TPWW Forums  

Go Back   TPWW Forums > w r e s t l i n g > wrestling forum
Reload this Page Justin Roberts calls out WWE for Connor The Crusher
Register Members List

Reply
Page 1 of 3 1 23
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-03-2015, 12:28 PM   #1
slik
Trickster Demon
 
slik's Avatar
 
Posts: 59,823
slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Justin Roberts calls out WWE for Connor The Crusher
interesting read, not sure what to make of it, WWE is a business after all, but they still did something wonderful, even if they spun it slightly:

https://medium.com/@JustinRoberts/be...r-296f34743af4
slik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 12:32 PM   #2
Bad News Gertner
Best Poster
 
Bad News Gertner's Avatar
 
Posts: 57,073
Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
So stupid. I don't get what Justin Roberts is trying to accomplish
Bad News Gertner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 12:40 PM   #3
slik
Trickster Demon
 
slik's Avatar
 
Posts: 59,823
slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Yeah, I found it a very interesting read. WWE is a business, and with their recent declaration that "Philanthropy is the future of marketing", I am not surprised they took a somewhat different spin on things. That said, there is no doubt Connor touched Bryan and the entire locker room and what they did was still a wonderful thing.
slik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 01:00 PM   #4
wwe2222
 
wwe2222's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,398
wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)
It just reads like he is unhappy he wasnt a part of all the stuff they did for the kid when it was seemingly his idea.
wwe2222 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 01:23 PM   #5
KIRA
Celestia's Left Hand
 
KIRA's Avatar
 
Posts: 17,359
KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Is the WWE still a soulless corporate machine whose only interest in philanthropy is less human and more good publicity? Oh yea. I like to believe most people can see through their attempts to paint themselves as a caring organization that said what they did for Conner was still good Wonderful infact. I can only imagine that Conner was on cloud 9 during the time he was hanging with WWE.
KIRA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 01:33 PM   #6
Nark Order
Soundly Defeated Wadding
 
Nark Order's Avatar
 
Posts: 40,590
Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Nark Order makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Who cares if it benefits them? What they have done for Connor and his family is admirable. They made that kid's life incredible right before he ended up passing. That is worth something. No matter what their original intentions were, they did a wonderful thing.

Also. For every Connor story there is like 100 WWE Make - A - Wish stories that don't get mainstream exposure
Nark Order is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 02:05 PM   #7
Bad News Gertner
Best Poster
 
Bad News Gertner's Avatar
 
Posts: 57,073
Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Bad News Gertner makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
I swear, the WWE could find the cure for AIDS, and people would bitch that they didn't cure cancer as well.
Bad News Gertner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 02:06 PM   #8
slik
Trickster Demon
 
slik's Avatar
 
Posts: 59,823
slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
It really just comes across like he's upset he didn't get more credit for it. True charity isn't about taking credit.
slik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 02:07 PM   #9
SlickyTrickyDamon
Quark is Less Impressed.
 
SlickyTrickyDamon's Avatar
 
Posts: 38,371
SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
The overall part that matters to me about what he said is WWE perverting The Ultimate Warrior's pretty much dying request. He requested an award based on celebrating the "lifers" of the WWE.
SlickyTrickyDamon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 02:19 PM   #10
Ruien
MVP Mark
 
Posts: 16,451
Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
It is slightly funny they changed his speech so it fit with the new award.
Ruien is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 02:27 PM   #11
slik
Trickster Demon
 
slik's Avatar
 
Posts: 59,823
slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
WWE can pervert whatever the hell they please in my book.
slik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 02:37 PM   #12
Jazzy Foot
 
Jazzy Foot's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,216
Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)
Dana Warrior didn't seem to have an issue with it and even if WWE technically twisted Warrior's words etc. she seems ok with the situation and if not would have already said something or the award wouldn't have gone to Connor in the first place.


Also the award was created not out of his words/request but WWE wishing to honour the legacy of Ultimate Warrior but it was perhaps a bad move on their part to quote his HoF speech in the video package for the award as now they have people pointing fingers at them and making accusations.
Jazzy Foot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 02:58 PM   #13
Jordan
It's a blood match!
 
Jordan's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,385
Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
I don't know exactly why Justin Roberts was released but I wouldn't be surprised if the Connor story had something to do with it. "Let's get rid of him so that he doesn't have to be a central focus of the Award Ceremony at HOF". WWE does bullshit things all of the time, and while I don't know the facts here, I wouldn't doubt that there is a bunch of bullshit involved in Justin Roberts release.

