Smackdown Spoilers

**Aussie Skier** · 10-12-2004, 11:29 PM

From rajah.com

Smackdown and Velocity - 10/12/04
By: John McHero, rajah.com reader

Smackdown

Theordore Long stated that Cena got injured (punctured kidney) in a fight in a club after SD! last week and will be out indefinately. The announced Battle Royal for US title #1 contendership TONIGHT!

RVD defeated Renee Dupree (before match Kenzo sang and then was sent to back)

Billy Kidman defeated Charlie Haas (who had knee taped up. Kidman worked over knee and went up for SSP. Jackie Gayda ran down and pleaded with him not to do it but he did anyway. Stretcher came out for Charlie but he hobbled to the back in the end)

Theodore Long told Heyman that him and Heidenriech would have to come out and publicly apologise for last weeks actions.

Battle Royal for the US #1 contenders scene featuring lots of guys. Rey won eliminating Angle last.

Carltio and Rey ran into each other in the back and Carlito challenged Rey to have match TONIGHT. Rey agreed and then got cheap-shotted from behind by Carlito.

JBL defeated Hardcore Holly to retain title.

Heidenrich came out to �apologise� and went mad lying down. Taker came out after quite a while to an insane pop and they had a quick match. Taker won with Tombstone.

Carlito defeated Rey to retain title using the ropes to cheat.

Eddie vs. Luther went to DQ when Jindrack interefered. Angle then came down but Show made the save and cleared the house with Eddie to end the show.

Great show, good crowd. Taker was by far the most over.

**ColdwaVer** · 10-12-2004, 11:58 PM

Sounds good, could do with some details on the JBL:Holly match though. And wtf is the use of having a BR for #1 contendership, and then get the match over with right away? I guess they'll have a rematch, but still, that's pretty dumb.

**Hardkore Kidd J** · 10-13-2004, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdwaVer

Sounds good, could do with some details on the JBL:Holly match though. And wtf is the use of having a BR for #1 contendership, and then get the match over with right away? I guess they'll have a rematch, but still, that's pretty dumb.

I agree totally they better have a rematch hopefully at Survivor Series or something.

**Corkscrewed** · 10-13-2004, 02:30 AM

Yes! The Heidi/Taker program is over!!!

Already.

I hope.

**John la Rock** · 10-13-2004, 02:55 AM

thank god Crapcore didn't win the title. but then again JBL is still champ so it's a lose lose situation

**Cruiserweight 3:16** · 10-13-2004, 08:41 AM

I'm not surprised that Taker was the most over with the crowd. I remember going to a house show in Manchester last year and the crowd popped big style for him

**SuperSlim** · 10-13-2004, 10:41 AM

Why does Rey have to win? that just sucks. There are many other guys that coulda won and challenged for the U.S. title other than Rey. I mean he has his own division for cryin out loud. He owns the Cruisierweight division.

Well as far as JBL winnin, I was startin to like this whole JBL thing- not as champion but just the character, until he walked out goin against Hardcore, I mean that is just weak. Then he finally beats him up? Of course he was.

Hopefully that Taker/Heidinsomethinrich thing is over cause it seemed sucky from the get go.

Overall it sounds a lot better than Raw. But that isn't sayin much.

LK · 10-13-2004, 10:45 AM

Sounds good

**HankScorpio** · 10-13-2004, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cruiserweight 3:16

I'm not surprised that Taker was the most over with the crowd. I remember going to a house show in Manchester last year and the crowd popped big style for him

Yeah, I was at the house show in Nottingham on Monday night, the crowd (and Me

) were losing their minds when he came out

**Londoner** · 10-13-2004, 12:22 PM

Doesn't sound that good to me, i mean what a title match the bookers gave us JBl v hardcore holly, WOW I must see that match! *cough* Vince Mcmahon really does know how to rip the fans off with this shit booking doesn't he?

**VonErich Lives** · 10-13-2004, 12:27 PM

So, what was the point of Booker T droping the title to Cena just to have Cena give it to Carlito Crap in his first match...

people wonder why Smackdown is the "2nd show". or is it 3rd, I may have to see how velocity is doing these days.

