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Old 05-24-2004, 09:35 PM   #1
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What makes Flair 'the man'?
In your opinion, what makes/made "The Nature Boy" Ric Flair so dominant, and why is he still the man today?

Is it his many (many) title wins?
His heel heat?
The awesome feuds?
The longevity of his career? Or maybe the fact that he's still around today?

Or to you, is it something else? I wanted to post this thread because, to me and to many others, Flair is one of the most influential wrestlers of all time and could never be forgetten.

...Or is it his floppy old man boobies?
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Old 05-24-2004, 09:39 PM   #2
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His man tits definately.



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Old 05-24-2004, 09:42 PM   #3
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Old 05-24-2004, 09:42 PM   #4
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It's two decades plus of being able to put on incredible matches whether the opponent was an extraordinary worker (Steamboat, Savage) a straight up brawler (Rhodes, Funk) or a steaming pile of crap (Luger, Garvin).

It's the fact that Ric Flair wasn't a big, buff guy with a great look but through his ringwork, his charisma, and his mic skills he still made himself one of the biggest names in the history of the business.

If there was a Mt. Rushmore of Wrestling, Ric Flair would be on it.

PS...it's a predetermined sport. Titles are meaningless unless asa relative measure of who is the most marketable at any given time.
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Old 05-24-2004, 09:43 PM   #5
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It's two decades plus of being able to put on incredible matches whether the opponent was an extraordinary worker (Steamboat, Savage) a straight up brawler (Rhodes, Funk) or a steaming pile of crap (Luger, Garvin).

It's the fact that Ric Flair wasn't a big, buff guy with a great look but through his ringwork, his charisma, and his mic skills he still made himself one of the biggest names in the history of the business.

If there was a Mt. Rushmore of Wrestling, Ric Flair would be on it.

PS...it's a predetermined sport. Titles are meaningless unless asa relative measure of who is the most marketable at any given time.
That couldn't have been said any better. TY for that post lol.
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Old 05-24-2004, 09:46 PM   #6
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Old 05-24-2004, 09:51 PM   #7
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Old 05-24-2004, 09:54 PM   #8
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Flair should of left the ring a long time ago.
His charisma is wrong for this day and age as well.
Not many people can understand and old guy who talks erratically and has a lisp.
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Old 05-24-2004, 11:11 PM   #9
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PS...it's a predetermined sport. Titles are meaningless unless asa relative measure of who is the most marketable at any given time.
I wouldn't call them entirely meaningless, what you have to look at is the fact that through Flairs' many reigns, the fans continued to flock to him. Ability to draw as a champion isn't a predetermined factor, and the fact that the majority of Flair's runs were successes (or at least not total duds) is indicative of something. Ask yourself: when has Flair ever really dropped the ball?
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Old 05-24-2004, 11:49 PM   #10
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It's everything he does.

Too bad he doesn't even speak on the mic anymore.
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Old 05-25-2004, 12:35 AM   #11
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Old 05-25-2004, 12:51 AM   #12
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I wouldn't call them entirely meaningless, what you have to look at is the fact that through Flairs' many reigns, the fans continued to flock to him. Ability to draw as a champion isn't a predetermined factor, and the fact that the majority of Flair's runs were successes (or at least not total duds) is indicative of something. Ask yourself: when has Flair ever really dropped the ball?
Did you read what I wrote? They are meaningles except as a means of measuring who is marketable; i.e. drawing power. Thanks for vigorously agreeing with me.
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Old 05-25-2004, 03:19 AM   #13
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Flair dropped the ball against Edge tonight. Man, that match sucked.
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Old 05-25-2004, 05:06 AM   #14
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The fact that the man is a 16 time World Champ. And the eye pokes, low blows, chop blocks, and the slaps on the cheast. And at the age of 60 something he still became a 2 time wwe World Tag Team Champion along with Batista. And the WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! bottom line is there is no man in the history in the wwe like this man.
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Old 05-25-2004, 05:20 AM   #15
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bottom line is there is no man in the history in the wwe like this man.
The same could be said for Kevin Nash - There's nobody in the world that is that height and injures himself so frequently!

The same could be said for Hardcore Holly - There's nobody in the world that is so crap at matches, and I would gladly shove wasps up my arse if it meant that he would retire from TV and never return.
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Old 05-25-2004, 05:31 PM   #16
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It weird, but I could watch Ric Flair after all these years and still be entertain.
I don't know what it is , but he's just so cool...wait I said that wrong he's
Ric Flair WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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Old 05-25-2004, 06:47 PM   #17
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The way he goes absolutlety nuts when he is managing someone like Randy Orton at ringside. Sweating freakin bullets, screaming, jumping around... Die everytime i see it...

and of course..

the WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Old 05-25-2004, 07:09 PM   #18
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Old 05-25-2004, 07:27 PM   #20
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Old 05-25-2004, 07:29 PM   #21
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I probably should have put up a poll, to see all the collective votes for the WOOOOOO.

