and Batista bring in someone (ie Maven or Cade) and then Flair could be a little skeptical saying "hunter didn't agree to that". Randy and Batista could say they need the extra man power to stay dominant. Flair would then accept it, but still be a little skeptical. Then when Hunter comes back he could question Orton and Batista's move, but live with it (Hunter could be really hard on the new guy). And then down the road they have a tag match, where Orton and co. turn on HHH and there's your feud.

05-19-2004, 01:53 AM	#9
Edge Guest Posts: n/a	I don't think the WWE should split the 4 some up. But if they want a new meber they should keep Flair but not have him wrestle but just mentor, why ? Becouse Flair is out of shap and hes slow and he is to old and he might give him self a heart attack shortley, and anyway we need to look on to the futcher not look back at the past. But the dumbest thing the WWE could do right now is put fricken Maven in there. The best person I could see to join is Christen & Trish.

05-19-2004, 02:01 AM	#10
JeremyTB29 Posts: 242	I think Evolution needs a female member.Maybe Trish.

05-19-2004, 02:10 AM	#11
PureHatred Instant Credibility Posts: 2,979	Negative. Christian and Trish are about as over at this point in their careers as the y have ever been. Christian can be a monster heel, he's got his own Team Christian thig going, and putting him in Evolution wuld make him secondary to Orton and (posibly) Batista. Chritian needs anothe rhot feud to build on this momentum. If you're going to do the angle CyNick suggested, use Conway .

05-19-2004, 10:27 AM	#12
Shaggy Yipee Kai Yay!!! Posts: 5,705	I have always said that Maven should join up with them. I have read on his website that he wanted to be a heel. They even had a video on the website that played him as a heel. I was hoping that he would come back as a heel. I think he needs to do that and join evolution. Look what it did to Orton. It already made him a great heel person.

05-19-2004, 10:36 AM	#13
Thelivinglegend Posts: 38	How can you justify maven's ringwork being the same as it has been sicne being in tough enough when he has barely been given any airtime since tough enough? I saw him in a match with HHH on heat a few months back and that was his last match since and i was highly impressed with him. I could just picture Maven 'shockingly' running in to help out Evolution or something like that. I think it's unfair to judge him when he's barely been on TV.

05-19-2004, 11:59 AM	#14
LK It's Clobbering Time! Posts: 5,337	Quote: Originally Posted by The CyNick I kinda like the idea of them adding someone to Evolution whenever Hunter leaves to do his movie. I would have Randy and Batista bring in someone (ie Maven or Cade) and then Flair could be a little skeptical saying "hunter didn't agree to that". Randy and Batista could say they need the extra man power to stay dominant. Flair would then accept it, but still be a little skeptical. Then when Hunter comes back he could question Orton and Batista's move, but live with it (Hunter could be really hard on the new guy). And then down the road they have a tag match, where Orton and co. turn on HHH and there's your feud. however if there is someone new added then it shouldn't be Christian. He has the potential to become one of Raws main heels and so he should stay as he is right now and maybe even challenge Benoit to a match once Badd Blood is over. Remember his promo before the cage match with Jericho he talked about how the last thing that he needed to to was become World champion.

05-19-2004, 12:02 PM	#15
Marc the Smark Posts: 2,064	Maybe Maven.

05-19-2004, 12:10 PM	#16
Nark Order Soundly Defeated Wadding Posts: 40,590	I think Rob Conway would make a perfect addition to the team. He's got mad skill and is going absolutely nowhere while teamed with Grenier. I think a massive turn of allegiance is in order. This would let them have 4 able bodied wrestlers in the group and Flair could have more of a manager type role in Evolution. Conway/Orton/Batista/Trips would be unstoppable. It's not really adding a number to the group, just kinda replacing Flair for more fresh wrestling ability. It would work masterfully IMO.....

05-20-2004, 06:10 AM	#17
thuganomicalcrippler Peeps Unite Posts: 259	Evolution is heading for a split by Survivor Series. I forsee Randy Orton going away. Then maybe they could feature in s Survivor Series Elimination match, you know, like Randy and four other faces against Evolution and two heels.

05-20-2004, 09:11 AM	#18
big_bluto Triple A's a bitch Posts: 1,039	I think if they are going to add another member to Evolution, they should bring in someone totally unexpected. A name that springs to mind is Big Show. No-one would expect it, and it would give them some serious fire-power in the ring. Other potential additions could be big faces, like Edge, or HBK, however I think the best addition to Evolution would be Shelton Benjamin. I think he could pull off the cocky, arrogant heel that is required for a member of Evolution. This would also explain why Trips was happy to put him over recently, particularly if he is gonna be part of the possee. Once in the fold, he could then convince Orton that HHH is holding him back, and he should be the leader - hence eventual face turn by Orton, and feud with HHH.

05-20-2004, 06:24 PM	#20
Kamchadal. Bark is worse than Bite Posts: 283	I don't know about Randy going away. It would be hard to keep him as a heel if he does. I think that Batista would be a great chooice to turn on Evolution. Even though I do not like him very much, fans seem to love a big monster as a face. He could play on the fact that he is a huge guy that is being held down by Flair, HHH, and Orton.

05-21-2004, 02:09 PM	#21
tucsonspeed6 Banned WWE on 1/1/07 Posts: 2,141	Why is it that there are so many people out there who think Maven is God's gift to wrestling? A bigger question is, "Are these the same people who think Orton is overrated?" Maven should be given the boot to make room for better guys working in other organizations like OVW. Then he should be shot Wouldn't it be a huge shocker if while HHH is away making his movie HBK comes out and helps Evolution, not really joining them, but rather gaining their trust. That way, when HHH comes back and he has a big match to end the feud between the two of them he thinks he'll get some help from his buddies but they don't do anything. He'll have Bischoff make it a lumberjack match with the rest of evolution as the lumberjacks. Then when HHH throws HBK out of the ring, Orton, Batista, and Flair all just stand back and don't do anything. HHH jumps out of the ring and confronts each of them, but they just shake their heads and raise their hands saying that they want nothing to do with it. THen the three just turn around and abandon him to his fate.

05-21-2004, 03:41 PM	#24
Kane Knight Ron Paul 4 EVA Posts: 152,467	Evolution really needs to split at some point in the future. Adding a fifth person and some instability (Perhaps job security) might work, but the group needs to have its downfall or it will stagnate.