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Old 11-24-2004, 04:11 PM   #1
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'Politics backstage'
I may sound stupid by asking this but does anyone really know what people mean when they go on about stuff like 'triple h has been playing politics backstage'?
I'm abit confused as to how such a thing can happen and wondering what actually goes on. I can see Triple H being married to Vince's daughter being politics, but I have no clue what else goes on back there, anybody know?
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Old 11-24-2004, 04:14 PM   #2
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He pretty much just makes sure the show revolves around him, well at least the main even scene.
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Old 11-24-2004, 04:15 PM   #4
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Old 11-24-2004, 04:18 PM   #5
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He pretty much just makes sure the show revolves around him, well at least the main even scene.
Yeah but what i don't get is how a wrestler can be allowed to have that much power.
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Old 11-24-2004, 04:23 PM   #6
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Some have creative control, some have been around for a while, some bang their boss's daughter, etc.
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Old 11-24-2004, 04:43 PM   #7
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I also heard that Vince feels like he owes HHH for staying with the company throughout years and leaving.
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Old 11-24-2004, 04:49 PM   #8
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I also heard that Vince feels like he owes HHH for staying with the company throughout years and leaving.
He hasn't really been there that long compared to alot of other guys.
He's just a franchise dude, went from nothing to everything in the WWE.
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Old 11-24-2004, 04:56 PM   #9
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Most of this "politics backstage" crap is totally exaggerated anyway.
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Old 11-24-2004, 05:14 PM   #10
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Most of this "politics backstage" crap is totally exaggerated anyway.
That's what i think(in some cases anyway), i mean no one really knows whats going on backstage unless theyve been there. A person working for Vince can't tell him what to do I don't think,whether hes using 'politics' or not, if Vince allows that to happen then he really is a pushover.
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Old 11-24-2004, 05:17 PM   #11
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Most of this "politics backstage" crap is totally exaggerated anyway.
Nah, John Tenta (AKA Earthquake) pretty much confirmed how much power HHH has backstage when he made mention of his visit to a Raw show a few months ago.
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Old 11-24-2004, 05:29 PM   #12
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It's basically stuff that you only hear about once in a while, and from those tidbits we base what the person is like backstage. Refusing to put guys over, refusing to do angles you don't necessarily like, being a dick to other wrestlers just because you can. When we hear about these types of incidents, that is pretty much what we base politics on, other than other wrestlers' opinions (which are subjective and don't hold as much weight).
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Old 11-24-2004, 05:34 PM   #13
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That's what i think(in some cases anyway), i mean no one really knows whats going on backstage unless theyve been there. A person working for Vince can't tell him what to do I don't think,whether hes using 'politics' or not, if Vince allows that to happen then he really is a pushover.
Well, I have one word to say...

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Old 11-24-2004, 06:06 PM   #14
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Here's the politics.
HHH: "As long as I win and have the belt, anything else can happen on the show."
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:03 PM   #15
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Not everything you read is accurate, but there are certain sources that over the years have proven to be very credible, well one anyway.

There are people who work in the WWE (wrestlers, agents, office types, etc) that like to spill the beans about what is going on, probably in part just to vent. A guy like Meltzer has a ton of connections in the company, so he hears things. When you hear the same thing over and over again, it becomes worthy enough to make public. And I'm sure therte is a TON of stuff Meltz hears that he doesn't put in the Observer.

In terms of what constitutes politics. I would say the most common form of it is when the top guys (like Taker, HHH, HBK, Angle, etc) do everything to prevent new stars from being made. Those guys all have Vince's respect, and if a few of them say the same thing, then he'll tend to listen. HHH is on another level because he's married ot the head of creative. But even guys like Taker and Angle on SD, can align together and get in Vince's ear about who should (themselves and JBL) and who shouldn't be pushed (Eddie).

This has gone on throughout the history of wrestling, and really goes on in every type of workplace.
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Old 11-24-2004, 08:43 PM   #16
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Most of this "politics backstage" crap is totally exaggerated anyway.
Actually it's not. You ask any guy who has worked for the Fed since HHH got some power. A lot of guys who actually like him will openly admit it too.
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Old 11-24-2004, 09:05 PM   #17
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Have you asked a guy who worked for the Fed Rob?
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I'm not going to speak for Rob, but Ive heard guys who have left the WWE talk about it.

And further, I dont need soemone saying it, its obvious.

These are facts: HHH is not a draw, yeat he has been on top since 2002. Either Vince doesn't pay attention to his own numbers of HHH has some kind of pull.
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Old 11-25-2004, 01:33 AM   #19
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The way I see it (without knowing for sure), I basically think that Stephanie McMahon puts a little more effort into what she writes for Triple H, and most of it makes him look good. If Vince then comes in and says it's too much Triple H, they then pass it on to Triple H's on-screen lackies Dave Batista & Ric Flair. Thsi is Triple H's biggest benefit from Evolution. Appart from giving him a reason and an excuse for keeping the title for 282 days at a time, it also allows him to have two extra nets to catch the heat that gets absorbed from the fans on Monday Night RAW weekly.

So basically I believe that Triple H uses the Evolution to give him some storyline back-up, to give him some political back-up, and to provide some entertainment all at the same time, creating a nice little illusion.

Basically the guys backstage that have the power have been loyal to the WWE, or have achieved the status where they have been a major draw for the WWE (or remain to do so). What I want to see happen is Vince relaising that these men owe Vince for giving them a chance, and for giving them the characters, and for allowing the mainstream exposure they have been given. If someone gives you a chance to prove yourself in life when noone else will, and you achieve what they hoped you would, you should thank them for that opportunity, not vice versa. Men like The Undertaker, HBK and Kurt Angle, although knowing heaps about the business, and doing a lot for it, should have very little input into thtier storylines, and should really only help book a few of the other guys into good roles, and suggest ideas to the creative team. But that's just my opinion.
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Old 11-25-2004, 02:49 AM   #20
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Well, I wouldn't say "should have very little input into their storylines," but I can see what you're saying...

I think that once your reach that stage, you SHOULD have some input into what you say and do, because wrestlers with that much experience can have a lot of good ideas. On the other hand, completely taking over your character and using it to hurt others isn't a good thing. All you can ask for is a good balance (just like in life), and that's the idea situation that should occur.
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Well, I wouldn't say "should have very little input into their storylines," but I can see what you're saying...

I think that once your reach that stage, you SHOULD have some input into what you say and do, because wrestlers with that much experience can have a lot of good ideas. On the other hand, completely taking over your character and using it to hurt others isn't a good thing. All you can ask for is a good balance (just like in life), and that's the idea situation that should occur.
I did undercompesate a little, as they should have a lot of input into their matches, and all their ideas should be listened to, but the WWE shouldn't eat out of their hands anymore than they eat out of the WWE's hands, which is what I think we agree on. A balance that allows the wrestlers thta cna add to the product creatively, add to the product creatively, while they still remain respectable employees and do whatever the WWE decides is fair.
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HHH's power backstage was proven by Pat Patterson who said that the show was based too much around HHH.
When nothing got done, he left.
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Have you asked a guy who worked for the Fed Rob?
No. Quite simply because only one of the three guys (would be four but one I never talk to anymore due to some personal reasons) I know has worked for WWE when Hunter worked there and he was long gone before HHH had any real non-Clique power.

He does insist he saw HHH carrying Scott Hall's and Kevin Nash's bags on a tour of Germany though in the mid 90's. Bam Bam Bigelow, Shane Douglas and the guy I used to talk to have also said it publicly so it's hard not to believe.
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