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Old 08-16-2004, 07:24 PM   #1
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I HATED the Toronto crowd's reactions for the most part. I know people have he right to boo and cheer who they want, but trust me, Toronto's blown their chances of having the WWE back for a LONG, LONG time.

I didn't mind the booing Edge that much. He sort of played it up (digged the "I'm better than all you people ." look). I didn't like the booing Eugene part. I can tell you now, anybody who straight out boos the Eugene character has something wrong with them. I can just see someone making a "Wrestling Fans Taught to Hate Mentally Disabled!" article. Not everyone in that building hated Eugene, and they only booed him because they thoughtit was "cool". I would have laughed myself stupid if any of the commentators, really ripped into Toronto, or if all the Toronto wrestlers came out after the show and ripped into their hometown. I quite frankly wouldn't be surprised if the crowd booed their own anthem.

I'm not having a go at anyone here personally, but it was exciting at WrestleMania X8, and it was interesting during the Edge/Jericho/Batista match (for the most part, it was still cruel, though), but during the Eugene/Triple H match it disgusted me. He are two guys working their asses off, clearly playing the good guy/bad guy role, they spelt it out, and I don't think Eugene Dinsmore could have been acted out by anyone but Nick Dinsmore. I was a little upset at the end result of the match, but what really got me was that the crowd was BOOING this pure good guy type character. Noone else boos him, but Toronto has the need to. This told me that they don't hate Eugene, but they thought it would be cool to boo a mentally disabled person.

Those people paid good money to get into the arena, only to make fun of the wrestlers' hard work? I think they thought they could start some automatic turns by playing up. Hulk Hogan became cheered massively after WMX8, but I hope Eugene gets a massive face ovation too.

I think it would have been suitable to cheer the heels (save Triple H, maybe), but straight out booing the faces? I disagree with this completely. I'd say Toronto won't be hosting a major WWE PPV for a while.

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Old 08-16-2004, 07:27 PM   #2
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Like King said, it was like they were in Bizzaroland.
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Old 08-16-2004, 07:29 PM   #3
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Canadian fans are retarded. Personally, I thought it was a bad idea to host Summerslam in Toronto period, because Summerslam is the usually the flagship "American" PPV. They booed Eugene, booed Edge, did the wave during JBL vs Undertaker, and chanted "you screwed bret" to Benoit during the main event. I agree with Alienoid, these fans are just downright disgusting. If the WWE does the right thing (which is unlikely), Toronto won't have a decent WWE show there for a long time.
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Old 08-16-2004, 07:32 PM   #4
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Canadian fans are retarded. Personally, I thought it was a bad idea to host Summerslam in Toronto period, because Summerslam is the usually the flagship "American" PPV. They booed Eugene, booed Edge, did the wave during JBL vs Undertaker, and chanted "you screwed bret" to Benoit during the main event. I agree with Alienoid, these fans are just downright disgusting. If the WWE does the right thing (which is unlikely), Toronto won't have a decent WWE show there for a long time.
They were actually chanting 'You Screwed Bret' to Earl Hebner, not Benoit.
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Old 08-16-2004, 07:33 PM   #5
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i was there live, it was really strange seing the crowd boo eugene and edge, so i was like wtf, and yelled "stop booing you assholes"

the people beside us and a lot of people around us were from america tho
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Old 08-16-2004, 07:34 PM   #6
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Ive heard on more than one occasion people booing Eugene, so it's not an isolated incedent...

The NY crowd, especially at MSG, rips into every little thing, most noteably the Lesnar/Goldberg match at Mania... When I was at SummerSlam 2002, everyone was booing Rock and cheering Lesnar, when Rock was the face going into it... It just depends on where they are and what's happening...

Quite frankly, some of the casual fans and some of the smarks are starting to hate the Eugene charcter... Not because he's retarded, but because his gimmick is getting old fast... Not alot of people could pull it off quite like Dinsmore, but the gimmick is one of those get in and get out things... It will be around for a bit longer, but sooner or later Dinsmore has to change gimmicks... How, I dont know, but it has to happen, if WWE wants it or not...
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Why shouldn't they boo Edge? He's slowly turning heel. Booing Eugene is a lot odder, I'll agree, but he IS getting stale. He's kinda getting X-Pac heat, even tho he's a face, which is weird. Frankly, he NEEDS a heel turn... and fast. They rushed him over a little too much, and that's the price.

