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Old 07-23-2004, 11:34 PM   #1
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"Major RAW/SummerSlam Spoiler"
-- Chris Benoit is expected to hold on to the WWE World Heavyweight Championship at RAW.

-- HHH is currently being scheduled to face Eugene Dinsmore at SummerSlam.

-- Chris Benoit is being scheduled to face Randy Orton at SummerSlam for the World Title, with current plans being to put the belt on Orton.

These are all still rumors, but are being reported by generally reliable sources.

[Credit: PWInsider.com, PWTorch.com, WrestlingObserver.com]


If this has been posted before, my bad
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Old 07-23-2004, 11:35 PM   #2
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Orton as World Champ? WOW. Already?
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Old 07-23-2004, 11:36 PM   #3
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Yeah, Orton is not winning the belt at Summerslam.

And it's funny because when I went on PWInsider this afternoon, it said Benoit would face HHH at Summerslam. HMMMMM
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Rumours are not spoilers.

Also, who wants to bet that Eugene vs HHH is the main event?
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Old 07-23-2004, 11:37 PM   #6
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Orton/Edge Summerslam for thE IC. I hope it's a Ladder match too
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Yeah, Orton is not winning the belt at Summerslam.

And it's funny because when I went on PWInsider this afternoon, it said Benoit would face HHH at Summerslam. HMMMMM
Dude. It was on the internet. IT MUST BE TRUE.
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Old 07-23-2004, 11:38 PM   #9
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I hope it's a "personality on a pole" match.

No way anyone would buy Edge winning that.
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Old 07-23-2004, 11:38 PM   #10
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That's why I put the quotation marks
Sorry, what difference does that make
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Old 07-23-2004, 11:39 PM   #12
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I was either seeing a Triple Threat IC Title Match with Orton/Edge/Benjamin. Other than that I wa sexpecting Orton to be involved in a match with Jericho or something. I thought Edge could be in the main event in a IC vs. World Heavyweight Title Match.

Orton vs. Benoit is a possibility, but things are likely to change. I'm expecting Triple H and/or Eugene to be added to the match.
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Old 07-23-2004, 11:40 PM   #14
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Old 07-23-2004, 11:40 PM   #15
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As of right now you can expect:

HHH/Benoit:World Title/ Eugene will be Guest Ref
Orton/Edge: IC Title
JBL/Taker: World Title
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The only thing that could save Summerslam is Orton/Rock. I could only wish.
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I have no problem with HHH vs. Benoit with Eugene as guest ref. But I would much prefer Orton over Benoit.
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Old 07-23-2004, 11:47 PM   #18
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Actually, if Benoit loses the Title this Monday, there is a good chance HHH will not face hum at Summerslam. But, it's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy to early for Orton to be in a World Title match. Orton has got "Rock" momentum that he had right before Summerslam 98. He needs to go babyface before he gets the Title.
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Agree completly, but still....

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Normally I believe nothing that comes from PWI, but at least part of the story was stolen news from Meltzer who says HHH is not facing Benoit at Summerslam. SO that probably means he's got Eugene. That leaves Benoit without a program, makes sense it could be with Orton, Edge would then go with Batista. Now, that doesn't guarantee that it would be for the title or that Orton would win, but stranger things have happened.
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Old 07-24-2004, 12:04 AM   #21
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OK, I'm starting to see a good thing here if they really do go Orton/Benoit. If they do that, then it really should be a ladder match. I can see the people wanting Benoit to win, but then they really want Orton to win also. Kind of like Summerslam 98, like I said before. I think this match could definately solidify Orton as a main eventer and start his babyface turn. Oh man, this could be interesting.
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Old 07-24-2004, 12:10 AM   #22
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Orton shouldn't win the belt though. He has to come soooooooooooo close which makes the fans feel sorry for him at the end. Then the fans start longing for him to be Champ and that's when he gets it. I say he beats Hunter for it.
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Orton shouldn't win the belt though. He has to come soooooooooooo close which makes the fans feel sorry for him at the end. Then the fans start longing for him to be Champ and that's when he gets it. I say he beats Hunter for it.
Yeah thats what I would do as well, but you never know whats going on up in Titan Land.
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Old 07-24-2004, 12:18 AM   #24
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But, it's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy to early for Orton to be in a World Title match.
Why does that really matter though? Orton has already been in WWE at least three times the amount of time Lesnar was before his first title win, and he's got a major IC title run under his belt, and a future classic match with Mick Foley. You know how Vince is about blowing loads too soon, if he thinks the wind is blowing towards Orton being World Champion, you can bet Randy will have it sooner than later.
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Old 07-24-2004, 12:22 AM   #25
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Lesnar wasn't quite as green.

