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Old 06-14-2004, 01:41 AM   #1
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Your Thoughts On Bad Blood?

What were your thoughts on tonights Bad Blood ppv? Did you enjoy it? Did it go the way you thought it would?
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:01 AM   #2
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I enjoyed it, but thought it was too predicible.

I knew all the outcomes before the show even started.

The only one I wasn't 100% sure on was the Woman's Title. I thought Lita MIGHT win it.
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:04 AM   #3
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A little disappointing but good enough to watch.
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:05 AM   #4
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Since i basically got a full PBP by RK, I'd say crap on a stick.
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:09 AM   #5
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I didn't think it was that bad of a PPV. I think it was stupid that the Lita/Kane angle did not progress, since they had Hardy there kissing Lita and such. Overall, I would say it was 3.5/5 star PPV.

Edge/Benoit vs. La Resistance wasn't bad as well, but nothing special. Edge's reversal of the flapjack into a double neckbreaker looked nice. Kane interference was unexpected for me, I thought that Edge would cost Benoit the match (or vice versa).

The Orton/Benjamin match was great, and I really liked Orton on the mic before the match. He acted somewhat like The Rock does, taking the cameraman with him to the ring. He looked at that hot girl at ringside for a second, that was funny shit. He almost fell on the rope at the end of his promo, which was kinda funny. Fast paced match, great modified neckbreaker by Orton, and I loved it when Flair was in a figure four and Benjamin almost pinned Orton at the same time.

Tomko and Jericho wasn't bad. Tomko has a few decent moves, hes still green, but I think with some improvement, he can be a pretty good wrestler. His tattoos are quite freakish, and with lots of mic work, he may have a future as a heel. I expected Tomko to win this, but didn't happen that way.

Eugene totally made the match fun to watch, and his wrestling ability shone through with many of his moves. Can't wait to see him if he ever wrestles without being 'funny'.

I was not expecting Trish to win the women's 4-way match, she was my absolute last pick. I was thinking that Victoria would retain, or Gail Kim would win it. A decent match, seeing as how 2 years ago, I would take a piss break during a women's match.

The Kane/Benoit match wasn't as bad as I had expected, although the pace was pretty slow which was expected. I liked the fact that Kane no selled the crossfaces, so he still remains somewhat of a monster, and he did dominate Benoit for much of the match. I was expecting possible interference from Lita, with something to do with her angle with Kane, but nothing happened.

The HIAC match lived up to its expectations. It was a total brawl, with lots of blood. Another slow paced match, with some noticable bumps, and it took 3 pedigrees to beat HBK.
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:09 AM   #6
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It was decent Kinda mad that they didnt start some kind of heat between Edge and Benoit. The HIAC was a little slow and no one made it to the out side of the cage which I think has happened everytime there has been a HIAC match.. Granted I dont think HBK could take a fall from the top and HHH sure as hell wasnt about to be thrown off...Benoit/Kane dint keep my attention Benoit needs a good solid feud with some one of equal skill..Jericho is a good idea for a feud. Maybe Edge will pan out maybe theyll go back to HHH. Time will tell.
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:20 AM   #7
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Fair enough. I knew Eugene was going to win his match with Coach, I thought Victoria would retain ( I keept on thinking it was still Gail Kim vs Victoria, I forgot it was a fatle four way, but still evan if I did rember it was that sort of match my bet would have been on Victoria) I knew Orton would win his match, I knew Y2J would win since "Crushed Lower Back" has still got his back problems and would be away, I thought Benoit and Edge would have won but I had a feeling La Res were going to get there ass's DQed somehow, I knew Benoit would beat Kane, and I knew HHH would win HIAC. So now I have to wait befor the ppv comes out at the video shop.
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Old 06-14-2004, 03:00 AM   #8
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I think Tomko is a very impressive big man. I was looking forwrd to him squashing Jericho, and using the ribs to keep Jericho's credibility up. Tomko got some huge "Wows!" from the crowd. Great effort by both men in that match.

Does anyone else find that sometimes Benjamin puts on 5 star matches that gets the crowd on their toes, and other times he just puts on four star matches that get pops? I really liked BB's Orton/Benjamin match, and both guys are going somewhere fast.