Granted, Canada has always been a little contrary, but I wouldn't be surprised to hear it happened at MSG or Philly either.
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Why shouldn't they boo Edge? He's slowly turning heel. Booing Eugene is a lot odder, I'll agree, but he IS getting stale. He's kinda getting X-Pac heat, even tho he's a face, which is weird. Frankly, he NEEDS a heel turn... and fast. They rushed him over a little too much, and that's the price.

Granted, Canada has always been a little contrary, but I wouldn't be surprised to hear it happened at MSG or Philly either.
I think the fact that Edge was from Toronto, made it seem odd. When ever someone wrestles in their hometown, you expect them to be cheered, not booed
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Old 08-16-2004, 07:50 PM   #9
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Canadian fans kick ass they do what they want. They enjoy the show and have fun. That is far more respectable then guys working hard in the ring or mic, and watching yankee fans down south sitting on their asses on mute.

Doing a wave during a boring match is also more respectful then chanting "BORING" at the wrestlers too. Many arenas do that. They didn't want to say that match sucked, so they had some fun, big deal.

Shit, Austin back in the day was a pure badass, yet the fans cheered him, thus forcing him face. Was that bad?? The fans can cheer and root for who they wish to. Plain and simple.

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There are also stories saying that a fan ran onto JBL's limo which meant the chokeslam through the roof didn't come off as well as it should've. I know that's only one person but it's still another thing from last nights crowd that the WWE won't have liked.
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Canadian fans kick ass they do what they want. They enjoy the show and have fun. That is far more respectable then guys working hard in the ring or mic, and watching yankee fans down south sitting on their asses on mute.

Doing a wave during a boring match is also more respectful then chanting "BORING" at the wrestlers too. Many arenas do that. They didn't want to say that match sucked, so they had some fun, big deal.

Shit, Austin back in the day was a pure badass, yet the fans cheered him, thus forcing him face. Was that bad?? The fans can cheer and root for who they wish to. Plain and simple.
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The arse backwards fans in Toronto ruined the show. Any other city in Canada would not have shit on the guys like they did.
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The arse backwards fans in Toronto ruined the show. Any other city in Canada would not have shit on the guys like they did.
You're probably right. Montreal or anywhere in Alberta probably would have done louder "You screwed Bret" chants, but I don't think they would have done everything else.
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I HATED the Toronto crowd's reactions for the most part. I know people have he right to boo and cheer who they want, but trust me, Toronto's blown their chances of having the WWE back for a LONG, LONG time.

I didn't mind the booing Edge that much. He sort of played it up (digged the "I'm better than all you people ." look). I didn't like the booing Eugene part. I can tell you now, anybody who straight out boos the Eugene character has something wrong with them. I can just see someone making a "Wrestling Fans Taught to Hate Mentally Disabled!" article. Not everyone in that building hated Eugene, and they only booed him because they thoughtit was "cool". I would have laughed myself stupid if any of the commentators, really ripped into Toronto, or if all the Toronto wrestlers came out after the show and ripped into their hometown. I quite frankly wouldn't be surprised if the crowd booed their own anthem.

I'm not having a go at anyone here personally, but it was exciting at WrestleMania X8, and it was interesting during the Edge/Jericho/Batista match (for the most part, it was still cruel, though), but during the Eugene/Triple H match it disgusted me. He are two guys working their asses off, clearly playing the good guy/bad guy role, they spelt it out, and I don't think Eugene Dinsmore could have been acted out by anyone but Nick Dinsmore. I was a little upset at the end result of the match, but what really got me was that the crowd was BOOING this pure good guy type character. Noone else boos him, but Toronto has the need to. This told me that they don't hate Eugene, but they thought it would be cool to boo a mentally disabled person.