**Astley316** · 10-13-2004, 12:58 PM

I actully went to smackdown, and have to say it was a greate show,

**Eunos** · 10-13-2004, 02:15 PM

Id sooner have the belt round JBL then Hardcore Holly.

**The Answer** · 10-13-2004, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Eunos

Id sooner have the belt round JBL then Hardcore Holly.

That's a gimme.But still that WWE Championship is losing credibility with each JBL title defense

**Eunos** · 10-13-2004, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadManWalkin

That's a gimme.But still that WWE Championship is losing credibility with each JBL title defense

Im not saying it's a good thing. But when i think who out of those 2 i would rather see it on i think Bradshaw just wins.

Ah well heres hoping Booker gets that Push and wins it at Survivour series or something.

**Loose Cannon** · 10-13-2004, 04:18 PM

lol, they had Taker pin Heidenreich? WTF are they doing? Do they want people to care about that match for Survivor Series?

**John la Rock** · 10-13-2004, 05:13 PM

Maybe Taker/Heidencrap is over

Taker moves on to wrestle someone likeKurt Angle and Heidencrap gets I dunno RELEASED

**Corkscrewed** · 10-13-2004, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

lol, they had Taker pin Heidenreich? WTF are they doing? Do they want people to care about that match for Survivor Series?

See my first post.

Also, did JBL actually PIN a non-jobber??? Because if so, that would be the first credible win he's had since picking up the title.

**Tornado** · 10-13-2004, 07:07 PM

The results are a bit sketchy, so I wrote up my own:

Velocity

WWE CruiserWeight Championship
Spike Dudley v Scotty 2 Hotty
Nice pop for Scotty, opening match so the crowd where up for it. I shouted out "Spikes a pussy", but I don't think it was loud enough to be picked up. Pretty straight forward match, Spike gets the win with the help of the ropes.

Orlando Jordan v Funaki
Pretty good heat for Orlando, nice pop for Funaki. Typical big man v little man match, Orlando picks up the win.

Torrie Wilson makes an appearance to hype up the crowd. Pretty pointless.

Bubba Ray Dudley v Rico
Great pop for Rico, pretty over in the UK. I couldn't see much of this match due to some kid in front of me with a big "I HATE THE DUDLEYS" sign. Bubba picks up the win with a Bubba Bomb after D-Von tripped Rico.

Smackdown
Smackdown opens with a backstage segment with Long and the Smackdown roster. Long announced that due to a bar fight (bullshit) that Cena will NOT be in the UK tonight (MAJOR heat as the arena was full of Cena signs and shirts). Long then announces a #1 contender match for the U.S Title...a Battle Royal...decent pop for that annoucement.
The opening video plays, followed by the pyro and the crowd go nuts. Welcome to Smackdown.

Rob Van Dam v Rene Dupree
Nice opener, RVD got a nice pop. I was digging the mix of Dupree's and Suzukis music, and Suzuki singing "Livin' in America" got a good laugh from the crowd. Pretty simple match, nothing spectacular. RVD picks up the win after the 5*.

Billy Kidman v Charlie Hass
Hass is selling a knee injury, which Kidman worked over. Not much offence from Hass. Kidman goes up to the top for a SSP, which brings out what i've read was Miss Jackie, but I swear this was Dawn Marie. Kidman ignores her, hits the SSP onto Hass's legs for the win. After the match, Hass refuses medical help, and walks out with his arms over a ref, and Dawn. Major pop for Charlie, he put his had on Dawn Marie's boob, and left it there all the way up the ramp.

Backstage Segment involving Reigns and The Sun's Page 3 Girls. Damn, I hate the British Accent when spoken after an American.

Battle Royal for the #1 Contendership for the U.S Title
Kurt Angle, Mark Jindrak, Luther Reigns, Scotty 2 Hotty, Orlando Jordan, RVD, Rey Mysterio, Bubba, D-Von, Kidman, Funaki, Kenzo Suzuki, Rene Dupree, Rico, Eddie Gurrero, Nunzio and Johnny Stamboli.
Comes down to Kurt and Rey. Rey picks up the win after some close near-eliminations.

Backstage Segment with Rey Mysterio. Carlito challages Rey for the belt, tonight. Rey accepts.

WWE Championship - Hardcore Match
Hardcore Holly v John Bradshaw Layfield (c)
I turned my back for this match. I gather JBL won after a chairshot.

