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Old 09-29-2004, 09:14 PM   #1
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Discuss & Debate: Kane is the Most Misused superstar in the WWE
There's currently a thread active discussing whether or not Shawn Michaels is the greatest performer in the WWE, which was created by SirRoundSound. I've decided to start another thread, discussing who the most misused superstar is, and I feel very passionately that it's Kane. Val Venis & Paul London in a close second. Maybe even Molly Holly in there somewhere.

Anyway, let's discuss everyone's favourite Big Red Machine, and whteher or not the word "misused" should be used next to his name with greatest extremity.

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Old 09-29-2004, 09:16 PM   #2
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Disagree...RVD is the most misused character. Kane is misused but not the most. Id also throw Benoit in there to. But deffinatly R.V.D.
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Old 09-29-2004, 09:20 PM   #3
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I think we're forgetting that 75% of both rosters are misused. Kane is up there, but like I said on another post, he's not really much of a wrestler. He's big and strong and intimidating, but he doesn't wrestle. I'm not saying they use him properly -- far from it. But it's hard to single anyone out as THE most misused guy on the roster.
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Old 09-29-2004, 09:21 PM   #4
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Old 09-29-2004, 09:22 PM   #5
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I would say Randy Orton because of is early push. He should still hold the IC-title and Y2J should be the champ. There could of been a great feud with Orton and Shelton. 2 young superstar it would of been great.
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Old 09-29-2004, 09:24 PM   #6
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I'd say Chris Jericho is the missused. Even though he was the first Undisputed Champion and main evented Wrestlemania X8 I still think that he shouldn't of gone back down to IC level even if his reign at top was not one of the greatest
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Part of me thinks yes and part of me thinks no. Kane's has appeared in more than his fair share of Main Events, and has held the WWE title before (albeit for a day) which is more than what most of the roster will never achieve, but I do think he should have had at least one really solid run at the top because his character definately has longevity and he is really over, despite him not having the best wrestling ability around.
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Old 09-29-2004, 09:31 PM   #9
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I agree with you to say he is misused but the most misused that's saying a bit too much when you got RVD,Chris Beniot, Regal, and many others being misused, so I would say he isn't the most misused because there are alot of misused talent on Raw and Smackdown.
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Old 09-29-2004, 09:31 PM   #10
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I believe Kane to be the MVP of the WWE right now, in the amount of feuds and crappy storylines he's held together over the last year. I'd say he has one of the best attitudes towards the business in the WWE right now, he's been given some dreadful stuff to do over the past few years yet he just gets on with it and dosen't complain,

But as for the most misused Roster Member I do have to say it's Y2J for me at the moment, he outclasses 98% of the WWE roster in every department but yet still lurks around the Tag/IC scene with Tyson Botchkick and the like, truely a shame.
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Old 09-29-2004, 09:34 PM   #11
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I agree with Kane being misused, they try to push him as the big monster, but they keep making Kane look weak with these stupid storylines they give him.
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Wow, I can't believe the guys I forgot are being misused. I think guys like RVD and Chris Jericho are making the most money they can right now. I think Chris Jericho and RVD would sell more merchandise if they got pushed to the main event scene, but Kane could really do something for the company if he was pushed.

Kane was a main eventer for a short time, and he proved it is tempting to really put him in that lead role. William Regal is another guy, who I think could really do something money wise with the WWE. But like RVD and Y2J, I think it gets limited to merchandise sales.

Benoit appears to be refocused into the main event scene again, so he's out. Orton as well, but they really misused his character. I really think that the WWE could use Heat and Velocity a bit better with their talent. They have three hours a week, why not use them to their fullest?
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Old 09-29-2004, 09:54 PM   #13
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Regal was pushed to the main event a few times in the past but he was depushed many times. It looks like WWE is trying to push Regal into the main event, now that they got him feuding with Evolution.
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Old 09-29-2004, 10:12 PM   #14
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i give you another missused wrestler and it is bigshow, when he came to the wwe vince paid him alot of money for a long term contract. they pushed him a little while then sent him to ovw then he came back gets belt then he is gone 4 months no reason still geting paid.
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Old 09-29-2004, 10:20 PM   #15
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I dont think that Kane is the most misused superstar but I do agree they dont use him the way he should. Since his arrival he has had some good points and bad points in his career. Unlike someone say for instance RVD who has been the biggest star basically since he arrived during the Invasion angle who really hasnt been given the chance that the fans know he deserves.

I like Kane and I feel that he should be used all the time. I think he is one of the best out there and the character is something that can be worked with. I just feel that WWE moves him around to much. Now when he had the whole monster thing going when he first showed up that showed that they could use him right. But recently he hasnt been used in the way the fans would appreciate it. I like what they did with the Kane and Lita angle and all but we all want to see Kane just kick everything and everybodys ass like he was the monster he was before.
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Old 09-29-2004, 11:51 PM   #16
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RVD is the most misused guy in the WWE, it's common knowledge. How the WWE can ignore the guy when he gets one of the biggest pops for the 3 minutes of ringtime he's allowed.

Kane is in the same boat. He's jobbed so much lately it's hard to consider him a real threat to the World Title for a while.
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Old 09-30-2004, 01:59 AM   #17
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I disagree with RVD being the most misused, simply because he's not quite as over as everyone thinks. I have heard fairly quiet crowds for this guy. I respect him, and I respect the reaction he gets 99.9% of the time, but pushing him on popularity could backfire. I'd rather see him used a "scumbag" heel. I could really see them doing something with RVD and either The FBI or The Dudleys.

