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Old 06-15-2004, 08:10 PM   #1
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Triple H still drawing?
OK Basically I think HHH is by far the best Heel on RAW he still has Mic skills and is very entertaining (this past RAW's Highlight reel showed that) He can definatly still draw heat WHICH IS IMPORTANT FOR A HEEL!! I beleive a lot of people didnt order the PPV for Benoit vs. Kane but for The Hell In A Cell.




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Old 06-15-2004, 08:16 PM   #4
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He hasn't drawn really since 2000. Of course lots of people order the PPV for the HIAC, it got build up. . Others ordered it because they order every PPV. What's your point? Doesn't indicate that HHH is draw, if Benoit was in the HIAC would you then claim Benoit was a draw? If anything the draw in the HIAC was well the HIAC itself.
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Yeah. Triple H is still the man.

And is still a safe Wrestler...Ive been arguing with "Lara Emily" Who does not beleive that the wrestlers feel safe in the ring with HHH. Even though Kurt said it plain and clear when he had neck problems that he would feel safer and more comfortable in the ring with a expereinced HHH. If you have the Wrestlemania XX dvd you know what Im talking about or if you saw Mania of Wrestlemania
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He hasn't drawn really since 2000. Of course lots of people order the PPV for the HIAC, it got build up. . Others ordered it because they order every PPV. What's your point? Doesn't indicate that HHH is draw, if Benoit was in the HIAC would you then claim Benoit was a draw? If anything the draw in the HIAC was well the HIAC itself.

No HHH never lost a Hell in A Cell thats what made the Match even better. Benoit and Kane in the Hell in a cell still wouldnt have drawn as much as the HBK/ HHH match. Benoit is a great wrestler but come on matching him with Kane? Two complete differnt styles? HHH can cut a promo a lot better than Benoit HHH can draw more from the crowd (like I said HHH is the Best Heel right now on RAW)
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And is still a safe Wrestler...Ive been arguing with "Lara Emily" Who does not beleive that the wrestlers feel safe in the ring with HHH. Even though Kurt said it plain and clear when he had neck problems that he would feel safer and more comfortable in the ring with a expereinced HHH. If you have the Wrestlemania XX dvd you know what Im talking about or if you saw Mania of Wrestlemania
Whether he is safe in the ring (I do recall him giving Angle a conccussion once but maybe that was the table's fault) or not is irrelvant to the question on whether he's still entertaining and drawing a crowd. LOL why my name in quotations?
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Old 06-15-2004, 08:23 PM   #9
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I don't mind Trips at all when he's with Evolution. When he's just by himself he can be rather boring. I like the Evolution Stable and they entertain me. Trips si still a good heel, but I can't wait for Orton to turn on his ass. That's top ten all-time wrestling moments for me right there if it happens.
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Lara, Joey...you two better start playing nice or you're going to be on time out.

I think Triple H catches a lot of flak, perhaps rightfully so, because of his backstage pull and how many times he's screwed other people over for his own game. I believe it's hard to appreciate when he does good work because of those reasons, however I still believe that he actually DOES do good work sometimes. I'll agree with Joey with him being the best heel on Raw.
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Old 06-15-2004, 08:27 PM   #11
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No HHH never lost a Hell in A Cell thats what made the Match even better. Benoit and Kane in the Hell in a cell still wouldnt have drawn as much as the HBK/ HHH match. Benoit is a great wrestler but come on matching him with Kane? Two complete differnt styles? HHH can cut a promo a lot better than Benoit HHH can draw more from the crowd (like I said HHH is the Best Heel right now on RAW)
Well he did lose one, the fact that he wasn't pinned is irrelevant. That and really I don't see how that was the selling point, if anything that hinted at who was going to win . Benoit hasn't been given a chance to draw that my whole point. Watch the standing ovation he got after his RR 03 match with Angle, and tell me Benoit doesn't draw from the crowd.
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Old 06-15-2004, 08:29 PM   #13
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Lara, Joey...you two better start playing nice or you're going to be on time out.