Those people paid good money to get into the arena, only to make fun of the wrestlers' hard work? I think they thought they could start some automatic turns by playing up. Hulk Hogan became cheered massively after WMX8, but I hope Eugene gets a massive face ovation too.

I think it would have been suitable to cheer the heels (save Triple H, maybe), but straight out booing the faces? I disagree with this completely. I'd say Toronto won't be hosting a major WWE PPV for a while.
I was their and yes people were booing Eugene but it was because their were so many Evolution marks.The Evolution T-shirts were sold out everywhere in the ACC.And since HHH is a part of Evolution you figure they will boo Eugene.
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Well Montreal is creative. I know they've been doing those 2 chants since like house shows back in the late 90's..they're a mix of french and english so it's always combustible.
The toronto crowd was great though. They didn't shit on anything. Why? Cuz they didn't act like puppets and get fed the garbage that is eugene?
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There are also stories saying that a fan ran onto JBL's limo which meant the chokeslam through the roof didn't come off as well as it should've. I know that's only one person but it's still another thing from last nights crowd that the WWE won't have liked.
That happens everywhere that moron got what he deserved(tackled by about 5 security guards) since it happened right after taker got DQ'ed im guessing he was an upset taker fan
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I think the fact that Edge was from Toronto, made it seem odd. When ever someone wrestles in their hometown, you expect them to be cheered, not booed
Everyone is anticpating the heel turn and Jericho was alot more popular and most people wanted him to win it
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ha ha ha

Some of you guys make me laugh.

The show was ruined by fans reactions, thats just rediculous.

I predicted Edge would get booed in Toronto, its a simple case of him not being over here. The fans weren't into him, and I bet them making a big deal of being from Toronto got more fans to boo him. Why? Because its so lame when they try to get a pop for a guy just because he's from the city you live in. So the fans turned on that. Not to mention the fact that Jericho is far more entertaining than Edge, and as such he got cheered.

Eugene is an insult to the intelligence of anyone over the age of 10. I thought we were past the crazy George Steele type gimmicks, apparently not. So the fans, who have been told for the last 7/8 years that that kind of stuff is passe turned on the charcter. Again, to me thats no big shock. And again, how does is it ruin a show just because people choose to cheer for guys they like instead of guys the WWE tells you to cheer. Was Wrestlemania X-Seven ruined when the crowd cheered for Austin beating down on Rock after it was clear he was with McMahon? No, the fans did what they did, and it was a great segment. Back to Eugene what happens in 3/4 months whenever Eugene turns heel, I guess it will be okay to boo, but if its done now, its a sign of the devil.

JBL gets heat everyone on the 'net, apparently a lot of those same fans went to the ACC and let the WWE know that JBL as champ doesn't fly with them. Ive come to accept Bradshaw as an act, but I can understand why a lot of fans see him as a joke, and as such see the WWE Championship as a joke.

Angle got cheered over Eddie, hey thats just a case of the fans loving Angle, Eddie was just in a tough spot.

Aside from that, I dont see the problem. All this heat on the net towards the fans is hilarious to me. You all sound like you are auditioning for jobs with the WWE PR staff. Maybe the WWE should try to use separate entrances and have heels come out of one side and faces the other, and demand that the fans follow their instructions and cheer for who they tell to cheer for. I remember a time when the WWE promoted freedom of speech, I guess some of you guys are no longer for that notion.

Again, its all very humourous to me.
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Personally, I thought it was a bad idea to host Summerslam in Toronto period, because Summerslam is the usually the flagship "American" PPV.
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As a whole, I was a bit surprised by the crowd reaction, but not quite as much as I thought I would be.

As far as booing Edge goes? I can understand that. The guy is stale, and he has a sucky gimmick. Not to mention that probably 90% of the people there probably wanted Jericho to win, and that I can agree with. Y2J = Ratings.

Taker/JBL? I can see fans booing that. It didn't have much buildup at all, but I have to admit that doing the wave was rude...Two guys out there trying to put on a show, to tell a story, and everyone is doing the wave. That's so rude.