IMO, of course.
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IMO, of course.
Maybe not, but I think Orton is way over at this point.
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Old 07-24-2004, 12:30 AM   #27
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Yeah, but Lesner is a lot different then Orton. Lesner was big, was intiminating, had no mic skills, and just seemed like a guy who could get the belt fast. With Orton, the fans really are starting to get behind him, like Rock in 98. Now, you have to make the fans long for him to be Champion and make him come ever so close to being Champ. That way, it will be even greater when he does win the Belt. You give the Belt to him right away and the fans probably won't care about him like they would if you make him chase the Belt.

I say he turns babyface, feuds with Hunter/Evolution/Bischoff and keeps getting scerwed by them. The fans will get behind him and then he wins the Title.
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Old 07-24-2004, 12:34 AM   #28
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Remember how over Rock was right before SurvivoR Series 98? Remember when he "Rock Bottomed" Vince right before the PPV? Remember when he almost didn't get to be in the Survivor Series Tournament because he had a match with Shamrock where he had to pin him or Vince said he wasn't going to the Tournament? Well Shamrock hit Rock with a chair and got DQ'ed and Vince said Rock wasn't going to Survivor Series.

But then the next week on Raw, The Rock did something to get into the Tournament.

Anyway, the fans were really behind him at that point. That's exactly how you do this with Orton.

Now the question is, do you turn Orton heel again right after he just turned babyface?
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Maybe not, but I think Orton is way over at this point.
Yeah, but the question is how well he can handle a main event slot.
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Old 07-24-2004, 12:38 AM   #30
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Benoit/Orton would be a solid RAW main event.

Think about it, this is Orton's chance to get a real main event rub. There is no doubt in my mind that Benoit can and will bring the best out of Orton. The WWE can also play it safe since Summerslam is in Canada. There is no chance of Benoit getting booed in Canada.
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Old 07-24-2004, 12:48 AM   #31
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Here's how I think Orton should go about winning the World Title.

Let's assume after Summerslam that Trips defeats Benoit to regain the title. The next night on RAW Benoit demands a rematch, but Bischoff refuses to give him one because he feels that Orton should be #1 contender. Orton is unsure he should take on the challenge, and Evolution convinces him to do it, so if he were to face Trips for the title he'd just throw the match. So Orton and Benoit have a match for the title shot, and Orton cleanly defeats Benoit, What's even more shocking is that Benoit and Orton shake hands at the end, foreshadowing Orton's face turn.

On the next RAW Evolution is pissed that Orton showed Benoit any respect, and Orton completes his face turn by saying to Trips that he's not going to throw the match because it's "his turn, and Trips had his glory." So babyface Orton feuds with Trips for weeks on end until they have a glorifed match on PPV where Orton picks up a clean victory over Trips, and the World Heavyweight title.

PS - I don't whether Flair should turn face along with Orton as his manager, or if he should just stay with Trips.
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Keep Flair off of Orton.

Also, they need to hold off on giving him the title. It's not that he hasn't paid his dues or whatever, because I don't believe in it. I just don't think he can be considered ready.

Don't get me wrong, he's awesome on the mic, but he is green.
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Good idea, but they really should do his babyface turn, where he breaks from Evo, really slow. I say he has the match with Benoit at Summerslam and comes up short. Trips starts to get real jelous of Orton and tells Orton that he should of never accepted that match with Benoit at Summerslam. Evolution agrees with HHH and they ask Orton where his head is at. Then as the Raw shows go on, you have Orton doing these "little" things which get under HHH's skin and irriates him. Then HHH starts putting Orton in crappy matches and keeps shunning Orton more and more. Batista and Flair do the same. Finally, Orton gets a rematch for the Title on a Raw or a PPV. Evolution would come out during the match, which would make it seem that they will help Orton. But instead, they turn on Orton and kick the crap out of him. Then Orton gets his revenge on Evolution in the coming months after. Then you do Orton/HHH at Mania for the Title and Orton gets the Belt. BINGO.
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I agree with everyone here when I say they should not put the title on Orton...yet. I think they should do it at Survivor Series. Have him beat HHH. Then you go to the Royal Rumble and John Cena wins it. Cena goes to WM where he beats Kurt Angle clean and Orton defends against HHH and beats him. Cena turns heel shortly after Mania. They both go on vicious runs defeating people left and right, but doing the "jobs" in tag matches. All of a sudden, on a RAW in the summer Cena shows up on RAW and says that he is done with SD. That they are all a bunch of losers, that he has beaten them all. That now he is a legend. Bring in Orton right after Legend is mentioned. Orton talks the talk and walks the walk by just destroying Cena. Orton then goes to Eric Bischoff and demands that Cena be traded to RAW. Bisch leaves the hint that this might just be the start of SD superstars coming to RAW (the end of the roster split) Cena comes to Raw and starts a program with Orton. They battle at SS 2005 in a singles match where Cena goes over with his feet on the ropes. They have a little bit more of a feud which will lead us up to Survivor Series. Orton, sick of Cena's bullshit, will demand a unification of the two titles and a ladder match. You have Orton/Cena in a singles match, some tag matches and a ladder match to unify the titles. I think this could go a long way.