I think Triple H catches a lot of flak, perhaps rightfully so, because of his backstage pull and how many times he's screwed other people over for his own game. I believe it's hard to appreciate when he does good work because of those reasons, however I still believe that he actually DOES do good work sometimes. I'll agree with Joey with him being the best heel on Raw.
He's basically the only heel whose name isn't Kane who gets any quality airtime .
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Well he did lose one, the fact that he wasn't pinned is irrelevant. That and really I don't see how that was the selling point, if anything that hinted at who was going to win . Benoit hasn't been given a chance to draw that my whole point. Look at after RR 03, and tell me Benoit doesn't draw from the crowd.

Sure that was great that a new Number 1 contender was crowned. Wrestlemania XX got huge pops that a new Champion was crowned. But now 3 months later He's Stale, Benoit isnt entertaining anymore and people enjoy his wrestling but he doesnt have a character that gets cheered anymore. When you think of next week RAW what comes to your head? Not Benoit but...Triple H and Eugene. Just like Bad Blood wasnt about Kane and Benoit it was about HBK and HHH.
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Sure that was great that a new Number 1 contender was crowned. Wrestlemania XX got huge pops that a new Champion was crowned. But now 3 months later He's Stale, Benoit isnt entertaining anymore and people enjoy his wrestling but he doesnt have a character that gets cheered anymore. When you think of next week RAW what comes to your head? Not Benoit but...Triple H and Eugene. Just like Bad Blood wasnt about Kane and Benoit it was about HBK and HHH.
Hello, it's called build up. Benoit isn't getting any because they are as per usual giving it all to Triple H, that's been my point all along, they haven't given Benoit a chance to do anything because he continually plays second fiddle to HHH.
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Hello, it's called build up. Benoit isn't gettign any because they are as per usualy giving it all to Triple H, that's been my point all along, they haven't given Benoit a chance to do anything because he continually plays second fiddle to HHH.

And why do you think that is?
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And why do you think that is?

LOl wait so your entire arugment is that HHH draws because he gets more TV time than anyone else?
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LOl wait so your entire arugment is that HHH draws because he gets more TV time than anyone else?
It sounds like his argument is that HHH gets more TV time because he's better than everyone else. Or something like that.
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It sounds like his argument is that HHH gets more TV time because he's better than everyone else. Or something like that.

close...The Argument is HHH gets more t.v. time because he is a better draw.
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HHH is NOT a big draw anymore, thats fact.

However, he's not much worse than any of the other main event guys they have, and he's seen as the last star from the boom period so he gets the benefit of the doubt. But if you look at business, he's been on top since 2002, and business has only went down under his leadership. So any claims of him being a draw in the current landscape are just plain false.
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close...The Argument is HHH gets more t.v. time because he is a better draw.
Which is tantamount to saying he's the better draw because he's the better draw. It's circular. It also ignores the fact that HHH never gives anyone else a chance to draw, the fact that he is married to Stephanie McMahon cannot be ignored, not to mention that he is known to have pull, so really just saying he's the better draw because he's on TV more, is not that great of an argument.
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HHH is NOT a big draw anymore, thats fact.

However, he's not much worse than any of the other main event guys they have, and he's seen as the last star from the boom period so he gets the benefit of the doubt. But if you look at business, he's been on top since 2002, and business has only went down under his leadership. So any claims of him being a draw in the current landscape are just plain false.



I agree that no one is really drawing right now, of course no one else is really being given a chance either.
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Which is tantamount to saying he's the better draw because he's the better draw. It's circular. It also ignores the fact that HHH never gives anyone else a chance to draw, the fact that he is married to Stephanie McMahon cannot be ignored, not to mention that he is known to have pull, so really just saying he's the better draw because he's on TV more, is not that great of an argument.

