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Old 06-28-2004, 06:38 PM   #1
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Tell me a wrestler who deserves a push....
and I'll tell you why they shouldn't get one.
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Old 06-28-2004, 06:45 PM   #2
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I think God should get a Push.
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Old 06-28-2004, 06:46 PM   #3
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I quite honestly think Al Snow, Val Venis, Funaki and Paul London all deserve pushes.
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Old 06-28-2004, 06:49 PM   #4
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Old 06-28-2004, 06:51 PM   #5
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I quite honestly think Al Snow, Val Venis, Funaki and Paul London all deserve pushes.
Al Snow - He's past it now, he done an alright job hosting tough enough, but he doesn't even have a wrestling contract. No wrestling, no push!

Val Venis - old gimmick, nothing exciting about this guy anymore, couldn't even create a laugh getting chicks for Lance Storm, and plain sucked as Chief Morley!

Funaki - I'm sure the translation of this is Ultimate Jobber! He's been buried too many times over and over, to ever be considered as anything more than comedy and squash material.

Paul London - his knees are already knackered, he's too small, and Vince doesn't like Cruiserweights. Plus he has no apparent character, and in comparison to Mysterio, Noble and Chavo, is in no way deserving of a push.
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Old 06-28-2004, 06:52 PM   #6
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Old 06-28-2004, 06:55 PM   #7
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Paul London, RVD, Rene Dupree.
Paul London - see above

RVD - he came from RAW as a midcard wrestler, occasional Tag title holder, etc.
Suddenly he moves to Smackdown. He has to be maintained at that level because otherwise it will be immediately apparent that RAW > Smackdown, and WWE will try to avoid that whereever possible. Plus he has a limited moveset, and apparently Bob Holly is more popular than him.

Rene Dupree - too green, has a poodle, can't beat John Cena, is annoying on a microphone, and his robe looks like a Ric Flair Cast-off. His 'French Tickler' is utterly dumbass, and he's too young to have paid any sort of dues, or gained any real experience.
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Old 06-28-2004, 06:58 PM   #8
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Jericho, Hurricane and Dave 'Mercy' Youell
Jericho - had his opportunity and blew it when he was undisputed champion by being too small in stature against The Rock, Austin, Angle, HHH, etc. Not believable as champion, and has jobbed more times than Goldbird since then. Will never get a push until Stephanie divorces HHH, Jericho marries her, Vince and Shane die in a bizarre JBL/Hardcore Holly match botch.

Hurricane - will never get pushed as long as he has a SHIT hanging off his ass.

Dave 'Mercy' Youell - will never get pushed as long as King Jericho keeps beating his ass.
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Old 06-28-2004, 06:59 PM   #10
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Dave 'Mercy' Youell - will never get pushed as long as King Jericho keeps beating his ass.
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Old 06-28-2004, 07:03 PM   #11
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Funaki, billy gunn, RVD, rey mysterio, chavo guererro
Funaki - see above

Billy Gunn - King of the crap gimmick. 'The One', 'The Assman', and now he's too old and getting associated with Hardcore Holly. This man will never get a main event push unless Chyna returns and looks Feminine. And Talented. Plus his 'Famouser' doesn't make anyone famous.

RVD - see above

Rey Mysterio - too small, can't really talk well, has to wear a mask because he's an ugly little fucker, and he is an anti-hoss. Explanation: Soon Vince will hate him / release him / put him in a match with bob Holly and injure him.

Chavo - will never get another push because he had to get Daddy to help with the last one, and Daddy got the bullet. every single push he's had has been with the help of his dad, or his uncle Eddie. Incapable of making it on his own, and also likes his burritos too much.
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Old 06-28-2004, 07:05 PM   #12
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Old 06-28-2004, 07:06 PM   #13
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Plus his 'Famouser' doesn't make anyone famous.
Thats because it was a FameASSER, I declare you have a crap argument and Billy Gunn does indeed deserve a push.
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Old 06-28-2004, 07:12 PM   #14
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Booker T, Garrison Cade, Johnny Nitro, Chris Benoit
Booker T - too old, been beat too many times for it to be believable, and can only utter catchphrases that have been repeated at least 600 times. Back problems and he's also boring as hell. Finishing move of a scissorkick? No chance!

