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Old 09-26-2004, 03:17 PM   #1
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WWE's Biggest mistake this year?
What is In your opinion is the worst mistake the WWE have made this year?

Making Rico gay? De-pushing Benoit? a particular PPV Card being pathetic?

name any one thing that the WWE has done wrong this year.



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Old 09-26-2004, 03:18 PM   #2
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Old 09-26-2004, 03:20 PM   #3
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Old 09-26-2004, 03:22 PM   #4
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Randy Orton face turn so soon and so crappily.
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Old 09-26-2004, 03:34 PM   #6
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Old 09-26-2004, 03:55 PM   #10
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For me they dropped the ball with the Draft Lottery, that had so much potential to get new feuds going and change up the matches.

WWE Fucked that up aswell
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Old 09-26-2004, 04:02 PM   #11
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Randy Orton face turn so soon and so crappily.
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Old 09-26-2004, 04:21 PM   #12
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Randy Orton face turn so soon and so crappily.
On top of that, they fucked up the title run by doing so...

If he had held onto the belt atleast a couple months and stayed heel, then was either turned on by Evolution or he himself turned on Evolution, THEN had Hunter take the title, it wouldnt have been so bad... They really dropped the ball on the title run...

My answer is Orton's title run...
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Old 09-26-2004, 05:03 PM   #13
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Old 09-26-2004, 05:06 PM   #15
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I don't see what's so great about RVD...
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Old 09-26-2004, 05:13 PM   #16
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I don't see what's so great about RVD...
Even as a huge RVD fan, I see your point. The WWE has forced him to drastically tone down his style since he came to the company, and these days he pretty much hits the same 5 spots every match.

Biggest mistake this year? JBL as champion. He's an absolute embarassment to the WWE Title, and brings down the level of Smackdown tremendously.

The Diva Search, Eugene, and Kane/Lita are all pretty bad too.
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Old 09-26-2004, 05:21 PM   #17
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Hmmm... well I admit that I've never seen RVD in ECW. In the WWE he seems to do the same moves every time, he seems to botch some of them, and his punches are absolutely terrible. Annnnd he sells his frogsplash too much. You don't see Eddie flopping around on the mat after hitting it.
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Old 09-26-2004, 05:25 PM   #18
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Hmmm... well I admit that I've never seen RVD in ECW. In the WWE he seems to do the same moves every time, he seems to botch some of them, and his punches are absolutely terrible. Annnnd he sells his frogsplash too much. You don't see Eddie flopping around on the mat after hitting it.
You'd have loved him in ECW, he was great, lots of charisma, did great moves all the time and was more hardcore.

Biggest mistake I think, like someone said, was the draft lottery, that could have been much better then it was.
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Old 09-26-2004, 05:28 PM   #19
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Old 09-26-2004, 05:30 PM   #20
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Old 09-26-2004, 05:43 PM   #21
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Top 5 in order:

1. JBL doing the Nazi salute at a house show
(I completely understand that he was just playing a heel character to get heel heat but he definitely crossed the line that time even if it wasn't scripted, the guy thinks he did nothing wrong in real life and he should realize that he just made a major mistake)
2. The Diva Search
(all stupid boring shit, and a waste of TV space)
3. Giving Benoit the belt
(I'm serious, he was a boring as all hell champ, don't know why everyone likes him too much, I'm glad he's falling down the card)
4. Vince announcing the Eugene vs. Bischoff match for Taboo Tuesday
(WWE announced it as a huge announcement, it wasn't that huge and nothing special. If Vince was to fire the Bisch off RAW GM and bring in Stone Cold, now that would be HUGE!!!)
5. Shaving Molly Holly's head at Wm-20
(Even Molly didn't like her bald look and now she's letting her hair grow back out. She looks nice with short hair and I'm a huge Molly fan.)

I'm not going to bash turning Rico gay, Eugene and the Lita/Kane storylines, because I find nothing wrong with them, I find the Rico being gay, Eugene, and the Lita/Kane storylines to be all very entertaining in my book.
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Old 09-26-2004, 05:56 PM   #22
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5. Shaving Molly Holly's head at Wm-20
(Even Molly didn't like her bald look and now she's letting her hair grow back out. She looks nice with short hair and I'm a huge Molly fan.)
Actually, from what I hear, she agreed to do it because her mother (or someone) had cancer and that she wanted to do it out of respect... She was orignally going to donate it, but it was too short...
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Old 09-26-2004, 06:01 PM   #23
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The year 2004. They couldn't even make Undertaker successfuly old school. The USA title is a waste of time and bodged, what are Hurricane and Tajiri actually doin' on RAW, and why did 2004 become, "Year of the Void" and swallow up so many good superstars?

So, in my opinion, WWE bodged the whole year. Thank you please.
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Old 09-26-2004, 06:03 PM   #24
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Having a babyface Randy Orton as World Champion is the worst mistake WWE made this year.
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Old 09-26-2004, 06:03 PM   #25
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Pretty much all that has been mentioned. I was so psyched for the lottery, and it was pretty sucky.

