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Old 03-29-2016, 01:41 PM   #1
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someone explain expresses to me
What was the appeal here?

We're the guys from rock and roll express ever in good shape,or did they ever look hip? Even at the time their look was fairly whack. The trailer park mullets never great in or what? And the girls screaming in the little jcp Soundstage.....were these dudes considered attractive? Any homosexual please feel free to give insight


The midnight.... Bobby Eaton has to be one of the ugliest humans ever and was never in condition either.

Did anyone really vibe with these guys over the much better quality wwf tag teams of the time?
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Old 03-29-2016, 02:00 PM   #2
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It was a time where most wrestlers were ugly slobs.

And look at the southern hick crowds they played to....They looked exactly the same.

Of course they thought the guys were cool.
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Old 03-29-2016, 02:01 PM   #3
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It was a time where most wrestlers were ugly slobs.

And look at the southern hick crowds they played to....They looked exactly the same.

Of course they thought the guys were cool.
Hillbilly pretty boys basically.
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Old 03-29-2016, 02:00 PM   #4
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Alls I know is that the Orient Express was better than either of them.
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Alls I know is that the Orient Express was better than either of them.
That's not remotely true. Especially the Midnights, and I love Diamond and Tanaka.
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Old 03-29-2016, 04:49 PM   #6
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The Rock and Rolls, especially Morton got more chicks than almost anyone in the history of wrestling. Top three are Morton, Flair and Tommy Rich.

Robert Gibson was one cross eyed ugly mother fucker.
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Old 03-29-2016, 04:53 PM   #7
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And who are these vastly superior WWF teams? The Bulldogs were blah post 1986. The only WWF team between 85-87 that measures up were the Hart Foundation.
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Old 03-29-2016, 04:57 PM   #8
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US Express was the best express tag team. Barry Windham and Mike Rotundo bc USA #1
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Can-Am express sucked bc of America's Hat ruining that team.
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Old 03-29-2016, 05:23 PM   #10
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I totally share this sentiment. I think in the case of The Midnight Express, they were ironic with their names and look. Rock 'n Roll Express... they were supposed to look like The Rocker's and to people who didn't know better they did. White trash dream boats. Do not underestimate he ignorance of southern pro wrestling fans.
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Old 03-29-2016, 05:27 PM   #11
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I think this is also and example of why WWF was always number one. They wouldn't push guys that look like that, even if the work rate is compromised. You can flip through the channel and see Ricky Morton or Robert Gibson and instantly be like "eh, pass"... Where if you flip through and see Shawn Michaels or Mart Janetty, or Barbarian, Warlord, Haku, Andre, Bossman, Akeem, Bret and Anvil with their interesting pink tights and different (but top level athletic) body types. You see a body like WWE produces and you might stop a little longer, because it's unique and interesting. A lot of NWA guys look like your plumber or mechanic. Maybe your high school gym teacher.
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Gertner dropping some knowledge bombs.
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Most (and by most I mean all) Southern wrasslin is unwatchable IMO. I have no idea how people who grew up on something other than WWE ever got into it.
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Most (and by most I mean all) Southern wrasslin is unwatchable IMO. I have no idea how people who grew up on something other than WWE ever got into it.
Lol I'll bite. Describe southern wrestling
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Lol I'll bite. Describe southern wrestling
Hmmm. Shitty production. Guys with average guy in the local gym type bodies. Old guys. Mullets. Small arenas that appear to have no risers. Jim Cornette. Blood. Small packages as finishes. Dark. Sweaty. Skinny mics. Cheap looking gear. Sound stages.
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Hmmm. Shitty production. Guys with average guy in the local gym type bodies. Old guys. Mullets. Small arenas that appear to have no risers. Jim Cornette. Blood. Small packages as finishes. Dark. Sweaty. Skinny mics. Cheap looking gear. Sound stages.
You do not talk shit about mullets, son.
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Hmmm. Shitty production. Guys with average guy in the local gym type bodies. Old guys. Mullets. Small arenas that appear to have no risers. Jim Cornette. Blood. Small packages as finishes. Dark. Sweaty. Skinny mics. Cheap looking gear. Sound stages.
You do realize that the WWF were wrestling in high school gyms, Knights of Columbus's etc... during the 80's right? With lots of old wrestlers and shitty production.
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Midnights vs Fantastics/Rock and Rolls were pretty fun
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I like the Money Pit. That is my response to that.
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I like the Money Pit. That is my response to that.
Midnights drew more money than any Tag Team in the 80's
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I'd like to hear your sources on that. If it didn't come from Vince or Hunter...
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Midnights drew more money than any Tag Team in the 80's
Drawing on top in front of 800 people isn't the same as being 3rd from the top in front of 12k a night.