In-Ring Segement - Paul Heyman and Heidenreich
Paul Heyman apologises for Heidenreichs behaviour, and forces him to read an apology. Heidenreich then goes insane, and starts hitting himself, and lies down in the ring...cut to commercial.
As we come back on-air, Heidenreich is still in the ring, he the calls out The Undertaker, who complies by turning the lights out, and we hear the gongs. Crowd goes nuts, and we have a match. Undertaker wins after a well received Tombstone.

United States Championship
Rey Mysterio vs Carlito Carribean Cool (c)
Decent bck and forth match, with the usual high spots from Rey. CCC retains with hel from the ropes.

Eddie Guerrero v Luther Reigns
Eddie wins via DQ after Jindrak runs in. Kurt soon follows, and a beatdown begins. Big Show makes the save, and cleans house to bring us to the end of Smackdown.

**RGWhat316** · 10-13-2004, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSlim

Well as far as JBL winnin, I was startin to like this whole JBL thing- not as champion but just the character, until he walked out goin against Hardcore, I mean that is just weak. Then he finally beats him up? Of course he was.

I actually agree with you here. I am a fan of the JBL character, but I also was pissed when he just walked out of the match with Hardcore Holly last week. He was actually being a decent heel, such as calling out Taker, even though it was a setup, but then he walks away from Hardcore of all people.

**Dave Youell** · 10-14-2004, 05:18 AM

They wont air the Taker match, I garentee it.

Look out for the 'cool' guy in the 6th row behind cole with a TPWW sign

**Champion of Europa** · 10-14-2004, 11:52 PM

Taker/Heidenreich didn't get aired.

**rob11** · 10-15-2004, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Youell

They wont air the Taker match, I garentee it.

Look out for the 'cool' guy in the 6th row behind cole with a TPWW sign

i saw it

**Azriel** · 10-15-2004, 12:15 AM

Why didn't they air the Taker match?

**The CyNick** · 10-15-2004, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by trnbuckle

Why didn't they air the Taker match?

You need to pay to see that at SurvSer

**damn tekno** · 10-15-2004, 01:23 AM

WHAT THE SHIT NO TAKER!!!

Though the Holly/JBL match wasn't so bad, it was a brawling match through and through but ofcourse JBL needed Virgil, err Orlando to help him set up Hardcore. Wicked Chairshot!

**The Answer** · 10-15-2004, 01:46 AM

Did they air the segment with Heyman and Long?.If they did then it makes no sense why they wouldn't air the taker/heidenreich segment.It was dawn marie not jackie gayda that came done during the kidman/Haas match.

**SammyG** · 10-15-2004, 01:48 AM

holy crap did anyone see Haas's hand clearly on Dawn Marie's boob!!!?!?!?

**The Answer** · 10-15-2004, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SammyG

holy crap did anyone see Haas's hand clearly on Dawn Marie's boob!!!?!?!?

I was just about to post that he was clearly coping a feel.He may be in trouble with Gayda

**damn tekno** · 10-15-2004, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadManWalkin

I was just about to post that he was clearly coping a feel.He may be in trouble with Gayda

That was great! Cleanly grabbing titty.

**El Santo** · 10-15-2004, 06:23 PM

I saw the sign, Dave. Coolness. It was impossible to miss ... Tazz and Cole were talking about something or other, and the TPWW.net sign was right in between 'em.

Hmmm... I wonder why the 'Taker squash wasn't shown on TV.

And I caught the Haas thing as well. It looked really weird; the way his hand was positioned, I thought maybe Dawn had suffered a wardrobe malfunction or something. Which, um, is much better for one Charlie Haas. That is, until he gets home and Jackie has something to say about it....

**Mayo** · 10-15-2004, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadManWalkin

I was just about to post that he was clearly coping a feel.He may be in trouble with Gayda

It is probably part of the angle that will take place between Gayda, Dawn Marie, and Haas where she will try to break up their relationship or something.

**Mayo** · 10-15-2004, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by El Santo

I saw the sign, Dave. Coolness. It was impossible to miss ... Tazz and Cole were talking about something or other, and the TPWW.net sign was right in between 'em.

Hmmm... I wonder why the 'Taker squash wasn't shown on TV.