I too was touched by the story they told and it seemed great for everyone involved and also they have a charity to help cure cancer, it's great. But there is also the negative that WWE twisted Warrior's LAST REQUEST to honor the people who "hang the lights", and instead honor kids who fought a brave battle with the dark side of life.

It's a tough thing to argue, WWE is obviously doing good here, but the release of Justin Roberts and cutting him out of the story (which obviously never would have happened if it weren't for Justin Roberts) is total bullshit.

Also, Justin Roberts is the best ring announcer WWE ever had, I don't know what the fuck they fired him for anyway.
Jordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 03:00 PM   #14
Jordan
It's a blood match!
 
Jordan's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,385
Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Vince McMahon is a piece of shit. I think that's what you can basically get from this article, and the majority of articles written about him by former employees.
Jordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 03:04 PM   #15
Vastardikai
Taller than Adam Cole
 
Vastardikai's Avatar
 
Posts: 10,876
Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Justin Roberts? I thought he was part of the road crew.

Seriously, I agree with him on what he had to say, especially about taking care of the guys who are currently there.
Vastardikai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 03:05 PM   #16
Evil Vito
President of Freedonia
 
Evil Vito's Avatar
 
Posts: 58,383
Evil Vito makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Evil Vito makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Evil Vito makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Evil Vito makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Evil Vito makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Evil Vito makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Evil Vito makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Evil Vito makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Evil Vito makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Evil Vito makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Evil Vito makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Evil Vito makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Evil Vito makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
I posted this in 100,000 replies yesterday and felt it was a really interesting read.

There isn't any doubt that WWE did an incredible thing with Connor last year. It was so heartwarming that they were able to let him go out with a smile. Nobody is questioning that their intentions for that were pure. To say otherwise would be pretty idiotic since he seemed to touch the heart of every superstar on the roster that he met. And as mentioned earlier in the thread they do a lot of great work with Make-A-Wish and other such foundations.

That being said...if they had gone forward with Warrior's suggestion from last year's HOF, we'd have a 30 minute induction speech from one of the "unsung heroes" from backstage. No offense to those people but the average fan who goes to the HOF ceremony is not going to care about hearing from them. With Connor however there is a story that most WWE fans are already familiar with and beyond that, it would tug on the heartstrings of pretty much anyone even if they don't care about wrestling.

All told I don't think WWE exploited Connor with this, as again it's clear as day that everybody loved him. They simply chose to go with a story that would be more appealing to the masses and would generate positive publicity. It's hard to villify WWE for that when I'm pretty sure any corporation in America would have done the same thing.

As far as Roberts is concerned, I really don't get the vibe that he's a bitter ex-employee. In every interview I've heard with him he's had nothing but great things to say about his time there and he's said he'd be happy to go back if asked. It just seems he had a closer connection to Connor than most, talking with him every week, etc. I was surprised when Connor's dad mentioned Roberts in his speech, but after reading this story it makes more sense. Connor seemed to have an impact on Roberts so it's understandable why this is a sensitive issue for him.

I agree with Gertner though in the sense that I don't know what Roberts was trying to accomplish by bringing this up. It's understandable for him to have this viewpoint but bringing it up is only going to get him blackballed.
Evil Vito is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 03:14 PM   #17
Jordan
It's a blood match!
 
Jordan's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,385
Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
I didn't remember Conner's Dad mention Justin, but I'm glad he did.
Jordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 03:14 PM   #18
Jordan
It's a blood match!
 
Jordan's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,385
Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
And yeah now Justin Roberts is never gonna come back. I miss that fucking voice.
Jordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 03:17 PM   #19
Jazzy Foot
 
Jazzy Foot's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,216
Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)
As I said before and nobody seems to be addressing if this was such an issue surely Dana Warrior would have been the first to object to the award as I am sure WWE probably sought her permission before commissioning an award in the name of her dead husband?

Reserve criticism for her and not Roberts or WWE.
Jazzy Foot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 03:18 PM   #20
Jordan
It's a blood match!
 
Jordan's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,385
Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
They are probably paying her some decent money.
Jordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 03:18 PM   #21
Jordan
It's a blood match!
 