Garrison Cade - green, boring, haven't seen a single entertaining thing from this guy. Has to have an adjacent mouth (T Long) because he can't handle a microphone and has been fed to Eugene and others. At best a mid-card jobber.

Johhny Nitro - Greener than grass. No Tough Enough winner has ever gotten a serious push, and he's gonna be fairly well back down the queue if it ever happens, plus his matches have all been jobbed to others. No credibility, experience, or following.

Chris Benoit - can't talk, looks goofy, bandy, has been around for 18 years, and that's him finally getting a main event push. When he loses the title he should go back to the mid card where he belongs, and stay there, with the occasional foray into fourway events for the IC/US Titles. No more push for the 'Crippler' who hasn't crippled anyone.
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Old 06-28-2004, 07:12 PM   #15
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Old 06-28-2004, 07:16 PM   #17
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I LIKE THE UNDERTAKER, HE MAY BE OLDER BUT IS VERY POPULAR EVEN TODAY
The UnderTaker - Lord of undecided gimmick. Is he the american bad-ass, is he the deadman, is he the texas ranger? who knows. He is old, carrying injuries, and shouldn't be pushed as he is already established as a main event wrestler, because pushing Taker would be destroying much needed credibility for other wrestlers. He doesn't need a push, he's over and will be until he retires, and until then he should concentrate on helping the pushes of others, as that's what made him as popular as he is. Besides all that, he IS too old.
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Old 06-28-2004, 07:16 PM   #18
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Also I think Dirtyunderweartaker should get a push, well not really but it gives Bluto a chance to slate him so we'll stick with it.
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Old 06-28-2004, 07:16 PM   #19
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Old 06-28-2004, 07:20 PM   #20
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Also I think Dirtyunderweartaker should get a push, well not really but it gives Bluto a chance to slate him so we'll stick with it.
Dirtyunderweartaker - this guy should stick to what he is good at, whatever it is.
Be it starting premature celebration threads that run into 10 pages and stick around for ever, or for the now infamous CAPS TYPING.
However, he should never get a main event push, and as co-leader of the Jobber World Order, I deem him to be a jobber, unworthy of admitance into a club for jobbers.
And he should continue to type with his caps lock on, I think it's charming, and reminds me of all those twats that turn up here from time to time to explain patiently to us all that wrestling is gay, usually in paragraphs of 450 words or more.
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Old 06-28-2004, 07:22 PM   #21
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lmao archive this thread its goign to be classic, I will stop spamming it up now.


Vader deserves a push.
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Old 06-28-2004, 07:24 PM   #22
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Vader deserves a push.
Vader doesn't deserve a push because he is on no show that I watch. therefore I deem him to be unworthy. Plus his name reeks of 'Star Wars Rip-off' and he should be de-pushed for lack of originality.
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Old 06-28-2004, 07:27 PM   #24
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why not eugene? he's a hell of a wrestler!
Eugene - He's a terrific entertainer, is able to steal others moves in a witty, entertaining fashion and seems to be a solid wrestler. However, Eugene is a short-term gimmick which will not last. The WWE creative team will run out of ideas, he's been pushed directly into the pool of main eventers, and he is only comedy value as a novelty, and us fickle fans will get bored of him quickly.
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Old 06-28-2004, 07:32 PM   #25
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Old 06-28-2004, 07:37 PM   #26
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Triple H - In times gone by he deserved a push, and received it to the max. However now that he is working in a managerial capacity, carrying injuries, and has dominated the main event scene on RAW for nearly 2 years now, it is time for the pushes to be give elsewhere, in order to ensure continuity for the business. Now HHH looks older, slower and less able to pull off a top notch match than he did 3 or 4 years ago. If he continues to wrestle for another 3 or 4 years, he will be a shadow of his former self, and will be doing nothing for the business, which has done plenty for him. In addition to this he doesn't need another push, as he is already at the main event level. He should be concentrating on putting over other wrestlers.
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Torrie Wilson - Smackdown's queen of eye candy. The only logical reason I could come up with for Torrie Wilson to get a push was when Big Show ended up chokeslamming Angle off the stand and breaking his leg. Pity it wasn't Torrie. She takes up valuable TV time sucking lollipops and showing off bikini's when we tune in to see a wrestling show. She's talentless, she can't wrestle, and even her playboy picks were airbrushed to hell! She's crap on a mic, can't dance, can't look sexy and doesn't even have the courtesy to 'accidentally' get her tits out on a regular basis. Doesn't even deserve a contract, let alone a push!
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Kenzo Suzuki - while he may be a big name in Japan, he hasn't become aclimatised to the American style of wrestling, nor does he have a sufficient grasp of the language to understand what is being called to him from his armpit during a match. In addition, there are too many wrestlers being given pushes on Smackdown, and as a result there is already a shortage of jobbers, squashees, etc, so Kenzo should follow the time honoured tradition of joining WWe as a cruiserweight, getting reduced to Velocity after 4-6 weeks and then disappearing off our screens for 4 weeks prior to the announcement that he has been sent off to OVW for developmental training, after which he will never appear again on WWE TV. Plus he looks crap so far.
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Old 06-28-2004, 07:55 PM   #33
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Old 06-28-2004, 07:56 PM   #34
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Rodney Mack - Is a hoss that Vince likes, but he's been injured so many times that no fan will buy into him long term. he sucks on the mic, his wrestling style is based on 'I'm stronger than you' and his delivery of it is pants. No real skill, no charisma, no appeal for the fans, and no interest. Should be fed to jobbers.
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Old 06-28-2004, 08:05 PM   #36
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For you Mr Funky, I'll do my best.....

Ultimo Dragon - it would be easy to bring up the slip at WM20 as a reason, but in reality the writing was on the wall for his release/hiatus for long before that. He was promo'd for ages, he had one or two matches on Smackdown and within 6 weeks he was barely appearing on Velocity. It looked like we had Sean O'Haire v2 on our hands, anothe example of shocking booking. However, Ultimo did get the chance of a few matches and unfortunately never pulled anything startling out of the bag, while Mysterio was doing all kinds of fun stuff on Smackdown, so Ultimo was off to a losing start from day one.
While us internet fans all like, respect and worship Ultimo Dragon there are a lot of fans out there who only know what WWe have shown of him and their opinion is that he couldn't cut it.
Now the only way around this would be if he came back with another gimmick, wasn't called ultimo dragon, and got a push then.
But then......he wouldn't be Ultimo Dragon!
Either that or he could do himself a favour and learn his lesson and stay away from WWE.
Either way, no push for Ultimo Dragon.
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Kane - been badly handled for ages now, and regardless of how many more main event spots he gets, he has no credibility. He nearly got some when he took the mask off and had the feud with Shane McMahon, but as usual Shane stole his thunder. Kane will forever be the big red jobbing monster and as such should continue in the role he has, because he cannot hold the title with any degree of credibility, plus his moveset is basic, and he often looks clumsy. For evidence, watch No Way Out when he dropped Regal on his head.
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Old 06-28-2004, 08:17 PM   #39
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Randy Orton - this guy doesn't deserve a push. He is lacklustre on the microphone, he can act a bit, but not much, his finishing move is lamer than a bag full of broken horses, and he struts around thinking he's a bigger gay icon than Batista. He thinkd Flair is still the man, and besides all that, he's not ready for the main event, and needs great wrestlers to carry his matches for him.
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