And I caught the Haas thing as well. It looked really weird; the way his hand was positioned, I thought maybe Dawn had suffered a wardrobe malfunction or something. Which, um, is much better for one Charlie Haas. That is, until he gets home and Jackie has something to say about it....

They probably didn't show the Taker squash due to time constraints. I guess they didn't want to cut anything else out of the show

**Mayo** · 10-15-2004, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Youell

They wont air the Taker match, I garentee it.

Look out for the 'cool' guy in the 6th row behind cole with a TPWW sign

LOL I saw it right away and marked out. Nice job

**El Santo** · 10-15-2004, 09:46 PM

An idea that just recently struck me as kind of odd:

Tazz and Michael Cole were trying to sell the idea that the hardcore match for the WWE championship was in Hardcore Holly's favor because it was his kind of match. Later, JBL would look upset in his interview. He complained that it was unfair that he was the only WWE champion to ever defend his title in a hardcore match.

My thought:

Didn't Bradshaw hold the Hardcore Championship only a short time before it was retired?

And he held the Hardcore Championship more recently than Hardcore Holly, which gives him a distinct advantage since it means he'd have had more recent experience.

Anyway, that's all irrelevant since JBL won, so we can just say that he was just psyching out Hardcore Holly. Anyway, I guess I have to give kudos to the WWE for the JBL character. First they bring in Gangrel and Vicera and they made me forget that JBL was once in the Ministry. Then they have this Hardcore Match and they make me forget that JBL was a Hardcore Champion.

10-12-2004, 11:29 PM	#1
Aussie Skier So long, Eddie! miss you. Posts: 1,910	Smackdown Spoilers From rajah.com Smackdown and Velocity - 10/12/04 By: John McHero, rajah.com reader Smackdown Theordore Long stated that Cena got injured (punctured kidney) in a fight in a club after SD! last week and will be out indefinately. The announced Battle Royal for US title #1 contendership TONIGHT! RVD defeated Renee Dupree (before match Kenzo sang and then was sent to back) Billy Kidman defeated Charlie Haas (who had knee taped up. Kidman worked over knee and went up for SSP. Jackie Gayda ran down and pleaded with him not to do it but he did anyway. Stretcher came out for Charlie but he hobbled to the back in the end) Theodore Long told Heyman that him and Heidenriech would have to come out and publicly apologise for last weeks actions. Battle Royal for the US #1 contenders scene featuring lots of guys. Rey won eliminating Angle last. Carltio and Rey ran into each other in the back and Carlito challenged Rey to have match TONIGHT. Rey agreed and then got cheap-shotted from behind by Carlito. JBL defeated Hardcore Holly to retain title. Heidenrich came out to �apologise� and went mad lying down. Taker came out after quite a while to an insane pop and they had a quick match. Taker won with Tombstone. Carlito defeated Rey to retain title using the ropes to cheat. Eddie vs. Luther went to DQ when Jindrack interefered. Angle then came down but Show made the save and cleared the house with Eddie to end the show. Great show, good crowd. Taker was by far the most over. Top 5 Favourite wrestlers: 1. Carlito Cool 2. Chris Benoit 3. Randy Orton 4. Christian 5. Kurt Angle

10-12-2004, 11:58 PM	#2
ColdwaVer Darth Teedious Posts: 4,634	Sounds good, could do with some details on the JBL:Holly match though. And wtf is the use of having a BR for #1 contendership, and then get the match over with right away? I guess they'll have a rematch, but still, that's pretty dumb.

10-13-2004, 02:30 AM	#4
Corkscrewed Posts: 18,357	Yes! The Heidi/Taker program is over!!! Already. I hope.

10-13-2004, 02:55 AM	#5
John la Rock That's how I roll!!! Posts: 4,437	thank god Crapcore didn't win the title. but then again JBL is still champ so it's a lose lose situation

10-13-2004, 08:41 AM	#6
Cruiserweight 3:16 Posts: 1,224	I'm not surprised that Taker was the most over with the crowd. I remember going to a house show in Manchester last year and the crowd popped big style for him

10-13-2004, 10:41 AM	#7
SuperSlim Oh Sht* Posts: 19,302	Why does Rey have to win? that just sucks. There are many other guys that coulda won and challenged for the U.S. title other than Rey. I mean he has his own division for cryin out loud. He owns the Cruisierweight division. Well as far as JBL winnin, I was startin to like this whole JBL thing- not as champion but just the character, until he walked out goin against Hardcore, I mean that is just weak. Then he finally beats him up? Of course he was. Hopefully that Taker/Heidinsomethinrich thing is over cause it seemed sucky from the get go. Overall it sounds a lot better than Raw. But that isn't sayin much.

