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Old 01-05-2004, 06:07 PM   #1
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Do you remember the 6 yr old girl killed by "wrestling moves"?
Here is the follow up story:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,107334,00.html

Wrestling-Death Killer Signs Papers OK'ing Deal

MIAMI — The mother of a Florida teen who beat a 6-year-old playmate to death said neither she nor her son is happy with the terms of a plea deal yet chose to accept it simply so he could have freedom.

Lionel Tate (search), 16, signed papers Sunday agreeing to plead guilty to second-degree murder in the 1999 beating death of Tiffany Eunick. Tate could be freed by the end of the month from a maximum security juvenile prison in Okeechobee.

"My son wants to come home. I want him home," said Kathleen Grossett-Tate. "He did not receive a fair trial the first time. For us to go back to trial again, I know he would not get a fair trial."

An autopsy showed Tiffany suffered a fractured skull, lacerated liver, broken rib, internal hemorrhaging and cuts and bruises. Tate's trial attorneys argued he accidentally killed her while imitating the moves of professional wrestlers he saw on television.

Grossett-Tate said she would have preferred her son to plead guilty to manslaughter (search) since she and her son contend Tiffany's death was accidental. They declined the same second-degree murder plea deal before Tate's trial.

Tate's first-degree murder conviction and life sentence were overturned last month after state appellate judges ruled that his mental competency (search) should have been tested before trial. Following that decision, prosecutors again offered the plea deal, giving the teen a rare second chance.

In the deal, Tate is agreeing to be sentenced to three years in prison -- most of which he has already served -- plus one year of house arrest and 10 years probation.

"Just knowing it's all been signed, I'm very happy for him that he and his mom are on the same wavelength and moving forward," said Richard Rosenbaum, Tate's attorney.

A judge still has to ratify the plea deal, a process that could take a few weeks, Rosenbaum said. No hearings have been scheduled.

Ken Padowitz, who prosecuted Tate and now represents Tiffany's mother in private practice, did not return a message left Sunday. He said Saturday that the girl's mother was pleased that Tate was accepting responsibility for the murder.

Special prosecutors appointed nearly two years ago cleared Grossett-Tate, a Florida Highway Patrol trooper, of any wrongdoing in Tiffany's death. Grossett-Tate was baby-sitting Tiffany in her Pembroke Park home and said she was upstairs napping when the girl was injured.
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This whole affair just smells! How can an adult be babysitting and NOT know this was going on? How can an "accident" cause a fractured skull, lacerated liver, broken rib, and internal hemorrhaging? This kid is a teenager - she was 6 for Christ sake - he should NOT be set free.
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Old 01-05-2004, 06:18 PM   #2
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I agree with you. I'm sure she couldn't get all those injuries from just one move. A normal kid knows when to stop.
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The teen is either a calculated and sick killer or just plain dumber than a thousand sexymanalive's.
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Old 01-06-2004, 02:26 AM   #4
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Old 01-06-2004, 03:26 AM   #5
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As a FL resident,and someone who followed the case from when
it began,I think that he is DEFINITELY guilty,and should serve a
great deal of time more than he what he is getting away with...

HOWEVER

I also think that his mother was/is a VERY stupid woman for tur-
ning down the original deal that would have seen her son avoid
the mess that this has all been turned into.
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Old 01-06-2004, 03:35 AM   #6
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Quite stupid. If he's retarded, get him help. If he's just a cold blooded killer, lock him up. How hard is that?
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Old 01-06-2004, 05:04 AM   #7
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I'm sure this kid will ill again when hes an adult. They need him kept away, and see a therapist or something. Mental hospital.
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Old 01-06-2004, 08:46 AM   #8
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Old 01-06-2004, 06:32 PM   #9
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i said it the girls fault not the boy maybe if female were'nt so weak
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i said it the girls fault not the boy maybe if female were'nt so weak
Even if that was a joke, it was the worst I have ever heard.
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Old 01-06-2004, 06:57 PM   #11
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I swear theres a topic about this in the discussion forum, I just can't be ****ed to go and look.
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Old 01-06-2004, 07:01 PM   #12
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i said it the girls fault not the boy maybe if female were'nt so weak
And another thrilling post by Mr. Misogynist..

Anyway, I blame the kid for doing what he did, but I blame the parent too. It isn't right, and I don't think it was intent to kill her, but that is what happened. I don't think he'd deserve something like a Death Penalty, but time in jail and/or a good long list of community service would be a better punishment...
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Old 01-06-2004, 07:23 PM   #13
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i said it the girls fault not the boy maybe if female were'nt so weak
You know, I'd like to just leave this post alone, but I've gotta at least point out the like 6 year age difference between the girl who was killed and the idiot who killed her. 6 year old boys aren't very tough against people twice their age either.
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I honestly believe his intent wasnt to kill her, and I doubt his mental capacity would have proven strong enough to show that he is able to have self control. But I think that sentencing a 12 year old to life in prison without perol (spelling) is way too harsh, despite the crime. I am glad that they released him, but i think he should see lots and lots of therapy.
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I honestly believe his intent wasnt to kill her, and I doubt his mental capacity would have proven strong enough to show that he is able to have self control. But I think that sentencing a 12 year old to life in prison without perol (spelling) is way too harsh, despite the crime. I am glad that they released him, but i think he should see lots and lots of therapy.
Parole, just to help out.