I'd agree with The Big Show. He's the biggest guy in wrestling, and he's got a fairly good mind for entertainment and promos. Let him speak and play the big guy who won't quit chasing after the title. Let him have emotions, and let him feel pain, just have him bigger than everyone else.
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Old 09-30-2004, 02:31 AM   #18
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RVD is gay. Kane is the most misused/under used.
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Old 09-30-2004, 04:13 AM   #19
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Kane is certainly misused. He had so much potental when he took the mask off. He once again became the uncontrolable monster who would destroy anything in his path and no one could stop him. Around that time I hadn't been as interested in RAw as I was then for a while. Then he went into that feud with Shane which made him look weak. He should have destroyed Shane and then moved on to feuds with Jericho, RVD and Booker T wo were both still on Raw. Then maybe give him the belt and a long reign with each challenger coming along but they jsut couldn't beat him because he was to much. Then say a guy for arguements sake Benoit wrestles Kane at a big PPV beats Kane in a close fought match which therefore sends Kane even further over the edge and continues destroying everyone like he did when he first came to the WWE.
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I think the bandwith for this thread is misused.

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RVD is gay. Kane is the most misused/under used.
How you can say Kane is "under used" is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard in terms of wrestling. Remember a time not too long ago where Kane was involed in around 2.5 feuds/angles? Even now, you KNOW you will see Kane on Raw each and every week. Kane is used, and Kane is used often.

As far as him being "misused", one would have to truly define the term, which is obtuse to a perverse degree, in my opinion. Pretty much any angle/storyline is a gamble to run with. There's no way of telling what will or won't get over. You just have to keep plugging and plugging until something garners heat. I don't believe that it is the WWE's intention for anything to fail when a plan is put into action, and it is both presumptuous and pointless for us to think we have all the answers. Hindsight, after all, is 20/20.

Right now, Kane is one of my favorite characters on Raw, and it is obvious that they are making an attempt to do SOMETHING with him. They're not just letting him sit there, Chuck Palumbo style (who is more along the lines of "under used"). They're giving him storylines and they're giving him feuds, all in hopes that something will click with the fans. And honestly? I think it's working. Ever since the unmasking of Kane, I think he has been more over than ever. The Lita Pregnacy angle? No, I am not a big fan of, and the reactions that the segments had been receiving would lead me to believe that not many people were at all. But I think the WWE noticed. Therefore, she lost the baby.

Bottom line is this...they're trying, folks. The WWE is REALLY trying to entertain us. If you don't believe that, then there's not much of a point in watching. The question is...will you let them entertain you?
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Disagree...RVD is the most misused character. Kane is misused but not the most.
RVD is misused to a greater degree, but Kane is misused more often.
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How you can say Kane is "under used" is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard in terms of wrestling. Remember a time not too long ago where Kane was involed in around 2.5 feuds/angles? Even now, you KNOW you will see Kane on Raw each and every week. Kane is used, and Kane is used often.
And Kane should be out even more, just beating people up for no reason, because he is psycho or something. I don't know. All i know is that my TV doesn't get enough of him. Maybe he should be on Smackdown all the time too.
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Kane is amazing. He is completely misused. You want to see him in the ring more than you want to see in on the mic. He can wrestle, and has proven that. One day he's billed as an indestructable, unstable, monster. The next day he's losing to Edge. The next day, he's indestructable again. The WWE has been very inconsistent with Kane. He's done a lot of horrible angles and storylines, and has done them well (Even though some of them have been stupid).

The WWE (Now Raw) is better when Kane is in the main event, or main event picture, indestructable, unstable, as he was for his first year in the WWE.
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I agree with Dorkchop. So his mic skills may not be the best, but when he gets in the ring, he MORE than makes up for it. His feud with Austin in 1998 (short-lived though it was) was a good feud. It showed him as this uncaring, merciless monster who did what he had to to emerge with the title.

In the Corporation, he still had this gimmick, but he was starting to show emotion, like when he blasted Chyna with the fireball and helped her, when Chyna hit him with a chair at WrestleMania XV to rejoin DX.

Then he teamed with X-Pac. More emotion. Then X-Pac turned on him. Then he went out with Tori. Then she dumped him for X-Pac. He was talking more. All showing this emotional side. The only emotion Kane should have is anger. Then he turned on Undertaker before SummerSlam 2000 (the start of his costume changes). No emotion. He put Undertaker through the ring. (That, by the way, I wouldn't mind seeing him do again, maybe Batista to show his strength and that he is a threat to the World Title)

Then he joined forces with Taker before the Rumble. Then it was the inVasion. Not exactly emotion, but he was trusting people.

He needs to be angry, he needs to be a loner, and in my opinion he needs hair.
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I got to disagree with the comment about Kane on the mic. I quite frankly think he is one the better guys on the mic on Raw.
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ya a lot of people don't give Kane the respect he deserves on the mic. He is very underrated in that department.
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Disagree...RVD is the most misused character. Kane is misused but not the most. Id also throw Benoit in there to. But deffinatly R.V.D.
Agreed,RVD should have been Smackdown Champ by now
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