Kane/Benoit was awesome, as was the main event. La Resistance impressed me again, and Trish winning the title was a shocker.
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Old 06-14-2004, 03:01 AM   #9
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For me the eugene match made the ppv worthwhile, most of the other matches were pretty predictable.
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Old 06-14-2004, 03:23 AM   #10
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They built up the PPV all around HHH/HBK, so the rest was an afterthought in terms of hype. The result was basically that.

I did worse on my predictions than I'd like tho.
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Old 06-14-2004, 03:36 AM   #11
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I enjoyed it, but thought it was too predicible.

I knew all the outcomes before the show even started.

The only one I wasn't 100% sure on was the Woman's Title. I thought Lita MIGHT win it.
You knew Orton/SB?
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Old 06-14-2004, 03:36 AM   #12
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For me the eugene match made the ppv worthwhile, most of the other matches were pretty predictable.
You actually thought Coach would beat Eugene?
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Old 06-14-2004, 03:51 AM   #13
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Randy Orton beating Shelton Benjamin was wonderful.

Eugene....well, Eugene is Eugene, and that is wonderful.

Trish Stratus winning was a little odd, but nothing I'm gonna blow a gasket about.

Victoria not dancing, but stripping, was wonderful.

Tyson Tomko is wond...

I'm getting carried away here.

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Old 06-14-2004, 05:13 AM   #14
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For me the eugene match made the ppv worthwhile, most of the other matches were pretty predictable.
I gotta agree. Eugene/Coach was definitely the most entertaining match. Coach did a good job at looking like a goofball again. He must have hit the ropes 6 times before he even realized Eugene had left the ring. Plus seeing Eugene use the Rock Bottom special as his finisher was cool as well.
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Old 06-14-2004, 06:43 AM   #15
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Old 06-14-2004, 03:56 PM   #16
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Tomko has some potential. He didn't botch anything horribly like other big men so thats good

Eugene =

If Victoria keeps up the stripping gimmick, I won't be that angry about it

Besides, Benoit wrestled twice, can't get much better than that
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Old 06-14-2004, 08:12 PM   #17
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I thought Tomko was horrible if I'm honest. Show was ok I guess. Eugene is so far beyond funny that I think I'll never get bored of this gimmick. Benoit was awesome as usually and probably gave Kane the best match of his career. Orton ain't The Rock so stop pushing him in that direction. He and Shelton had a good match but it was the perfect time to put the belt on Shelton. The rest was pretty average. Michaels and HHH would have been better without the Cell and if it was 47 minutes shorter. It dragged for too long and people didn't get anything special so what's the point in having the cage. I lost count of the amount of times they threw each other to the outside and the selling was way over done. In saying that, Shawn Michaels is still the shit. I'm starting to wonder if he ever had a back injury. Him selling that back early in the match was phenomenal.
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I fell asleep, woke up when Eugene was wrestling, then fell asleep again after the match finished. Glad I did now.
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Old 06-14-2004, 08:27 PM   #20
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I thought it was a good PPV myself, though to predicteble. I knew Kane would interfere in the tag title match because there was no way benoit and edge would win the tag titles back that quickly.La resistance were impressive once again, this tag team match seemed to have something different to it, i dunno what though, maybe Chris Benoit?
Eugene was funny as fuck, had me laughing all the way through, and finally coach's undefeated streak at PPV's is over!
Tomko was impressive i thought, i was expecting him to botch every move after what i heard about the house show match with jericho, but it turned into a pretty decent match with a weird but different ending.
Orton/Benjamin had the right result i think, i reckon the right time to put the belt on benjamin is at summerslam. And i agree with rob that Orton was acting too much like the rock it was embarressingly obvious, it was funny when he looked at that woman though lol. Good match overall though Orton botched the pin when he couldn't grab hold of Benjamin properly.
Benoit/kane was a good match but boring start, Kane nearly so easily f-ucked it up but Benoit carried the match from then on and turned it into one of the best matches of Kane's career.
The HBK/HHH match was nothing new, but was still good, but i knew HHH would win, totally the wrong result,but i guess HHH always has to win.
Oh yeah and the womens match was pretty decent i guess.
SO overall good PPV but too predicteble.
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Old 06-14-2004, 08:43 PM   #21
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Despite Thuglife speaking, I think everything about Bad Blood was good.

Even Tomko vs. Jericho was good. Tomko is pretty impressive. He's not great, but he's not bad.

HBK vs. HHH lived up to it's expectations as a classic match. Long, but classic.

Orton vs. Benjamin was fantastic. Both guys delivered. I considered it to be the match of the night.