I think the kid needs to be in custody until he can tell right from wrong.

If he's now judged free of mental defects, then fine. If not, keep him locked up a while longer. Not to pnish him, but to protect others.
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Parole, just to help out.

I think the kid needs to be in custody until he can tell right from wrong.

If he's now judged free of mental defects, then fine. If not, keep him locked up a while longer. Not to pnish him, but to protect others.
I agree!
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The kid is sick in the head, and should stay in a permanent Juvenile Detention center until he's old enough to move on to a regular jail. The fact that the little girl suffered such severe injuries is proof enough that he didn't just perform "a move or two," it had to have been a beatdown of massive proportions. Hell, professional wrestling probably wasn't even going through his head. He probably said a bad word, she threatened to tell on him, and he beat the living shit out of her. **** this kid, send him to jail.
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I hope the teen goes to jail, gets raped, gets killed, and goes to hell.
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Parole, just to help out.

I think the kid needs to be in custody until he can tell right from wrong.

If he's now judged free of mental defects, then fine. If not, keep him locked up a while longer. Not to pnish him, but to protect others.
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I hope the teen goes to jail, gets raped, gets killed, and goes to hell.
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I have trouble showing any pitty to someone who doesn't deserve it.
The teen should of known better than to rough house with a 6 year old girl.
And then people blame it on wrestling?
I seriously think this guy should get raped and killed.
If it's not for killing a little girl, then he should be raped and killed for being a fucking idiot.
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Uhhhh...Yeah...And condoning raping and violating a human being makes you SO much better than the 12 year old who you say "should have known better."

If only you had the discretion capacity that you think a 12 year old should have.
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Think of things like this Kane Knight, if someone you loved and cared for was murdered in cold blood out of stupidity or malice, you would wish all of hell's wrath upon them. I'm sure people loved that little girl. I'm sure people cared for that little girl. Everyone is born with the potential for greatness. To take away that potential, to kill someone, is unforgiveable.
Someone kills your sister, your lover, your mother, your friend, your co-worker, your family... You'd be a liar if you would tell me you wouldn't wish the worst upon the killer. No, I didn't know the girl, and I didn't know the family, so I shouldn't be hot on the topic, but some people are so stupid, and it pisses me off. I wish nothing but the worst for the murderer.
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Think of things like this Kane Knight, if someone you loved and cared for was murdered in cold blood out of stupidity or malice, you would wish all of hell's wrath upon them. I'm sure people loved that little girl. I'm sure people cared for that little girl. Everyone is born with the potential for greatness. To take away that potential, to kill someone, is unforgiveable.
Someone kills your sister, your lover, your mother, your friend, your co-worker, your family... You'd be a liar if you would tell me you wouldn't wish the worst upon the killer. No, I didn't know the girl, and I didn't know the family, so I shouldn't be hot on the topic, but some people are so stupid, and it pisses me off. I wish nothing but the worst for the murderer.
I agree. I just dont think that it is right for someone to kill someone much weaker and be released onto the streets after 4 years. He could do it again and isn't fair on the girls family and freinds that they will never see her again yet the person who did it is free to get on with their life.
Allthough I dont think he should be raped or killed, but should have a punishment.
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Always450, want to know wh's much weaker than you?

the kid you just wished rape and murder on.

Sick bastard.
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Always450, want to know wh's much weaker than you?

the kid you just wished rape and murder on.

Sick bastard.
You know what that means? By his own logic, he deserves to be raped and killed!
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Old 01-14-2004, 12:36 PM   #30
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Think of things like this Kane Knight, if someone you loved and cared for was murdered in cold blood out of stupidity or malice, you would wish all of hell's wrath upon them. I'm sure people loved that little girl. I'm sure people cared for that little girl. Everyone is born with the potential for greatness. To take away that potential, to kill someone, is unforgiveable.
Someone kills your sister, your lover, your mother, your friend, your co-worker, your family... You'd be a liar if you would tell me you wouldn't wish the worst upon the killer. No, I didn't know the girl, and I didn't know the family, so I shouldn't be hot on the topic, but some people are so stupid, and it pisses me off. I wish nothing but the worst for the murderer.
If I was the relative of the girl in this case, and I wished rape and painful death upon someone around half my age, I would be no better than he was when he stomped the girl to death. Just as you have proven yourself to be.

Of course you want nothing but the worst: Because you're as pathetic as the sick fuck who did this to her in the first place.
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