Wasn't Rico always gay though? Not how he is now but I always assumed that was his character, even back with Billy and Chuck.
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Old 09-26-2004, 06:12 PM   #26
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Wasn't Rico always gay though? Not how he is now but I always assumed that was his character, even back with Billy and Chuck.
Yep, Rico was always gay, just like with WWE never mentioning Eugene being retarded, WWE never mentioned Rico being gay. I guess they do it for the respect of real life mentally retarded and gay people.
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Old 09-26-2004, 06:17 PM   #27
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Yep, Rico was always gay, just like with WWE never mentioning Eugene being retarded, WWE never mentioned Rico being gay. I guess they do it for the respect of real life mentally retarded and gay people.
They completely acknowledged that Billy and Chuck were gay (Or atleast playing gays)... Billy Gunn said, and I quote, "We arent GAY"...

We dont know if Rico is truly gay, or if he is actually Metrosexual...

Same with Eugene, just because he's mentally challanged doesnt mean he's classified as "retarded"...
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JBL as champ is the biggest mistake - he has added no credibility to the title whatsoever. It really has been the most ridiculous push in recent memory
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Having a no talented redneck posing as a NY broker as WWE Champion, ending the run of one of the most talented workers the WWE has.
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Ultimo's slip was a pretty big mistake

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You're lucky I can't ban people anymore.

Also, how come no one ever mentions Goldberg's 8796579867988 slips on Raw and his botched entrance at Summerslam last year?
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Also, how come no one ever mentions Goldberg's 8796579867988 slips on Raw and his botched entrance at Summerslam last year?
I would have if it happened this year
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Old 09-26-2004, 07:00 PM   #34
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Some of those Raw slips were this year.
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Truthfully, I never noticed any of his slips, only the one at SummerSlam...
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Old 09-26-2004, 07:34 PM   #36
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It's impossible to center it on one specific thing.

Though all the ills with WWE right now are attributed to two things about which they really need to stop being stubborn:

1. "Smash TV" with regards to rushed angles and pushes

2. The home-grown talent bias.

This has always been WWE's problem since it started acquiring wrestlers of other feds.

The only time they really, really put effort into making a non-WWE talent a true "superstar" was Stone Cold Steve Austin... arguably the greatest draw in WWE history. And guess what? It paid off!

There is also HHH... but he didn't really have even a moderate profile in WCW in his gimmicks... never the less...he's been an exception as well. While he's squandered his rightfully-earned place with backstage politics and ridiculous angles...

...The Rock and Kurt Angle, really...have been the only two since Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart to be home grown successes.

Ever since those two, they have jumped the gun. (And even so, one could argue they jumped the gun with those two -- but those two were just too strong in their respective fields to ignore.)

While I don't think that kind of success can be duplicated any time soon, they should really forget the fact that people like RVD, Booker T, Jericho, Guerrero, and Benoit got their start outside of WWE and give them their due. Sure, Benoit had a respectable title reign... and one that thankfully meant the repeated jobbing of HHH, but to throw it away to prematurely give Orton his push before he was ready for it, sucked. Still, it was nowhere near as bad as Chris Jericho's title reign. It was almost last-days-of-WCW-esque...the way he was booked. Eddie Guerrero made a believer out of me when he held the WWE title on SmackDown...and like Benoit, he got his win over a guy who got way too much push for his own good (Lesnar)...but also like Benoit, he lost his title to an unproven midcarder (and in Orton's defense... he's way better than JBL)?!! JBL is getting a Jericho-like title reign, but surviving the likes of Undertaker and Eddie Guerrero doesn't seem like your usual joke reign. Meanwhile, John Cena, SmackDown's obvious choice for the top slot, is on his way to Stale City because he can't get out of the glass ceiling. (He should get another finisher, first though. Even if it means he just turns the F-U into the "Yebisu Drop")...

every time I see WWE start something great (Tazz's possible IC run against Benoit and the million heel turns he had, the return of ECW, Randy Orton's slow, but steady run to the top, Booker T's face run)... they abort it over something ridiculous related to the top two reasons stated above.

If they'd get over those two things, we'd have some classic television.

I don't know if it's even possible for a wrestling promotion to have some kind of bias that screws them over, however.
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The year 2004. They couldn't even make Undertaker successfuly old school. The USA title is a waste of time and bodged, what are Hurricane and Tajiri actually doin' on RAW, and why did 2004 become, "Year of the Void" and swallow up so many good superstars?

So, in my opinion, WWE bodged the whole year. Thank you please.
Did you just botch the word "botch"? You're worse than Lita.
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WWE Champion JBL
The Undertaker as undead biker cowboy
Kane and Lita
Randy Orton's transition title reign
The RAW Diva Search
Poor cruiserweight booking (I'm including the release of Jamie Noble)
Ric Flair's pep talk to Shane Helms not going anywhere
Putting Hardcore Holly in a pay-per-view main event
Rob Van Dam, jobber to the stars
The Mordecai situation
Spoiling Taboo Tuesday
^ Making the first "interactive" match determined by Vince
Multiple PPVs per month

That's just a few of the many things they've blown this year
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