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Old 10-21-2004, 12:40 AM   #1
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Rate The Wrestler - Day 60 - Jake "The Snake" Roberts
Good evening, members of TPWW. I am Funky Fly, and I'll be your host for today's edition of Rate The Wrestler. Yesterday we featured the Master of the Million Dollar Dream, Ted DeBiase, who scored an amazing 95, plaing him alongside Owen Hart in second place. Tonight, we feature the master of the DDT, and I ain't talking about Raven. Today, we have Jake "The Snake" Roberts.

Happy voting.

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Old 10-21-2004, 12:47 AM   #2
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Old 10-21-2004, 12:50 AM   #3
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congrats to the Million Dollar Man

anyway Jake gets an 8.5. Great psychology, very innavative, fantastic character, too bad drugs fucked him. cause he was definetly WWE Championship material
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Old 10-21-2004, 12:50 AM   #4
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Old 10-21-2004, 12:58 AM   #6
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Old 10-21-2004, 01:08 AM   #7
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8, anything Jake was know for has already been said. He screws with your head, he had the moves, he was just.. evil. It is just unfortunate that drugs took over. Just watch 'Beyond the Mat' movie and find out.

And one last thing.... I hyped it for weeks, I was going to give him a 9.6.. and I missed his RTW.. I missed DiBiase! But he got a great score, so I'm happy. HAHA MONEY MONEY MONEY MONNNEEEYY!
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Old 10-21-2004, 01:10 AM   #8
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Old 10-21-2004, 01:17 AM   #9
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8,his drug problems really made me give him a lower rating the he deserved
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Old 10-21-2004, 01:23 AM   #10
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Jorgha does not have that much rep yet (10+)
But what about Raven?

Jake gets an 8
His snake gets a 10
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Old 10-21-2004, 01:23 AM   #11
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Old 10-21-2004, 01:48 AM   #13
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and I suggest Psycho Sid for the next RTW
Sure whatever you want.

I'm feeling lazy. I'll give him an 8.5 without setting up my scale.
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Old 10-21-2004, 02:15 AM   #17
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Old 10-21-2004, 02:37 AM   #18
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When you said the master of the DDT, i thought you meant torrie Wilson

aaaanywayz, credit to Ted Debiasse, true icon of sports entertainment
onto Jake the Snake

Ability: 8 - good ability, not brilliant but strong
Overness: 10 - always had the crowd in the palm on his hand
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Finisher: 10 - the ddt isnt a brilliant move, but he came up with it! plus it has helped create many other moves today, such as the Pedigree, edgecution (i think), X-Factor , unprettier and the double arm DDT (i think that was mankind's old move).
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Look: 10 - always fit the part perfectly

9.5. However, he dropped the ball for himself, and that reduces him to 9
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Old 10-21-2004, 04:52 AM   #20
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Old 10-21-2004, 06:39 AM   #22
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9.5 He is one of the greatest wrestlers of all time, and one of the greatest drug addicts of all time. I nominate Al Snow again so I can make fun of him.
 
Old 10-21-2004, 06:41 AM   #23
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Old 10-21-2004, 07:48 AM   #27
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One of the best ring psychologists ever. Not the best looking physique in the ring, but since when did that matter?

At first I was inclined to say "he had problems and it shouldn't affect his rating as a WRESTLER". But being a crack addict, I'm sure, has cost him opportunities that would have enabled him to accomplish more and thus improve his rating.
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Old 10-21-2004, 07:49 AM   #28
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Old 10-21-2004, 08:41 AM   #29
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Old 10-21-2004, 09:32 AM   #30
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You know Jake isn't the only wrestler in the world to have a drug problem, I think it's unfair to mark him down because of it, we are basising this on how he was as a performer, not how he was on a wrestling documentary film.
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9.5

You know Jake isn't the only wrestler in the world to have a drug problem, I think it's unfair to mark him down because of it, we are basising this on how he was as a performer, not how he was on a wrestling documentary film.
And when the others have a drug problem that affects their performance too, well then they will get the appropriate rating.

Look, I'm not bashing him; he is one of my all time favorites, top five for sure. However, I'm going to rate him objectively, and not according to how I personally feel.

He was one of the best ring psychologists EVER. To me, how he was as a performer might have been rated higher if he could have kept his shit together and therefore perhaps accomplished more. His crack addiction cost him the ability to capitilize on opportunities that would have helped to justify the 9.5 I would have given him otherwise. Its not like 8 is terrible. It still puts him in the same league with really good guys.
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I would also like to nominate Rick Martel.

I give Jake a 9.
 
Old 10-21-2004, 12:18 PM   #34
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I'll like to nominate Ken Shamrock.

And Jake gets a 8.5 from me.
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Old 10-21-2004, 12:40 PM   #35
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And when the others have a drug problem that affects their performance too, well then they will get the appropriate rating.

Look, I'm not bashing him; he is one of my all time favorites, top five for sure. However, I'm going to rate him objectively, and not according to how I personally feel.

He was one of the best ring psychologists EVER. To me, how he was as a performer might have been rated higher if he could have kept his shit together and therefore perhaps accomplished more. His crack addiction cost him the ability to capitilize on opportunities that would have helped to justify the 9.5 I would have given him otherwise. Its not like 8 is terrible. It still puts him in the same league with really good guys.
I wasn't aiming this any anyone in particular, just that some people may take that into consideration.

And to be fair his work rate in the WWF from what I can remember wasn't tarnished that much by drugs, he still performed well.

It was when he started the indy circuit that things went downhill, I should know i've worked on 4 shows that he's been working on (cheap plug!).
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It was when he started the indy circuit that things went downhill
-EDIT- That is exactly what I'm talking about. His earlier stellar work would have garnered him the 9.5 but then he fell to an 8; which is still respectful.
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Old 10-21-2004, 12:56 PM   #37
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That is exactly what I'm talking about and it is why I gave him 8 instead of 9.5
how many times did you see him work indies?
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how many times did you see him work indies?
Three or four, enough times to justify my 8.
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Three or four, enough times to justify my 8.
ok then fair enough
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