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Old 11-15-2004, 04:07 AM   #1
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So am I the only one who doesn't mind Heidenreich?
Granted I have only seen him once and that was at a house show against Rico. The guy has a pretty decent look to him, the poetry was funny, his finisher is pretty cool, he has Heyman as a manager and probably one of muy favorite current theme songs. Now I'm not saying giveh im a title or anything, I just don't think he's as bad as some make him to be.

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Old 11-15-2004, 04:31 AM   #2
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Granted I have only seen him once and that was at a house show against Rico. The guy has a pretty decent look to him, the poetry was funny, his finisher is pretty cool, he has Heyman as a manager and probably one of muy favorite current theme songs. Now I'm not saying giveh im a title or anything, I just don't think he's as bad as some make him to be.

i don't mind him.
i dont like how he punches alot because this is wrestling, and its hard to make punches real.
I love his entrance music too!

What I would like is for him to become somewhat of a neo-nazi (altho that may be a bit too risky for the WWE). By becoming a neo-nazi, i dont mean beat up Funaki every week, but beat up Funaki, Akio, Kenzo Suzuki etc...
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Hmmmm, he's still pretty green, but at least he's not as bad as when he nearly killed Stevie Richards with his old finisher on 2 separate occasions and botched a mixed tag match.
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Old 11-15-2004, 06:16 AM   #4
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I like Heidenreich. I am really interested in his character. His match at Survivor Series actually gets a "B+" from me, because I found myself enjoying the story, the characters and the workrate. If they can have Heidenreich use psychology in every match, and keep his character up, I think Heidenreich could REALLY improve. I'm looking forward to seeing him feud with either Charlie Haas or Tazz next. Both of which I wouldn't be surprised to see drag a good match out of Heidenreich (as long as they practice with him like Undertaker did).

I frankly think the match would have been even better if Paul Heyman was on commentary with Tazz & Michael Cole, and this could lead to a little bit of promotion for the ECW DVD, and maybe allow Tazz to get pissed off and put Heyman in the Tazzmission (allowing Heidenreich to get distracted, which is when Taker recovers and hits the Chokeslam and the Tombstone) or for Tazz to actually attack Heidenreich, giving him a DQ win, which I believe the fans would be split on, because Tazz would be choking out Heidenreich, but again it's a DQ finish, and it goes to Heidenreich. That's th ekind of noise I associate with ECW. Not the mindless cheering, but the reaction from the crowd when some are happy to see the violence, others are shocked, and others just like making their voices heard by booing or hissing for more.
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He needs a better finishing move. The Modified Back Breaker looks like shit. I rank it up there with the FU as the worst finishing moves in the business
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He needs a better finishing move. The Modified Back Breaker looks like shit. I rank it up there with the FU as the worst finishing moves in the business
That is not a back breaker. It's a modified shoulder breaker AKA the Canadian back breaker AKA the Scott Norton shoulder breaker.
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That is not a back breaker. It's a modified shoulder breaker AKA the Canadian back breaker AKA the Scott Norton shoulder breaker.
His finisher well at least what I saw a few weeks ago and what his profile on WWE.com says is a modified spinning (Swinging whatever) sidewalk slam (side slam). It's actually pretty cool
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His finisher well at least what I saw a few weeks ago and what his profile on WWE.com says is a modified spinning (Swinging whatever) sidewalk slam (side slam). It's actually pretty cool
Well, I didn't see the PPV last night, but on Smackdown, he's been using a devastating shoulderbreaker. The spinning sidewalk slam thing is what he nearly killed Stevie Richards with. It's a badass finisher, but he's so sloppy that he can't control the victim's landing.
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Well, I didn't see the PPV last night, but on Smackdown, he's been using a devastating shoulderbreaker. The spinning sidewalk slam thing is what he nearly killed Stevie Richards with. It's a badass finisher, but he's so sloppy that he can't control the victim's landing.

Ahh well he used the sidewalk slam against Rico at a house show it looked pretty fucking cool, out of nowhere type move. Maybe he's getting better dunno, that's the only match I've ever seen of him lol. His music is just fucking cool though
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That is not a back breaker. It's a modified shoulder breaker AKA the Canadian back breaker AKA the Scott Norton shoulder breaker.
I would personally like to see Heidenreich use a submission move of some kind. That way, not only would he win the match, but he could also take his aggression out on his opponent by really hurting him
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I would personally like to see Heidenreich use a submission move of some kind. That way, not only would he win the match, but he could also take his aggression out on his opponent by really hurting him
He did use the Cobra clutch on Josh Mattews. I would like to see him use a simple full nelson, only he lifts smaller guys off the ground and swings them around.
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I don't mind him very much at all. He's got a great look, he plays his role perfectly, and having Heyman can pretty much assure that he will get over. His wrestling is definitely subpar, but hopefully that can improve down the line and he can be a Psycho Sid type character over his career.
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He's a better wrestler than JBL. That's for sure. Better than the Undertaker, too.
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Sure, he's not a technical wizard, but he wrestles to his role. I don't want to see the Undertaker lumbering around the ring anymore. I'm starting to think he might actually BE dead. And I love clotheslines just as much as the next guy, but he's still better than JBL.
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I think Heidenreich should use the cobra clutch as a finishing move. Maybe something innovative could work as a pinfall based finishing move. I'd like to see a "reverse powerbomb" type move, where you start with the opponent facing upwards in a powerbomb position (the angle they would be if they were getting a reverse DDT). Then you flip the opponent up, and slam them down in a powerbomb motion, but so they take the move on their chest.

Not sure if it could be pulled off, though.
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Heidenreich is one of the worst wrestlers I've ever seen. Seems like all the terrible wrestlers get psycho monster gimmicks because that's their only chances of ever being pushed. I think Heidenreich is second only to Giant Gonzalez.
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Undertaker vs Heidenreich was a lot better than it had any business being. Heidenreich actually manages to make up for his technical shortcomings with good psychology and presence, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him around for quite some time.
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Old 11-20-2004, 03:37 PM   #29
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heidenreich is sorta bland 2 me but maybe if they put him in a LONG-TERM FEUD he'd be something cuz the only thing that's keeping him from getting real stale real fast has 2 initials--P.H. go figure if u dont know what i mean
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Old 11-16-2004, 12:35 AM   #30
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Heidenreich is the worst wrestler i have ever seen. WWE would have been better keeping Nathan Jones and matt Morgan than wasting their time with Heidenreich. Heidenreich will be out of the business in a couple of months.
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