Eugene? That....I just don't get. Eugene is mega over, due to the fact that he plays up the gimmick well, and a lot of fans want to pull for the mentally challenged person, as they seem to be the Underdog. But props to Eugene/HHH for putting on a good match last night. I've always been a Triple H fan, and will continue to remain one, regardless of how he's portrayed with his creative control..but even if he does misuse his creative control, you've got to admit that lately, he's been putting over people when it counts.

By the way...Congrats to Randy Orton! I totally freaked out when he won the belt last night, and it was the good kind of freak out. Hopefully we'll see more RKO's tonight.

But as for the booing issue? I guess we'll just have to see tonight...It'll be interesting to gauge everyone's reactions.
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As a whole, I was a bit surprised by the crowd reaction, but not quite as much as I thought I would be.

As far as booing Edge goes? I can understand that. The guy is stale, and he has a sucky gimmick. Not to mention that probably 90% of the people there probably wanted Jericho to win, and that I can agree with. Y2J = Ratings.

Taker/JBL? I can see fans booing that. It didn't have much buildup at all, but I have to admit that doing the wave was rude...Two guys out there trying to put on a show, to tell a story, and everyone is doing the wave. That's so rude.

Eugene? That....I just don't get. Eugene is mega over, due to the fact that he plays up the gimmick well, and a lot of fans want to pull for the mentally challenged person, as they seem to be the Underdog. But props to Eugene/HHH for putting on a good match last night. I've always been a Triple H fan, and will continue to remain one, regardless of how he's portrayed with his creative control..but even if he does misuse his creative control, you've got to admit that lately, he's been putting over people when it counts.

By the way...Congrats to Randy Orton! I totally freaked out when he won the belt last night, and it was the good kind of freak out. Hopefully we'll see more RKO's tonight.

But as for the booing issue? I guess we'll just have to see tonight...It'll be interesting to gauge everyone's reactions.
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Eugene IS NOT MEGA OVER. He gets booed mostly everywhere he shows up. He only gets pops when he saves the day or something like that in which most people cheer anyway.
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Old 08-16-2004, 09:21 PM   #25
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Also Matt hardy and Lita got booed as well as people were yelling things like Lita is a slut and screw Matt bring back Jeff
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Well, I can't speak for everyone, but when I went to Raw, his music hit, and the whole place lit up with cheers.

As for Matt Hardy/Kane? Meh...Kane = sucks.

Matt Hardy is decent in the ring, but I dare say a Matt Hardy/Kane feud without Lita (however that would be managed) would be better than a feud -WITH- Lita.
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Some of you guys make me laugh.

The show was ruined by fans reactions, thats just rediculous.

I predicted Edge would get booed in Toronto, its a simple case of him not being over here. The fans weren't into him, and I bet them making a big deal of being from Toronto got more fans to boo him. Why? Because its so lame when they try to get a pop for a guy just because he's from the city you live in. So the fans turned on that. Not to mention the fact that Jericho is far more entertaining than Edge, and as such he got cheered.

Eugene is an insult to the intelligence of anyone over the age of 10. I thought we were past the crazy George Steele type gimmicks, apparently not. So the fans, who have been told for the last 7/8 years that that kind of stuff is passe turned on the charcter. Again, to me thats no big shock. And again, how does is it ruin a show just because people choose to cheer for guys they like instead of guys the WWE tells you to cheer. Was Wrestlemania X-Seven ruined when the crowd cheered for Austin beating down on Rock after it was clear he was with McMahon? No, the fans did what they did, and it was a great segment. Back to Eugene what happens in 3/4 months whenever Eugene turns heel, I guess it will be okay to boo, but if its done now, its a sign of the devil.

JBL gets heat everyone on the 'net, apparently a lot of those same fans went to the ACC and let the WWE know that JBL as champ doesn't fly with them. Ive come to accept Bradshaw as an act, but I can understand why a lot of fans see him as a joke, and as such see the WWE Championship as a joke.

Angle got cheered over Eddie, hey thats just a case of the fans loving Angle, Eddie was just in a tough spot.