Thuglife, Benoit did NOT carry Kane through that match. If you knew your ass from your elbow, you'd know a good match when you saw one. Judging by your lack of paragraphs, sentences, and proper understanding of the world around you, I'm not surprised by what you said. I didn't like how Benoit won with a cradle, but I didn't see any other way to put Kane down. Both men looked good after that fight. Credibility has been restored to Kane (finally), and maybe we can see more Kane title shots.


If anybody has the thing taped, before the Randy vs. Shelton match when Randy still had his shirt on and was walking away with the belt, people started a 'Randy' chant. Cool stuff.


Anybody got any good ideas for HBK after Bad Blood? He's taking time off, but what do you think will happen with him now? I'd say put him on Smackdown so the rivalry can NEVER start again...but that's me.
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Old 06-14-2004, 08:48 PM   #22
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Erm wildcat, im not saying Kane didn't have a part to play in that match,im just saying Benoit made the match better than it would've been,and what are you talking about my lack of paragraphs? Do you even know what a paragraph is?Because if you knew, you would see i have paragraphs there you dumb shit.
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Hint; A paragraph isn't where you leave a gap beneath another sentence.

Like this for example.
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Those aren't paragraphs, that is more of a run-on sentence with alot of commas.

It takes at least two to make a match. You didn't say Benoit made the match better than it would've been, you said Benoit carried the match. There's a difference. Eddie vs. JBL, THAT was a carry. Benoit vs. Kane was a extemely solid and entertaining match. The problem with you is that you just repeat what you hear. You don't know what a carried match is, or a botched move.

However, if you'd like to present HOW Kane "ruined" that match, then say so. Just saying "dur kane suxs0rz benoti iz teh man!!1" makes you looks stupid.
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I do know what carried and botched means, botched means when they screw something up, duh, and carried is when the one guy is total shit and the other makes the match look better than it would've,so shut the f-uck up about i dunno what they mean.And besides, i think 'carried' was the wrong word looking back on it, i think my biasedness about Benoit got in the way(ill have to admit that there) but what i meant was Kane nearly f-ucked it up at first cos i was almost falling asleep, but then Benoit made him pick the match up i think, but thats just my view.
And this is what i count as paragraphs in my book, it's not that hard to read when it's spaced out like this surely?
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It was a good show. Not great, but good. The title match was exciting and really had me into it, the ending with the crossface-rollup was very well done, as was the Benoit interview afterwards (what was that about anyways, were they doing a final check on the cell structure?) Orton/Benjamin was a great match that got both guys over and probably the highlight of the night. The women's match wasn't bad,t I don't see any logic in giving Trish the title right now but oh well. The HIAC match was a great spotfest but the last five minutes were just... I think constipated would be the best word. But even JR and King were more on their games than usual, and there wasn't a particularly bad performance to be found. Now I'm just looking forwards to a few Kliq-free weeks so we can remember that Benoit is actually champion.
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I do know what carried and botched means, botched means when they screw something up, duh, and carried is when the one guy is total shit and the other makes the match look better than it would've,so shut the f-uck up about i dunno what they mean.And besides, i think 'carried' was the wrong word looking back on it, i think my biasedness about Benoit got in the way(ill have to admit that there) but what i meant was Kane nearly f-ucked it up at first cos i was almost falling asleep, but then Benoit made him pick the match up i think, but thats just my view.
And this is what i count as paragraphs in my book, it's not that hard to read when it's spaced out like this surely?
Actually, it is pretty hard. Paragraphs are usually denoted by more than just a full stop, because it's too hard to denote between paragraphs if they end too close to the right side of the page.

That's why you usually see paragraphs denoted with an indent (By hitting "tab" or 5 spaces). However, in most internet functions, that's not an option. People tend to break up paragraphs with multiple strokes of "return" between them.
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Actually, it is pretty hard. Paragraphs are usually denoted by more than just a full stop, because it's too hard to denote between paragraphs if they end too close to the right side of the page.

That's why you usually see paragraphs denoted with an indent (By hitting "tab" or 5 spaces). However, in most internet functions, that's not an option. People tend to break up paragraphs with multiple strokes of "return" between them.
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I was hoping for The ring and cell to collapse, taking both of them with it.
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Old 06-14-2004, 10:31 PM   #31
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I was hoping for The ring and cell to collapse, taking both of them with it.
same here.
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Old 06-15-2004, 09:07 AM   #32
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Actually, it is pretty hard. Paragraphs are usually denoted by more than just a full stop, because it's too hard to denote between paragraphs if they end too close to the right side of the page.