10-13-2004, 10:45 AM	#8
LK It's Clobbering Time! Posts: 5,337	Sounds good

10-13-2004, 12:22 PM	#10
Londoner One Of A Kind Posts: 22,178	Doesn't sound that good to me, i mean what a title match the bookers gave us JBl v hardcore holly, WOW I must see that match! cough Vince Mcmahon really does know how to rip the fans off with this shit booking doesn't he?

10-13-2004, 12:27 PM	#11
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	So, what was the point of Booker T droping the title to Cena just to have Cena give it to Carlito Crap in his first match... people wonder why Smackdown is the "2nd show". or is it 3rd, I may have to see how velocity is doing these days.

10-13-2004, 12:58 PM	#12
Astley316 white army Posts: 516	I actully went to smackdown, and have to say it was a greate show,

10-13-2004, 02:15 PM	#13
Eunos Bastard Deer Posts: 1,385	Id sooner have the belt round JBL then Hardcore Holly.

10-13-2004, 04:18 PM	#16
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	lol, they had Taker pin Heidenreich? WTF are they doing? Do they want people to care about that match for Survivor Series?

10-13-2004, 05:13 PM	#17
John la Rock That's how I roll!!! Posts: 4,437	Maybe Taker/Heidencrap is over Taker moves on to wrestle someone likeKurt Angle and Heidencrap gets I dunno RELEASED

10-13-2004, 07:07 PM	#19
Tornado Tedious Inevitability Posts: 7,521	The results are a bit sketchy, so I wrote up my own: Velocity WWE CruiserWeight Championship Spike Dudley v Scotty 2 Hotty Nice pop for Scotty, opening match so the crowd where up for it. I shouted out "Spikes a pussy", but I don't think it was loud enough to be picked up. Pretty straight forward match, Spike gets the win with the help of the ropes. Orlando Jordan v Funaki Pretty good heat for Orlando, nice pop for Funaki. Typical big man v little man match, Orlando picks up the win. Torrie Wilson makes an appearance to hype up the crowd. Pretty pointless. Bubba Ray Dudley v Rico Great pop for Rico, pretty over in the UK. I couldn't see much of this match due to some kid in front of me with a big "I HATE THE DUDLEYS" sign. Bubba picks up the win with a Bubba Bomb after D-Von tripped Rico. Smackdown Smackdown opens with a backstage segment with Long and the Smackdown roster. Long announced that due to a bar fight (bullshit) that Cena will NOT be in the UK tonight (MAJOR heat as the arena was full of Cena signs and shirts). Long then announces a #1 contender match for the U.S Title...a Battle Royal...decent pop for that annoucement. The opening video plays, followed by the pyro and the crowd go nuts. Welcome to Smackdown. Rob Van Dam v Rene Dupree Nice opener, RVD got a nice pop. I was digging the mix of Dupree's and Suzukis music, and Suzuki singing "Livin' in America" got a good laugh from the crowd. Pretty simple match, nothing spectacular. RVD picks up the win after the 5*. Billy Kidman v Charlie Hass Hass is selling a knee injury, which Kidman worked over. Not much offence from Hass. Kidman goes up to the top for a SSP, which brings out what i've read was Miss Jackie, but I swear this was Dawn Marie. Kidman ignores her, hits the SSP onto Hass's legs for the win. After the match, Hass refuses medical help, and walks out with his arms over a ref, and Dawn. Major pop for Charlie, he put his had on Dawn Marie's boob, and left it there all the way up the ramp. Backstage Segment involving Reigns and The Sun's Page 3 Girls. Damn, I hate the British Accent when spoken after an American. Battle Royal for the #1 Contendership for the U.S Title Kurt Angle, Mark Jindrak, Luther Reigns, Scotty 2 Hotty, Orlando Jordan, RVD, Rey Mysterio, Bubba, D-Von, Kidman, Funaki, Kenzo Suzuki, Rene Dupree, Rico, Eddie Gurrero, Nunzio and Johnny Stamboli. Comes down to Kurt and Rey. Rey picks up the win after some close near-eliminations. Backstage Segment with Rey Mysterio. Carlito challages Rey for the belt, tonight. Rey accepts. WWE Championship - Hardcore Match Hardcore Holly v John Bradshaw Layfield (c) I turned my back for this match. I gather JBL won after a chairshot. In-Ring Segement - Paul Heyman and Heidenreich Paul Heyman apologises for Heidenreichs behaviour, and forces him to read an apology. Heidenreich then goes insane, and starts hitting himself, and lies down in the ring...cut to commercial. As we come back on-air, Heidenreich is still in the ring, he the calls out The Undertaker, who complies by turning the lights out, and we hear the gongs. Crowd goes nuts, and we have a match. Undertaker wins after a well received Tombstone. United States Championship Rey Mysterio vs Carlito Carribean Cool (c) Decent bck and forth match, with the usual high spots from Rey. CCC retains with hel from the ropes. Eddie Guerrero v Luther Reigns Eddie wins via DQ after Jindrak runs in. Kurt soon follows, and a beatdown begins. Big Show makes the save, and cleans house to bring us to the end of Smackdown.