Aside from that, I dont see the problem. All this heat on the net towards the fans is hilarious to me. You all sound like you are auditioning for jobs with the WWE PR staff. Maybe the WWE should try to use separate entrances and have heels come out of one side and faces the other, and demand that the fans follow their instructions and cheer for who they tell to cheer for. I remember a time when the WWE promoted freedom of speech, I guess some of you guys are no longer for that notion.

Again, its all very humourous to me.
Dude seriously, fans have the right to say what they want and cheer who they like. Nothing pisses me off more than WWE censoring their own fans but you have to admit the fans at the PPV were cheering certain guys just to be different from the norm,

I'm still blaming you lot for Hogan for the record.
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The only people I didn't here get booed at one time or another were Cena and Rvd.
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Well,oddly enough the last time Raw came here to Miami, there were fans who booed Eugene and others who booed Edge (well, maybe just me..god,I hate him) and others cheering for HHH. So no matter where you go, you got people who like one side to another and that is not a problem. Hell, when Jericho was heel, I preferred him than any face and cheered him on. I cheered him on here when he had the Undisputed title while heel and everyone at the time couldn't stand him. And if anything, this helps the writers show what the crowds really what.
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I was there Yeah toronto was all for Hogan and against the Rock just because he was agianst him. It was great though.....um yeah
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Dude seriously, fans have the right to say what they want and cheer who they like. Nothing pisses me off more than WWE censoring their own fans but you have to admit the fans at the PPV were cheering certain guys just to be different from the norm,

I'm still blaming you lot for Hogan for the record.
I can defend the Hogan thing, since I was a part of it.

People on the net has this perception that fans are Toronto got together and went "ha ha lets cheer for all the heels, oh except for JBL, Booker, the Dudleys and Batista, ha, that'll show em". The only heels that really got huge support was Angle and HHH. Orton got a huge pop for winning the strap, but fans will always mark for a world title switch.

I think we just like who we like, and we cheer for them regardless of heel-face stuff. I mean back when Austin-Mania was running wild, we were like every other city, we cheered for him like crazy. So that whole Toronto fans cheer for heels for the sake of cheering heels is BS.

All Vince had to do was drop me an e-mail and I could have told him before the show who would get cheered and who would get heat. Its all about knowing your audience, but the WWE doesn't know anything, and thats why they are always suprised when stuff like this happens. Hell even DDP knows Toronto is a tough town to be a baby in.
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Well,oddly enough the last time Raw came here to Miami, there were fans who booed Eugene and others who booed Edge (well, maybe just me..god,I hate him) and others cheering for HHH. So no matter where you go, you got people who like one side to another and that is not a problem. Hell, when Jericho was heel, I preferred him than any face and cheered him on. I cheered him on here when he had the Undisputed title while heel and everyone at the time couldn't stand him. And if anything, this helps the writers show what the crowds really what.
This is the thing, Eugene has been getting booed in a lot of cities. The difference in Toronto is that a larger portion of the crowd are the type of fans who would be on the 'net and follow the business closely. Not to say we dont have our share of casual fans, but the majority of those in the ACC were likely pretty hardcore fans. And thats why you dont get people going crazy for an insulting character like Eugene or a disgrace to the WWE title like JBL.
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I'm a Western Canadian meaning I hate Toronto. But seriously, they've always cheered differently and as somebody alluded to earlier, it's because they're not going to be puppets and be told who to cheer for. They dont' like wrestlers so they boo them. They don't like gimmicks so they boo them. It's better than some quiet crowds that we see a lot of.
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I was at the show, and I will admit that the wave was possibly going a bit too far. It was fun being there and actually doing it though, but that just shows how shitty the match was. If the fans started a boring chant or just said nothing at all, wouldn't that come off pretty badly on TV as well? Booing Edge and Eugene shows exactly what the fans want. They helped start the comeback of Hulkamania, and they are very vocal and passionate smarks for the most part. So much better than the Boston crowds, they usually don't cheer for anything unless its huge.
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I was fairly shocked by the crowd reactions. Whether good or bad, Canadian crowds can make or break matches.