Jordan's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,385
Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
But it is a better idea than Warrior's idea, not gonna argue that.
Jordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 03:21 PM   #22
Nicky Fives
b/c 5 is better than 4
 
Nicky Fives's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,721
Nicky Fives got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nicky Fives got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nicky Fives got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nicky Fives got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nicky Fives got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nicky Fives got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nicky Fives got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nicky Fives got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nicky Fives got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nicky Fives got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nicky Fives got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nicky Fives got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by slik View Post
It really just comes across like he's upset he didn't get more credit for it. True charity isn't about taking credit.
Exactly. Hard for HHH & Stephanie to know how hard it was for him to watch that video every night when he never said anything to them about it.....HHH is a lot of things, but a mind reader he is not....
Nicky Fives is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 03:23 PM   #23
Jordan
It's a blood match!
 
Jordan's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,385
Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
I think he was talking about Vince or that cock sucker Kevin Dunn.
Jordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 03:28 PM   #24
SlickyTrickyDamon
Quark is Less Impressed.
 
SlickyTrickyDamon's Avatar
 
Posts: 38,371
SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazzy Foot View Post
As I said before and nobody seems to be addressing if this was such an issue surely Dana Warrior would have been the first to object to the award as I am sure WWE probably sought her permission before commissioning an award in the name of her dead husband?

Reserve criticism for her and not Roberts or WWE.
Fuck no. We're not going to criticize a mother with two children for saying yes to this. WWE did so much for her in the days after Warriors passing which she talked about in her speech. You are a no good son of a bitch.
SlickyTrickyDamon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 03:30 PM   #25
SlickyTrickyDamon
Quark is Less Impressed.
 
SlickyTrickyDamon's Avatar
 
Posts: 38,371
SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
This should be a one-time thing or very rare that people don't expect it every single year.
SlickyTrickyDamon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 03:32 PM   #26
Jordan
It's a blood match!
 
Jordan's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,385
Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
That's true, otherwise we will all roll our eyes when its time to tear up at the HOF Ceremony.
Jordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 03:33 PM   #27
Jordan
It's a blood match!
 
Jordan's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,385
Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Maybe next year they will give it to a long tenured employee, and then next year maybe somebody who runs a charity etc...
Jordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 06:28 PM   #28
Emperor Smeat
Former TPWW Royalty
 
Emperor Smeat's Avatar
 
Posts: 66,676
Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Emperor Smeat makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
WWE sent out an official response to Roberts story/allegations. Basically claimed they never had any devious intentions with the way they honored Connor and Warrior at the Hall of Fame this year.

Also clarified a bit about the Warrior award.

Quote:
Originally Posted by WWE
“It is offensive to suggest that WWE and its executives had anything but altruistic intentions in honoring Connor and his legacy with The Warrior Award. In conjunction with Connor’s father, Connor’s Cure was established by Stephanie McMahon and Paul Levesque to raise awareness and funds for pediatric cancer, and to honor a boy that so many people within the WWE family came to love. The fund is managed by the Children’s Hospital of Pittsburgh Foundation and has already raised more than $200,000 for pediatric cancer research.

In addition, following the Ultimate Warrior’s impassioned Hall of Fame speech last year encouraging WWE to recognize its unsung heroes, the Warrior Award was established in his memory to honor those who exhibit unwavering strength and perseverance, and who live life with the courage and compassion that embodies the indomitable spirit of the Ultimate Warrior. With the full support and input of Ultimate Warrior’s widow, Dana Warrior, Connor Michalek was the first recipient of the Warrior Award, and moving forward the award will be given annually to acknowledge other unsung heroes among WWE’s employees and fans.

WWE is proud to use our global platforms to raise awareness for important social causes, including Connor’s Cure as well as our longstanding partnership with Make A Wish, our on-going partnership with Susan G. Komen, which has resulted in more than $1.5 million in funds raised, and our international partnership with Special Olympics.”
Emperor Smeat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 06:41 PM   #29
Jazzy Foot
 
Jazzy Foot's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,216
Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon View Post
Fuck no. We're not going to criticize a mother with two children for saying yes to this. WWE did so much for her in the days after Warriors passing which she talked about in her speech. You are a no good son of a bitch.
hehe if you say so whoooooooooooo
Jazzy Foot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 06:42 PM   #30
Jazzy Foot
 
Jazzy Foot's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,216
Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Jazzy Foot has a good deal of rep (10,000+)
if Tazz Dan doesn't win next year we should riot.
Jazzy Foot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 07:39 PM   #31
Mr. Nerfect
 
Posts: 61,634
Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Chris Jericho to induct Tazz Dan next year.
Mr. Nerfect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 07:48 PM   #32
Mr. Nerfect
 
Posts: 61,634
Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
I'm of two minds about this.