Anybody know where the WOOOOO originated?
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Old 06-13-2004, 01:22 AM   #23
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Notice how Kurt Angle use to do the WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO from time to time?
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Old 06-13-2004, 01:27 AM   #24
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Old 06-13-2004, 01:44 AM   #25
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The guy is so popular that even C(not so)Bright strutted like Flair when he was accepting his prom king victory. I miss CBright though, and I hope he comes back soon.

Anyways, it is Flair's promo/interview skills that make him so great. It is his ability to make his opponents look good, while carrying a 5 star match. Flair even carried the ball for a dying WCW, and did a tremendous job doing so. During the Monday Night Wars, WCW would put Flair on just before Raw went on the air. What makes Flair great is that when you think his career is buried, it seems as though he doesn't lose any of his popularity (i.e nWo angle). Flair can wrestle better than 75% of the WWE's current roster (guesstimate), and still puts on quality matches, even at his old age. If Evolution was just HHH, Orton, and Bastista, the group would not be the same. Flair just adds so much dynamic to that group, and not only by his presence, but by what he is still able to do best...talk. And lets not forget a particular Raw episode of last year. Flair challenging HHH for the title. The entire show was built around that match, and what happened? Flair cut a terrific promo before the match, and the match itself was nothing short of spectacular (for a stale HHH that had previously buried all of his possible feuds with RVD, Booker T, Kane, etc.) For that one night, wrestling fans were marking out, because they did believe that Flair could possibly win the title from HHH that night. This is all an attributed to Flair, who always seems to make his opponents look good, and there is no one who can do it better.
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Old 06-13-2004, 01:55 AM   #26
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Flair can wrestle better than 75% of the WWE's current roster (guesstimate), and still puts on quality matches, even at his old age.
I think you are definitely underestimating much of the WWE roster. Many guys with wrestling skills don't even get a chance to shine or are not used properly (Sean O' Haire, Ultimo Dragon, Paul London, etc.), so we don't get to see how they would perform. Flair is definitely a ring tactician, and sells moves as great as anyone, but he has definitely lost a step in the ring. His timing has deteriorated with age, and he hesitates a lot before performing a move.

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If Evolution was just HHH, Orton, and Bastista, the group would not be the same. Flair just adds so much dynamic to that group, and not only by his presence, but by what he is still able to do best...talk.
I will agree with this. The main reason why he is in Evolution is to use his mic skills to put over Randy Orton and Batista, and since the group is called Evolution, Flair is one of the biggest legends ever with 16 world title runs, so he is the past 'evolution' of the sport.

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And lets not forget a particular Raw episode of last year. Flair challenging HHH for the title. The entire show was built around that match, and what happened? Flair cut a terrific promo before the match, and the match itself was nothing short of spectacular (for a stale HHH that had previously buried all of his possible feuds with RVD, Booker T, Kane, etc.) For that one night, wrestling fans were marking out, because they did believe that Flair could possibly win the title from HHH that night. This is all an attributed to Flair, who always seems to make his opponents look good, and there is no one who can do it better.
Yeah I was definitely marking out, his promos are unbelievable, and seeing him with the title again would have been an awesome way for him to go out.
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^^Mayo^^...Pertaining to the 75%, I was just praising Flair to a great extent, so of course I didn't mean he was actually better than 75% of the current roster.
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Old 06-13-2004, 08:34 AM   #28
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One of the more intereseting things about Flair was that the Original Nature Boy Buddy Rodger was happy that Flair was the one using the Nature Boy name and gave him permission. Now if a legend like Buddy Rogers respects you then you are the man.
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Old 06-13-2004, 08:41 AM   #29
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The reasons I like Ric Flair are as follows:

When Evolution do promo's, he always looks like the man, when he just stands their smiling, I don't even look at whoevers talking, I just look at Flair because he acts like the man.

He does funny things like the stupid fall over he does once a match when people punch him.

I didn't watch WCW but I heard he was the man at getting heel heat there. Him and Bischoff are my two favourite heels.
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Old 06-13-2004, 09:24 AM   #30
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The Flair Flop!
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Old 06-14-2004, 03:47 PM   #31
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Ric Flair is the man because of the great matches that he has put on, his ability to recieve such intense heel heat and of course the legendary catchphrase and the strut.

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Old 06-14-2004, 04:03 PM   #32
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Yes Flair is the man, BUT LEARN TO TAKE A BACK BODY DROP!

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Old 06-14-2004, 04:09 PM   #33
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Awsome all around wrestler...and..........


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