I honestly just couldn't believe that they were doing the wave during the Undertaker/JBL match. Usually doing the Wave is done when you want to see some action. And to do that during a match that may not be the most exciting, is still disrespectful to the performers that do what they can to entertain you.

Edge getting booed really doesn't seem like a big deal except that they were in his hometown. I've seen people get booed in their hometown because they already were heel, but he is stale, and just hasn't been the same since he returned.

I was disappointed to hear the reaction to Eugene. For the most part, he is cheered all over the country. But the fact that Eugene is a different kind of superstar means he gets booed. I remember hearing boos when Zach Gowen was in that area last year. Though some of this was done to actually boo him, since I saw a few Anti-Eugene signs in the crowd.

But lastly, I'm most disappointed that alot of the reactions will be edited by the time SummerSlam comes out on DVD.
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Thank god Eugene got booed, ditto for Edge as well. Being from Toronto myself( didn't go to the ppv) i'm kind of surprised that the crowd wasn't as "active" as they usually are. WWE will be back in Toronto( just not for a ppv lol) cause Canada if i am not mistaken has always been a good market for the WWE. Oh well maybe the crappy wrestling ruined the ppv instead of the fans. Yep Toronto fans are definately different to say the least, but meh what can ya do. And for god sakes the fans need to get over the bret hart crap now, its just really old now.
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Canadian fans kick ass they do what they want. They enjoy the show and have fun. That is far more respectable then guys working hard in the ring or mic, and watching yankee fans down south sitting on their asses on mute.

Doing a wave during a boring match is also more respectful then chanting "BORING" at the wrestlers too. Many arenas do that. They didn't want to say that match sucked, so they had some fun, big deal.

Shit, Austin back in the day was a pure badass, yet the fans cheered him, thus forcing him face. Was that bad?? The fans can cheer and root for who they wish to. Plain and simple.
Yes they do what they want, but they don't really do what they think. That really ticks me off. I can tell you now, not everyone in that building hated Edge, or Eugene. They thought "I want to be liek at WMX8 and make fun of these guys." and they booed. I can respect people maybe yelling out stuff like "We Miss Nick!" or something at Eugene, but booing the character seems a little off. Maybe give him no reaction rather than booing?

The wave was disrespectful. Like 'em or not, these guys work their asses off. If they really wnated to be bizarre they could have chanted "J-B-L" or "Or-lan-do" to help the time fly.

Yes, Austin was turned face, but I don't like the way people do that without really showing their true opinions. I don't mind seeing wrestlers cheered, but I really find it disrespectful when wrestlers get booed when it is not intended.
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Some of you guys make me laugh.
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The show was ruined by fans reactions, thats just rediculous.
Not as ridiculous as it sounds. Thinking back on Summerslam I think of three things. 1) Orton beginning his run, 2) London & Kidman getting their chance & 3) A disresectful crowd. This sort of makes me look back a little more dully on the event.

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I predicted Edge would get booed in Toronto, its a simple case of him not being over here. The fans weren't into him, and I bet them making a big deal of being from Toronto got more fans to boo him. Why? Because its so lame when they try to get a pop for a guy just because he's from the city you live in. So the fans turned on that. Not to mention the fact that Jericho is far more entertaining than Edge, and as such he got cheered.
So did I. I would have thought they'd have goback to his entertaining roots and have him cut a decent promo on how great it is to be back. I was still expecting "You Think You Know Me" to play during the match, and Christian to come strolling down to a MASSIVE reaction.

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Eugene is an insult to the intelligence of anyone over the age of 10. I thought we were past the crazy George Steele type gimmicks, apparently not. So the fans, who have been told for the last 7/8 years that that kind of stuff is passe turned on the charcter. Again, to me thats no big shock. And again, how does is it ruin a show just because people choose to cheer for guys they like instead of guys the WWE tells you to cheer. Was Wrestlemania X-Seven ruined when the crowd cheered for Austin beating down on Rock after it was clear he was with McMahon? No, the fans did what they did, and it was a great segment. Back to Eugene what happens in 3/4 months whenever Eugene turns heel, I guess it will be okay to boo, but if its done now, its a sign of the devil.
I disagree. A disabled character getting a chance in life? I don't call that lack of intelligence. Sure it may seem really corny when Triple H rips into him avoiding the "R" word. But I don't think anyone can deny getting behind Nick's work in the character, and giving him a big thumbs up. The people at Summerslam didn't give Nick a thumbs up, they basically said "We hate you! You're a better wrestler than 90% of the roster, but you don't deserve the respect that comes with working your ass off!". William Regal, Triple H and Eugene Dinsmore deserve respect, not getting booed because they don't want to get behind the underdog.

