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Old 07-26-2004, 07:09 PM   #1
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So Nova is going to play a gay Richard Simmons type fitness instructor....

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Old 07-26-2004, 07:14 PM   #2
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Old 07-26-2004, 07:14 PM   #3
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Old 07-26-2004, 07:15 PM   #4
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yeah, I posted that on the main page today. I was like "wtf" when I read about it yesterday. But then I thought about BEN Stiller's character from Heavyweights and I think it would be great if they went that way.
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Old 07-26-2004, 07:15 PM   #5
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I think it would be best if what you just said is never mentioned again. If we all ignore it, it might go away.
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Old 07-26-2004, 07:16 PM   #6
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Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Nowhere Man got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)
Jeez, what is it with giving awesome wrestlers such shitty gimmicks?
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Old 07-26-2004, 07:16 PM   #7
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What would be so bad about just letting him be Nova?
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Old 07-26-2004, 07:16 PM   #8
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Nah they should've went with the Super Nova gimmick and formed a stable with Hurricane and Rosey. The Allies Of Justice or something, or even better, make Nova a super villain.
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Old 07-26-2004, 07:16 PM   #9
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Old 07-26-2004, 07:17 PM   #10
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Now, wait a second. What were you guys and myself saying about the Eugene gimmick at the begginning. Everyone was saying it would suck. But it didn't and it got over real quick with the fans. Give it a chance
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Old 07-26-2004, 07:20 PM   #11
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Old 07-26-2004, 07:21 PM   #12
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Nah they should've went with the Super Nova gimmick and formed a stable with Hurricane and Rosey. The Allies Of Justice or something, or even better, make Nova a super villain.
Nova and Super Nova are registered trademarks of Marvel Entertainment.

Might get sticky.
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Old 07-26-2004, 07:21 PM   #13
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Old 07-26-2004, 07:22 PM   #14
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Now, wait a second. What were you guys and myself saying about the Eugene gimmick at the begginning. Everyone was saying it would suck. But it didn't and it got over real quick with the fans. Give it a chance
Yea, he got over really quick, but where can he go from here? How long is that gimmick really going to be able to last him?
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Old 07-26-2004, 07:23 PM   #15
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Well they milked the gimmick, so that was the WWE's fault. But the gimmick got over with the fans.
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Old 07-26-2004, 07:24 PM   #16
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Yea, he got over really quick, but where can he go from here? How long is that gimmick really going to be able to last him?
It is a bad idea, and people started to sour on him as fast as they grew to love him.

The angle's working pretty good, I think, but it's still a bad idea to have done.
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Old 07-26-2004, 07:31 PM   #17
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Old 07-26-2004, 07:33 PM   #18
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Yeah LC the gimmick got over but how long can it continue, can it draw, etc.

And like I said about this idea for Nova
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Old 07-26-2004, 07:39 PM   #19
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The WWE gave a great gimmick to a shitty wrestler in JBL, so you figure that their logic is to help bad wrestlers by giving them a great gimmick, and vice versa?

WWE logic
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Old 07-26-2004, 07:40 PM   #20
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Just think. If you throw enough superstars at a gimmick, you can get it over for a whole two weeks before people stop souring on it.

Is this a success? Or just proof that if you market something heavily enough, you can make it popular for fifteen minutes?
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Old 07-26-2004, 07:44 PM   #21
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It's affirmative action's fault.

They're now required, by law, to push equality. The worst wrestlers, therefore, need massive pushes.

DAMN YOU, GOVERNMENT!
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It's affirmative action's fault.

They're now required, by law, to push equality. The worst wrestlers, therefore, need massive pushes.

DAMN YOU, GOVERNMENT!
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Old 07-26-2004, 08:01 PM   #23
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yeah, I posted that on the main page today. I was like "wtf" when I read about it yesterday. But then I thought about BEN Stiller's character from Heavyweights and I think it would be great if they went that way.

HEY! The "WWE will change all of their wrestlers into characters from Ben Stiller movies" angle was MY IDEA!!! MINE!!!!!!!!!


AH hell... who am I kidding. I'll rep you anyways, cause I wouldn't have noticed it.
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Old 07-26-2004, 08:04 PM   #24
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Nova and Super Nova are registered trademarks of Marvel Entertainment.

Might get sticky.
I don't think it would be all that bad. PBS still has an entire show called Nova, and Marvel didn't say anything about it.