HHH has given many superstars a chance a lot of low card wrestlers have main evented because of Triple H. Who says he has pull? Last I saw that was still just internet gossip. No solid facts have been shown that HHH has pull. HHH does have creative control as well as most of the vetern wrestlers. Bret Hart even had control over his character.
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HHH has given many superstars a chance a lot of low card wrestlers have main evented because of Triple H. Who says he has pull? Last I saw that was still just internet gossip. No solid facts have been shown that HHH has pull. HHH does have creative control as well as most of the vetern wrestlers. Bret Hart even had control over his character.
Many? Do you mean Taka, Jeff Hardy,the Brooklyn Brawler and Shelton?


So you are you claiming he as the same amount of pull backstage as say Edge or Benoit?
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A lot? Do you mean Taka, Jeff Hardy,the Brooklyn Brawler and Shelton?


So you are you claiming he as the same amount of pull backstage as say Edge or Benoit?


You forgot He feuded with Hurricane as well


Read it again Im saying there is no solid proof that he has any pull. Stop rewording what i say.
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You forgot He feuded with Hurricane as well


Read it again Im saying there is no solid proof that he has any pull. Stop rewording what i say.
Yes which is the same thing as saying he pretty much as the same pull as Edge or Benoit, that being none (that's what I was getting at). Small feuds with mid carders who will never be maineventers isn't really giving anyone a chance. Or are you going to tell me all these guys then just failed to run with the ball?
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Yes which is the same thing as saying he pretty much as the same pull as Edge or Benoit, that being none (that's what I was getting at). Small feuds with mid carders who will never be maineventers isn't really giving anyone a chance. Or are you going to tell me all these guys then just failed to run with the ball?

If you read my Hurricane thread I posted erlier youll see my opionon on why he failed/is failing...Taka left,Jeff Hardy left,Brooklyn Brawler is a jober and Shelton is Doing really well since his HHH push I dont see how you can even argue that.
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If you read my Hurricane thread I posted erlier youll see my opionon on why he failed/is failing...Taka left,Jeff Hardy left,Brooklyn Brawler is a jober and Shelton is Doing really well since his HHH push I dont see how you can even argue that.
Jeff left way after his mini fued with Triple H (You do remember he won then got killed the next week, hardly what I call putting someone over), Taka I believe also left way after. Shelton is doign fine I admit, that's about the only guy that's a decent example.

I'll be honest I don't remember Hurricane feuding with Triple H, I remember him feuding with The Rock though, but that's probably just my memory on this particular situation.
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HHH has given many superstars a chance a lot of low card wrestlers have main evented because of Triple H. Who says he has pull? Last I saw that was still just internet gossip. No solid facts have been shown that HHH has pull. HHH does have creative control as well as most of the vetern wrestlers. Bret Hart even had control over his character.
To try and pretend that Triple H doesn't have backstage pull is stupid, and only makes your arguments look more weak, and makes you look even more ignorant.

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close...The Argument is HHH gets more t.v. time because he is a better draw.
Right. Does that also work for Hulk Hogan (Who doesn't draw shit these days)?
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To try and pretend that Triple H doesn't have backstage pull is stupid, and only makes your arguments look more weak, and makes you look even more ignorant.

Why don't you stick with what you're good at and post some pictures.

coming from someone who has yet to make a decent Ill ignore your ignorance and inform you to read the post closer...It states

"Who says he has pull? Last I saw that was still just internet gossip. No solid facts have been shown that HHH has pull. HHH does have creative control as well as most of the vetern wrestlers. Bret Hart even had control over his character."

If you need it explained to you just ask.
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Right. Does that also work for Hulk Hogan (Who doesn't draw shit these days)?


That may be why Hogan wont be back.
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Its not really about the titles, Im more about the character. I do agree he shouldnt have the title for awhile and by awhile I mean at least until Wrestlemania 21.
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To answer the question, yes and no.

Yes, he does draw, possibly more than anybody else on Raw right now, but that's to be expected with the amount of airtime and hyping up he gets.

He definatly doesn't draw what he should be drawing given these factors.

Although I must admit, I have enjoyed Triple H a lot again since Wrestlemania. The whole Evolution thing gives him somewhat of a new niche I think.
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