10-14-2004, 05:18 AM	#21
Dave Youell 1/2 Optimist 1/2 Amazing Posts: 12,427	They wont air the Taker match, I garentee it. Look out for the 'cool' guy in the 6th row behind cole with a TPWW sign

10-14-2004, 11:52 PM	#22
Champion of Europa SEX APPEAL Posts: 13,830	Taker/Heidenreich didn't get aired.

10-15-2004, 12:15 AM	#24
Azriel The Caption Crippler Posts: 8,855	Why didn't they air the Taker match?

10-15-2004, 01:23 AM	#26
damn tekno Conspiracy Victim Posts: 81	WHAT THE SHIT NO TAKER!!! Though the Holly/JBL match wasn't so bad, it was a brawling match through and through but ofcourse JBL needed Virgil, err Orlando to help him set up Hardcore. Wicked Chairshot!

10-15-2004, 01:46 AM	#27
The Answer R.I.P Eddie Guerrero Posts: 3,553	Did they air the segment with Heyman and Long?.If they did then it makes no sense why they wouldn't air the taker/heidenreich segment.It was dawn marie not jackie gayda that came done during the kidman/Haas match.

10-15-2004, 01:48 AM	#28
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,768	holy crap did anyone see Haas's hand clearly on Dawn Marie's boob!!!?!?!?

10-15-2004, 06:23 PM	#31
El Santo One Man Horror Show Posts: 1,046	I saw the sign, Dave. Coolness. It was impossible to miss ... Tazz and Cole were talking about something or other, and the TPWW.net sign was right in between 'em. Hmmm... I wonder why the 'Taker squash wasn't shown on TV. And I caught the Haas thing as well. It looked really weird; the way his hand was positioned, I thought maybe Dawn had suffered a wardrobe malfunction or something. Which, um, is much better for one Charlie Haas. That is, until he gets home and Jackie has something to say about it....

10-15-2004, 09:46 PM	#35
El Santo One Man Horror Show Posts: 1,046	An idea that just recently struck me as kind of odd: Tazz and Michael Cole were trying to sell the idea that the hardcore match for the WWE championship was in Hardcore Holly's favor because it was his kind of match. Later, JBL would look upset in his interview. He complained that it was unfair that he was the only WWE champion to ever defend his title in a hardcore match. My thought: Didn't Bradshaw hold the Hardcore Championship only a short time before it was retired? And he held the Hardcore Championship more recently than Hardcore Holly, which gives him a distinct advantage since it means he'd have had more recent experience. Anyway, that's all irrelevant since JBL won, so we can just say that he was just psyching out Hardcore Holly. Anyway, I guess I have to give kudos to the WWE for the JBL character. First they bring in Gangrel and Vicera and they made me forget that JBL was once in the Ministry. Then they have this Hardcore Match and they make me forget that JBL was a Hardcore Champion.