I'm not going to get into this because you will cite shit from the Observer, and I know that's not a factual publication.
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Drawing on top in front of 800 people isn't the same as being 3rd from the top in front of 12k a night.

I'm not going to get into this because you will cite shit from the Observer, and I know that's not a factual publication.
How about actual attendance figures? Dude, you don't know a thing about how wrestling was in the 80's. This is going to be fun.
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WWF tag teams never wrestled on top. Ever. The Midnights did pretty much from 84-87 in multiple places.(Mid South and Crockett). They were literally one step below Ric Flair.
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If they were so good, why didn't Vince sign them? And why did southern wrestling go out of business? Maybe it's just that they weren't good enough to make money on such a big stage? True talent rises to the top.
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If they were so good, why didn't Vince sign them? And why did southern wrestling go out of business? Maybe it's just that they weren't good enough to make money on such a big stage? True talent rises to the top.
1. The Midnights actually met with Vince in the 80's but turned him down

2. WWF in the 80's was a big man territory, especially then.

3. They did draw on a big stage. Multiple stadium shows in Crocket/Mid-South. They weren't second on the card champs like teams in the WWF either.

Lol and I WAY prefer 80's WWF over WCW.
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1. The Midnights actually met with Vince in the 80's but turned him down

2. WWF in the 80's was a big man territory, especially then.

3. They did draw on a big stage. Multiple stadium shows in Crocket/Mid-South. They weren't second on the card champs like teams in the WWF either.

Lol and I WAY prefer 80's WWF over WCW.
1. Do you have Vince's word on that?

2. Too big for the biggest stars? Riiiight.

3. Were the stadiums full? You can probably credit that to the Hulk Hogan boom radiating down.

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1. Do you have Vince's word on that?

2. Too big for the biggest stars? Riiiight.

3. Were the stadiums full? You can probably credit that to the Hulk Hogan boom radiating down.

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That's where the famous dolls story comes from. Corny and the Express met with Vince to see what they were offering and what the plans for the team were, who they were feuding with. Vince's reply was "you're going to have dolls!".
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That's where the famous dolls story comes from. Corny and the Express met with Vince to see what they were offering and what the plans for the team were, who they were feuding with. Vince's reply was "you're going to have dolls!".
But you just have Cornette's word on that.
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1. The Midnights actually met with Vince in the 80's but turned him down

2. WWF in the 80's was a big man territory, especially then.

3. They did draw on a big stage. Multiple stadium shows in Crocket/Mid-South. They weren't second on the card champs like teams in the WWF either.

Lol and I WAY prefer 80's WWF over WCW.
How many stadium shows and what were the gates? You don't know, I don't know. Let's just say all these companies went out of business, so clearly these teams didn't do that well.
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How many stadium shows and what were the gates? You don't know, I don't know. Let's just say all these companies went out of business, so clearly these teams didn't do that well.
Oh my friend, you bit off more than you can chew. I'll get you have attendance figures when I get home from work with gates.
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I don't want to misrepresent CyNick's points here, but I feel that'd be about right.
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You know what, I would put the Road Warriors ahead.of the Midnights/RnR's in terms of drawing power in the 80's
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Sitting here, I actually don't know how many years the Road Warriors were on top. Also, just how long were the Midnight Express and Rock 'n' Roll going at it? Road Warriors seem instantly bigger, but Midnight Express and RnR is like still going at indy shows, isn't it?
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Haha I know Gibson and Morton still wrestle. I don't know about Eaton. He's had a lot of health issues. Lane definitely doesn't.
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Haha I know Gibson and Morton still wrestle. I don't know about Eaton. He's had a lot of health issues. Lane definitely doesn't.
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