Speaking of which, if I met Stan Lee in person, I'd wrap my arm around him and thank him for creating Spiderman....and then I'd kick him in the nuts for creating Stripperella.
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Old 07-26-2004, 08:10 PM   #25
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Jesus,

First they make Nova cut his hair because he was looking too much like HHH, only Nova kicks more ass. Now he's Skip minus the only thing that kept him straight, Sunny. Excuse me while I whip this out...

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Old 07-26-2004, 08:11 PM   #26
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legendkiller mentioned draws. You have to understand, there are only a few draws in wrestling hisotry. Austin, Hogan, HBK, Bret, HHH, Rock, Taker, Flair, Foley and a few others. Gimmicks like Eugene, Heel Doink, Val Venis, Honky Tonk, Adonis, JYD, Kane etc... were not drawing gimmicks, but they added to the show as a whole and they did get over with the crowd. Now, did people pay money just to see these guys? NO. They usually paid money to see the guys mentioned at the top. These "gimmicks" added to the show however and got the crowd into the show as a whole.

Thing with Eugene was that it might have been a draw if they didn't milk the character so fast. Who knows what would of happened.

Now would Nova be a draw with any other gimmick or just being himself? Probably Not. So, just give the gimmick a chance and we'll see what happens. I could see it working if they went heel with it.
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I thought this was bullshit until I listened to the bug I planted in the WWE writing room.

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Writer 2: "Well, he's pretty good in the ring and came up with a ton of innovative maneuvers... how about we give him a "Man of a Thousand Moves" persona and stick him in the Cruiserweight division to liven things up... even put on some great matches with other athelets like Paul London or even that Akio when he comes back?"
Writer 1: "Nah, that'll never work. That's just horrible. Got anything else?"
Writer 2: "Well... Rico's out because of injuries, why don't we give him Rico's gimmick?"
Writer 1: "That's brilliant! But we can't just copy it, or else the fans will know."
Writer 2: "I know! We'll make him Richard Simmons! That way, the fans will think he's a fresh new character and will never see the similarities!"
Writer 1: "By George, that's brilliant! Lets take a break!"
Writer 2: "Yes! But when we come back, we gotta figure out who to job Jericho to next."
Writer 1: "Yeah, we've done HHH, Austin, Orton, Batista, Palumbo, Rosey, Tajiri, Mae Young, Stephanie's pit bull, a parrot, a tub of tapioca, a Vegas showgirl, Dark Kane, and a fly, so we're kind of running out of options."
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Old 07-26-2004, 09:54 PM   #32
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Old 07-26-2004, 09:56 PM   #33
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Old 07-26-2004, 10:13 PM   #34
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I will seriously kill someone (just for argument's sake, let's say Nowhere Man ) if Rico and whatever-they-call-Nova do backstage "Queer Eye" segments.
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Old 07-26-2004, 10:38 PM   #35
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as alluded to earlier, this gimmick has been done before with the bodydonnas. It didn't get over then, and it won't get over now.
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Old 07-27-2004, 01:25 AM   #36
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I don't think it would be all that bad. PBS still has an entire show called Nova, and Marvel didn't say anything about it.

Speaking of which, if I met Stan Lee in person, I'd wrap my arm around him and thank him for creating Spiderman....and then I'd kick him in the nuts for creating Stripperella.
PBS has a show called Nova.

Trademark infringement only works if there's some grounds for marketing confusion.

People will not confuse the PBS show for the comic book.

People might confuse a super hero named Nova in wrestling with a super hero named Nova in the Comics.

That, my friends, is the difference between no suit and whoipping suit.

And considering WWE just sued Marvel over the whole "hulk" thing, it'd be a REALLY bad idea to push it.

And yes, Lee's gotta pay for Strippparella, but not too dearly, because he created some awesome comics before he hit his midlife crisis.
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Old 07-27-2004, 01:26 AM   #37
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as alluded to earlier, this gimmick has been done before with the bodydonnas. It didn't get over then, and it won't get over now.
You DID?????

It was so subtle I didn't even notice!
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Old 07-27-2004, 02:39 AM   #38
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I'd suck your cock if you were in front of me right now.
And here I thought that was Randy's job.

But seriouslly, if they do pair him up with Rico...I, for one, will be laughing my stoned ass off. Hilarity would surely insue. So lets give the gimmick a chance before we piss on it.
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Old 07-27-2004, 02:42 AM   #39
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This is really a two part questions, I AM ON TO YOU. One, there is no god, but rather gods. As for the second part assuming there is a loving god out there as stated in your first part. Children get cancer out of love. Cancer is a creation of god, and he loves cancer. Children are a creation of god, and he loves children. Thus children with cancer are people he really love.
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Old 07-27-2004, 02:49 AM   #40
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