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JBL gets heat everyone on the 'net, apparently a lot of those same fans went to the ACC and let the WWE know that JBL as champ doesn't fly with them. Ive come to accept Bradshaw as an act, but I can understand why a lot of fans see him as a joke, and as such see the WWE Championship as a joke.
JBL's recent work has been anything but a joke. The fans take him seriously, but he's the heel so he gets booed. What I didn't like was how a guy like The Undertaker gets an ovation anywhere in the world, but in Toronto, he gets a Mexican wave.

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Angle got cheered over Eddie, hey thats just a case of the fans loving Angle, Eddie was just in a tough spot.
I am behind heels getting cheered. The whole point of this Summerslam match was to have the fans get into the work of the wrestlers, not their characters (hence the handshake). Both guys deserve everything they got at Summerslam.

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Aside from that, I dont see the problem. All this heat on the net towards the fans is hilarious to me. You all sound like you are auditioning for jobs with the WWE PR staff. Maybe the WWE should try to use separate entrances and have heels come out of one side and faces the other, and demand that the fans follow their instructions and cheer for who they tell to cheer for. I remember a time when the WWE promoted freedom of speech, I guess some of you guys are no longer for that notion.
I don't have a problem with fans not cheering, I have a problem with them thinking they're cool for being different and ruined these guys nights by making them feel like crap. I can honestly image Adam Copeland and Nick Dinsmore being hurt by that. They work their asses off and they're booed despite being spelled out as the guys who just love to do what they do. Fans have no real reason to boo them other than not liking them, or thinking they're cool by doing it. I can tell you now, Eugene and Edge are failry popular guys. Sure there will always be one or two in the crowd booing Eugene, and yes Edge has become stale as the psychotic face type character (give the guy the mic for crying out loud!), but no arena will boo them out of thebuilding other than Toronto. The WWE allow free speech, to allow the fans to respect the guys who respect them, and to boo the guys that are built up as disrespecting S.O.B.s. They will never tell you you can't do something, but I seriously think any crowd that gang up on guys doing their jobs to the best of their ability are just plain rude.

I'm sure you'd be one of the many on the 'net complaining if Bret Hart returned and gave a fairwell speech and heard "Bret Sucks" or "HBK" chants.

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I'm sure you'd be one of the many on the 'net complaining if Bret Hart returned and gave a fairwell speech and heard "Bret Sucks" or "HBK" chants.
I completely agree with your post. And when I was watching the ppv with my buddies, and hearing "You Screwed Bret" chants during the main event, we were thinking that if Bret would come back, we would be chanting "HBK" or "Bret Sucks". But in all reality, that's probably not a good idea, so we don't end up stooping down to Canada's level.
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3 things

1)Edge is not as popular as he once one.He has been getting booed everywhere.Hence the reason there has been talks of a heel turn.It could also be the fact there were tones of Y2J in the crowd.He got a solid pop at his entrance

2)You make it sound like Eugene should not be booed because he "speicial".In that case shame on everyone who booed Kurt Angle when he was in a wheelchair.Oh wait that was an act.oh shit so is Eugene so GET OVER IT.You know what sure Nick is an awesome person for the role but even im getting a little tired.If the dont do something soon Nick Dinsmore will vanish quicker than Bastion Booger or get stuck in a lame ass gimmick wearing a mask.

3)As for the wave.Its done in baseball and is not shown as a sign of disrespect there so why should it be any different.When people purchase tickets for 80 dollers the earn the right to have fun.The match was dull so the fans improvised.After 10 times around the arena it stopped.
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