This obviously matters to Justin Roberts, who by all accounts is a pretty nice guy who loved wrestling and just being there. You might ask "What is he trying to accomplish?" but if you think about it, he saw the story of a sick boy he was trying to make happy, in his mind, twisted and exploited to promote the company and different figures within it. Something like that can be a hill to die on. Reading what he said, he comes off as very articulate, but maybe his point does come off as "I should have gotten more credit." I don't think so. I got more of a "I get that this is a company that cares about making money, but this got a bit too real for me." I find it odd that he has pictures of all these moments with Connor saved up ready for a blog, but it seems that his relationship with Connor was legitimate, and he just had to say something.

Roberts doesn't paint anyone as a monster -- save for maybe his "boss," who tells him to hurry things up -- but the whole thing came off to me like a "Hey, I get that companies do this all the time, but I never really thought about it until it happened to me and someone I cared about" blog. If there's anything to take from it, maybe the lesson is to think about what you are being told, and consider the possibility that elements of this story have been twisted and changed to tell a better one? I don't think the WWE is evil for what it did, but I do expect them to want to benefit from it. There's that element to every bit of charity they partake in. So many people are like that with charity even if they aren't a massive corporation. I don't think Roberts is telling anyone anything they don't already know on this front, but I'm not sure if he is trying to.

The WWE's response itself seems hot-headed and premature. "It is offensive..." Right, guys.
Mr. Nerfect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 08:30 PM   #33
Jordan
It's a blood match!
 
Jordan's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,385
Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
That one of the best responses to criticism I've read from WWE.
Jordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 08:34 PM   #34
Mr. Nerfect
 
Posts: 61,634
Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
I dunno, seems kind of moot at points. And while I don't expect a company to admit they do things for publicity, even just in part, it seems a bit silly to deny it as even a possibility in a general sense. I don't know what I expected the WWE to say, but I don't think they really even needed to say anything.
Mr. Nerfect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 08:38 PM   #35
Jordan
It's a blood match!
 
Jordan's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,385
Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
I'm glad to know that they intend to put in the light hangers and the grips in the future, and Connor was a great first recipient because of all the inspiration he filled WWE with.
Jordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 08:45 PM   #36
Mr. Nerfect
 
Posts: 61,634
Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
I have no problem with Connor getting an award, for the record. And I don't think that was the point of Justin's blog either. But I do wonder if the WWE intended to give long-standing employees some attention or if this has come up solely because of Roberts? I mean, maybe the company didn't even think past Connor with this?
Mr. Nerfect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 08:45 PM   #37
Mr. Nerfect
 
Posts: 61,634
Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Jim Johnston for the Hall of Fame, by the way.
Mr. Nerfect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 08:46 PM   #38
Jordan
It's a blood match!
 
Jordan's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,385
Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Oh helllllll yeah!
Jordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 08:46 PM   #39
Jordan
It's a blood match!
 
Jordan's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,385
Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noid View Post
I have no problem with Connor getting an award, for the record. And I don't think that was the point of Justin's blog either. But I do wonder if the WWE intended to give long-standing employees some attention or if this has come up solely because of Roberts? I mean, maybe the company didn't even think past Connor with this?
I'm thinking that they did plan past year one and didn't feel the need to or have a reason to articulate that until now.
Jordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 08:52 PM   #40
Theo Dious
EATER OF HOT POCKETS
 
Theo Dious's Avatar
 
Posts: 14,340
Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)
Here's the bottom line. WWE was handed something and they made something amazing out of it. I'm pretty sure WWE knows better than Justin Roberts how to turn an idea on publicity and moneymaking ideas - and in this case it's for the best cause imaginable. Of course they took care to make themselves look good in the process - nobody raises money for charity if they look like a shithead.

Roberts needs to shut up about this because he can do some real damage to the charity efforts that come about here. Don't give me any "ends justify the means" crap here; nobody is being robbed, injured, or defrauded here. If Roberts wants to write his blog about his memories of Connor - up to and including pointing out that he was the one who first plucked him out of the crowd - good on him. Tell your story, by all means. But shut up about this "shame on WWE" shit he's trying to so gently slide in there.
Theo Dious is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 1 of 3 1 23

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:53 PM.

Forums Home - TPWW - Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin®