Doom 3 goes gold, but does anyone still care?

[Bricktop]

Today it was announced that Doom 3 is basically finished, baring any patch work. The game has been in development for almost 5 years, but the question is, is this game going to live up to the hype? In the time it has taken for Doom 3 to come out many other games have stolen the FPS market, namely Far Cry, UT2004, Battle Field and a few others. Will doom live up to the hype and take its spot as the king of FPS again? Discuss.

[Nowhere Man]

I kind of doubt it will be able to live up to itself now. Sure, the graphics will be incredible, but id games aren't exactly renowned for fabulous gameplay. That, and Half-Life 2 is probably coming out around the same time, and if it has the impact on the FPS world as the first one, it'll be one to remember. If I had a PC that could run the ungodly specs needed for DooM 3 to work, I'd buy it, but I think it'll end up getting left in the dust of Half-Life 2 and Halo 2 (unfortunately).

"does anyone still care?"

LOL

Definitely buying it.

[DS]

Yeah, I'm going to get it. Half-Life 2 will be alright but since it was pushed back just as far the only thing it will really have going for it is, possibly, the graphics. The physics are nothing that hasn't been done (Psi-Ops), gameplay won't be anything spectacular (UT2k4), really all it has going for it is the name of Half-Life. Not saying it won't be a good game, but it wouldn't have hurt if they didn't freak out so much about the code being leaked and just went ahead.

Doom 3 is going to be good though. Going to put in my watercooling so I can overclock and run it on top notch graphics

[Kapoutman]

I remember playing the first one while still being in elementary school.

[Bricktop]

I played the alpha 2 build demo, lets hope its come a long way from that build, because it wasn't anything special that hasn't been done by games like far cry.

[Buzzkill]

Originally Posted by DS Yeah, I'm going to get it. Half-Life 2 will be alright but since it was pushed back just as far the only thing it will really have going for it is, possibly, the graphics. The physics are nothing that hasn't been done (Psi-Ops), gameplay won't be anything spectacular (UT2k4), really all it has going for it is the name of Half-Life. Not saying it won't be a good game, but it wouldn't have hurt if they didn't freak out so much about the code being leaked and just went ahead. Doom 3 is going to be good though. Going to put in my watercooling so I can overclock and run it on top notch graphics

The leak didn't have anything to do with the delay. Gabe Newell (CEO of Valve) said it was due to their extreme optimism and poor planning. The code leak bummed them out and slowed their work again, but didn't contribute to the delay.

Also, UT2k4's gameplay won't be at all similar to HL2's, and its main drawing point to alot of gamers is the continuatino of the HL2 plot, and the implementation of the physics (supposedly much better than Psi-Ops)

-edit- Also, do you have the source stating that Doom 3 went gold? There has been some hints at it, but nothing official as far as I know.

[DS]

I know it wasn't just that but when the leak was out that is what they told everyone first. Doom 3 was no better with it's pace so they both have that as a draw back. I remember playing the leak of HL2 and it was pretty nice.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/do...s_6102542.html

[KleptoKlown]

if theres no multiplayer, sales wont be nearly as good.

There better be multiplayer. That's why I didn't by Red Faction 2... no multiplayer, give me a break

[DS]

There's multiplayer.

[Buzzkill]

Valve hasn't said shit about multiplayer yet, they are keeping it secret, but it is there. They have confirmed a remake of Counter-Strike with HL2 graphics in physics (Called CS:Source) and a beta of it will be released to CS:CZ players and select others by the end of summer (so they say)

[AareDub]

I'll be at QuakeCon this year where they're holding the first ever Doom 3 tournament. There's something like $150,000 in prizes up for grabs It should be a lot of fun.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Originally Posted by Buzzkill Valve hasn't said shit about multiplayer yet, they are keeping it secret, but it is there. They have confirmed a remake of Counter-Strike with HL2 graphics in physics (Called CS:Source) and a beta of it will be released to CS:CZ players and select others by the end of summer (so they say)

Wow, something good might finally come out of having Condition Zero

[Boomer]

You can't compare Far Cry to Doom. You can't. Doom made Far Cry possible.

And when you work on a game for 5 years, it'll be that good. Especially if it's from one of the most sucessful gaming companies, id Software

Hexen
Heretic
Quake
Doom
Wolfenstein

id Software ranks up there with Blizzard IMO. Their resume is nearly flawless, because they spend time to make good games. What's so wrong with that? Now I'm in the same damn boat as everyone about Half-life 2, considering I've "owned" it for quite a while now thanks to my ATI card. But it's still going to be a good game.

So just sit down and wait for it.

You know you want to see it. You know you want to play it.

[DS]

Just because Doom made Far Cry possible, doesn't mean you can't compare them. The original Doom made FPS like Far Cry possible, they were comparing Doom 3. Doom 3 has had nothing to do with Far Cry so it's easily comparable.

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by DS Just because Doom made Far Cry possible, doesn't mean you can't compare them. The original Doom made FPS like Far Cry possible, they were comparing Doom 3. Doom 3 has had nothing to do with Far Cry so it's easily comparable.

I'm saying there IS no comparison. Far Cry is just another good FPS. Doom made the FPS genre what it is. I didn't mean it to say you couldn't compare them.

But we can't compare Doom 3 to Far Cry. It isn't even out yet.

So why don't we just sit tight and wait for Doom 3. Then we'll compare it to Far Cry.

[DS]

I completely agree on that. People are angry because it took so long to get out that they dismiss it as though it's going to be terrible. Shame.

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by DS I completely agree on that. People are angry because it took so long to get out that they dismiss it as though it's going to be terrible. Shame.