That's why you usually see paragraphs denoted with an indent (By hitting "tab" or 5 spaces). However, in most internet functions, that's not an option. People tend to break up paragraphs with multiple strokes of "return" between them.

I'll take note of that in future.
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Old 06-15-2004, 10:01 AM   #33
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Bad Blood:

First off, what was with the crowd?
Loads of RANDY chants and even a Triple H chant during the HIAC Main Event?
Weird!

Anyway, overall I thought the whole PPV was alright. Not brilliant and not crap. Okay.

I liked Tomko - I was really impressed with this guy.
Quite a large range of moves for a big hoss. It was good that he didn't rely on punches, kicks and growls, but actually pulled quite a few good moves out of the bag during this match. Yet to see what he's like on the mic, but I'm sufficiently impressed with what I've seen that I'm declaring myself an official Tomko Mark. I just hope he doesn't get 'Matt-Morgan-ed'.

Solid match from Jericho, and this was one of the three top matches of the night for me.

Eugene - pure gold! This was the match that stole the show.
I really hope that they keep Eugene around for a while and give him a massive unbeaten streak, so that at some point, he's beaten everyone on the roster, and can legitamitely challenge for the title.
The match with Coach was excellent, hilarious, and vastly entertaining.
The ending had me crying with laughter with the Rock Bottom, People's Elbow and then two Stone Cold Stunners!
Pure Gold!

Randy Orton v Shelton Benjamin
From start to finish I thought this was solid. Entertaining and creative match with Randy Orton actually impressing me on the mic beforehand! That's a first!
I loved when he stumbled on the ropes, and I creased up laughing when he sold the 'T-shirt shot to the face' from Benjamin!
The match itself was good, steady and nicely varied.
I felt disappointed that they let Flair interfere in the match as it would have been great to see Orton do this on his own, however the figure-four on Flair, and the roll-up on Orton at the same time was fantastic stuff.
I'm glad that Orton won this (did I just say that?) and I'm glad that he didn't use the RKO, even if he did have to pull the shorts to win.
(did anyone else think Orton botched the roll-up?)

HHH v HBK
2 words: Piss Boring!

This match went on forever. I actually nodded off for 5 minutes in the middle of it, went for a fag, and when I came back, nothing had really changed!
(then I watched the video of what I had missed afterwards)
This match started off well, and went downhill from there, I'm sad to say.


Kane/Benoit
Good solid match from both men. Kane managed to keep his credibility and still job clean, Benoit managed to look like the technical grappler that he is.
Good on both of these men! Absolutely solid match, that should have been the main event from the start!


Bad Blood was a bit of a strange PPV for me, as I felt that the mid-card outshone the last 2 matches.
It highlighted how stale the HHH v HBK feud has gotten, and how much potential RAW has on it's rosters.
Hopefully see them build on this at the next one.
Looking forward to seeing RAW to see what they come up with......

and lastly, MATT HARDY MADE IT ONTO A PPV!
they need to use this guy!
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Old 06-15-2004, 10:11 AM   #34
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(did anyone else think Orton botched the roll-up?)

Exactly what i said, yet i get told i don't know what that word means so what the f-uck do i know huh?
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Old 06-15-2004, 10:16 AM   #35
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It was squint.
I don't reckon that both of Benjamins shoulders could have been on the mat, and the only way Orton could try and recover from the 'squintness' was by trying to lift and straighten Shelton's ass.
Otherwise when he tried to pull the tights, he'd have turned him around in circles.
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Old 06-15-2004, 10:26 AM   #36
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He should've used the ropes instead or something, i've always thought pulling the tights was kinda gay.
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Old 06-15-2004, 10:29 AM   #37
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He should've used the ropes instead or something, i've always thought pulling the tights was kinda gay.
The guy has spent an awful lot of time around HHH remember.......
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Old 06-15-2004, 10:32 AM   #38
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^Lmao...too true.
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Old 06-15-2004, 05:38 PM   #39
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I think maybe the way Orton pulled the tights was to signify how tired he was supposed to be..
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I was a little dissapointed with HIAC because I thought one of them would take a big bump. I didn't particularly enjoy the PPV to be honest. The most enjoyable match for me was Eugene vs Coach, nothing else was that special.
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