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cena shouldn't be heel. He should be the whole Austin-Antihero.
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I guess WM21 is when Cena or Edge will get a world title.
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Here is what I would do.

Make Orton Evolution's bitch. Have Edge cheat again at SummerSlam to go over Orton for the IC title. Fans are already starting to sympathize with Orton over Edge's gay cheating. After taking three losses to Edge, without really hurting Orton's credibility since Edge is cheating, which also gives Edge heel heat for his turn, where he goes back to the blonde surfer boy type who cheats. Put him against Jericho, and a fresh heel with an IC title against a bunch of misused midcard faces is a hot ticket. This would elevate Edge, give Jericho something to do that's actually worth his skills, and for Orton...

Have Evolution lose confidence in Orton. With Triple H giving off the idea that Orton isn't that great anymore, after taking three straight losses to Edge. Say he embarassed Evolution. Everyone knows this is complete shit, because Orton had such a long reign with the belt and went over Foley twice. Evolution stops taking Randy Orton seriously. They start turning their attention to Batista to get the job done for the future.

Why? Because Batista didn't fail to get the job done. After knocking Jericho out, and annihilating Chris Benoit, Batista is now something that could be taken seriously with the proper momentum, while involving him in a major storyline. Batista continues to be successful, punishing and defeating all mid-card jobbers who oppose Evolution, while Randy Orton is constantly insulted by Evolution's lack of faith in him.

Line up a bunch of jabronis for Randy Orton for a few weeks. Pull the Brooklyn Brawler out of the wood shed, a Bushwhacker, and guys like that. Orton would obviously go over in a few squash matches, while the fans are entertained by the "jobbing legends" of the WWE.

This doesn't hurt anyone in Evolution, and sympathy continues to grow for Orton. RAW is working to increase its ratings for their new TV contract, they're going to be looking to put some serious fireworks on RAW, as we will see this Monday when Benoit defends against Edge in the Iron Man Match. That is a HIGH PROFILE match. Continue the momentum after Triple H regains the World Heavyweight Championship by having a 15-Man Over-The-Top-Rope elimination match, or a tournament.

Push Benoit to the moon in the match, having him end up as the final man with Orton, whether it be the battle royal or a tournament. If it's one on one, send him packing with Batista cheating (thus hinting that Batista may have Benoit's number, and setting Benoit up to regain some credibility at a future PPV) and if it's a battle royal have Orton skin the cat or something. But make him look talented.

Then as Orton gets his match, he has his chance to "make it up" to Evolution, after "embarassing" them, he can lay down for Triple H, and that's where the idea comes into play (I realize other people mentioned the Orton laying down for Trips scenerio) where he ends up refusing.

It is too soon to give him the title IMO. Have Evolution beat the shit out of him in the match after he refuses to lie down. Randy Orton is now one pissed off, mad over face.

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Okay, I've tried and I can't picture ANY way HHH-Benoit could work @ SummerSlam. Seriously, if this does end up being the main event, it will make 5 times in 5 months that they faced for the title. Even HHH and HBK never approached THAT. You add Eugene as ref and what happens? Eugene costs HHH the title? (They JUST did that). Eugene costs BENOIT the title? (Would be fine by me but most everyone else would be pissed.)

Orton beating Benoit for the title though would be scrumptrilescent!
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Holy crap, Orton getting the belt already. I cant wait till this happens. I will have to make sure my brother is in the room with me so I can laugh at him when Orton wins. But then again I guess if Orton loses he will be laughing at me. God I hope this is true.
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