[Requiem]

The only game that I can think of off the top of my head that took forever to come out and still sucked, is Star Wars: Galaxies.

Most others that took longer than planned have been decent, if not great.

[Nowhere Man]

Well, the last Tomb Raider took a damn eternity to come out and it blew ass, but that's hardly news since all Tomb Raider games are notoriously awful.

[G]

Originally Posted by Boomer You can't compare Far Cry to Doom. You can't. Doom made Far Cry possible. And when you work on a game for 5 years, it'll be that good. Especially if it's from one of the most sucessful gaming companies, id Software Hexen Heretic Quake Doom Wolfenstein id Software ranks up there with Blizzard IMO. Their resume is nearly flawless, because they spend time to make good games. What's so wrong with that? Now I'm in the same damn boat as everyone about Half-life 2, considering I've "owned" it for quite a while now thanks to my ATI card. But it's still going to be a good game. So just sit down and wait for it. You know you want to see it. You know you want to play it.

Heretic was the fuckin shit.

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by G Heretic was the fuckin shit.

[Hired Hitman]

I played a demo of it when my cousin came around a few months back, it looks awesome.

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by Hired Hitman I played a demo of it when my cousin came around a few months back, it looks awesome.

Ya I downloaded that crappy ass E3 demo from 2 years back forever ago.

*looks in My Documents*

LOL I still have it. It's mad good looking.

[House of Pancakes]

Based on strong rumors and the 22 second clip of the Doom 3 theme song at doom3.com, Tool wrote a song for the game.

New Tool, sick game.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Originally Posted by Requiem The only game that I can think of off the top of my head that took forever to come out and still sucked, is Star Wars: Galaxies. Most others that took longer than planned have been decent, if not great.

Dakitana

[Bad Company]

Doom 3 is gonna own, easy as that.

[Ninti the Mad]

ANyone know the system requirements at this moment?

[DS]

Minimum:
P4 1.5Ghz CPU (or equivalent).
384MB of RAM.
64MB graphics card.

Supported cards:
GF 4 MX.
GF 3.
GF 4.
GF FX (and higher).
Radeon 8500s, 9000s and higher.

Recommended:
2Ghz CPU.
512MB RAM.
Radeon 9800.
5-channel sound card and speakers.

Those are by magazines, the official ones haven't been released yet but I would say something around that would be what they are going to say as well.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Woah, Deus EX 2 doesn't even support MX cards, surprised to see that

Originally Posted by Hollywood Hasney Dakitana

LOL exactly what I thought of when I read that

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by DS Minimum: P4 1.5Ghz CPU (or equivalent). 384MB of RAM. 64MB graphics card. Supported cards: GF 4 MX. GF 3. GF 4. GF FX (and higher). Radeon 8500s, 9000s and higher. Recommended: 2Ghz CPU. 512MB RAM. Radeon 9800. 5-channel sound card and speakers. Those are by magazines, the official ones haven't been released yet but I would say something around that would be what they are going to say as well.

According to TechTV, beta testers of the game are reporting that in -their- opinions, you shouldn't try to run the game unless you have 3Ghz +, 512MB RAM, and a Radeon 9700+/Geforce FX series.. Some with top of the line systems reported terrible lag even then.

Those with the minimum requirements said that they were only getting 3 FPS.

[DS]

Maybe at full graphics, but if you turn the graphics down it wouldn't be that bad.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by DS Maybe at full graphics, but if you turn the graphics down it wouldn't be that bad.

Dunno.. this was according to a lot of the testers, and I doubt they'd all be running full graphics all the time.

No doubt it's going to look awesome, but let's just hope they didn't make it too graphic heavy, and not enough game-play interest like a lot of games are going these days. Time can only tell.... I can't wait to try it out.

[DS]

Gonna play this shit on a 22".

They are smart enough to know that not everyone will be able to run at full graphics so they have to have taken in the fact that a lot of people who want to play are just people using a low stock computer. I'm sure it will be alright if you turn the graphics down. Take UT2k4 for example. At high specs even those with high end computers have a hard time running it sometimes. I think it's the same with this.

[DS]

An nVidia GeForce 3 graphics card or ATI Technologies 8500: Column author Dwight Silverman says given the game's demanding visuals, serious gamers should splurge for a GPU from nVidia's GeForce FX or 6800 line or ATI's Radeon 9800 or X800 series. He says more frugal PC owners can make do with a GeForce 5900XT or a Radeon 9600XT.

A 1.5-gigahertz Intel Pentium 4 chip or AMD Athlon 1500: Though these will run the game, Silverman suggests a 2-GHz Pentium or equivalent, with the "ideal" processor being 3 GHz or over.

384 MB of memory: Again, Silverman stresses that this is a minimum requirement, and recommends 512 MB at least, with 1GB preferred.

Two GB of hard drive space: Four GB suggested if your PC is running low on free space.

That's official.

[Bricktop]

I am very curious to see how well the online play works for such a graphics heavy game. The gamespot review of the alpha build of online play was pretty positive, but that was due to the fact that the pc's were all linked. We shall see.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Originally Posted by Bricktop I am very curious to see how well the online play works for such a graphics heavy game. The gamespot review of the alpha build of online play was pretty positive, but that was due to the fact that the pc's were all linked. We shall see.

An Activision rep just before I left work told me that the current build (as of 4-5 weeks ago that I was told, so the code could have been 3 months old even) was playable on the internet, but was only stable on a 1mbit line.

Now, net code is the LAST thing to be tweaked but 1mbit would isolate alot of players wouldn't it?

Still, even if it comes out like that, I would expect to see an optimising patch come out.

[DS]

That's pretty nice if you have a high end computer. Would be nice to have a game where everyone had their graphics up and still with little lag.