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Old 12-26-2004, 08:55 PM   #1
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Congradulations Peyton Manning.
Wow i cant believe we won that game. The way he got that record was unbelievable and the fact that i was there was even more amazing. I'm not sure anyone saw it on tv or not but the crowd went absolutely nuts when he threw that touchdown to Stokely. For atleast 1 minute everyone forgot there was a 2 point conversion to tie the game. It honestly was the greatest sports moment i've ever been apart of. Great win at the end also. It was like the Colts just flipped a switch and took the game from the Chargers.

PS. Man the Chargers are good. Really good.
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Old 12-27-2004, 12:30 AM   #2
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it's interesting how they're enforcing the 5yd rule this year and calling penalties if a defender breathers on a WR.

What makes it interesting is they said the last time the league focused on enforcing the rule was the year Marino set the record.

So, clearly it's easier to throw to you WR's when they're not being held
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Yeah cry about it some more VEL

Manning is nuts
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Have you actually watched our recievers this year? Seriously. Watch the record breaking TD that Stokley caught. Check out the double move he put on that guy. He faked the outside corner route and the Saftey jumped it. Then Stokley double moved into the inside post. There wasnt anyone within 4 yards of him and the saftey was on his face.

Are recievers have been doing this all year. Thats why Marvin harrison is the best reciever in the NFL. He doesnt lose a step when he puts these double moves on. nor does Reggie Wayne. This is why defensive backs have to grab and hold on our recievers.


Now Vel. How bout you state a original argument. Instead of making bandwagon statements. Cause the funny thing about bandwagon statements is that i there easy to argue against cause usually the person stating them are just reusing words they heard on tv to sound smart.
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Jets 41
Colts 0

Anyone remember that?
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I suppose the next thing to come out of your mouth will be that Peyton Manning isnt one of the best ever cause he hasnt won a SuperBowl right?
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nawww actually if the jets play the colts in the playoffs I wanted to put a bet on it.
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Yah . How did the Jets do in the playoffs last year?? ooo wait.

How are they gunna do in the Playoffs this year?? O wait.. The Bills are about to beat them for the spot. Nevermind.

Man i hope the Jets get into the playoffs and have to play us. I pray every night before i go to bed that God himself comes from the heavens pats me on the head and says " Rectal , Your team will have the Jets in the first round " Cause we would wreck the Jets in the in the first half and have second stringers playing in the 2nd. Hate to break it to you but the Jets might not even be one of the top 6 teams in the AFC.

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Jets will make the playoffs.
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okay....we got the lambs who we should be able to beat...no shit
the bills will take the niners, but the broncos got no shot against the steelers, provided the steelers even show up and play. See you in the playoffs...bucko
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Got news for you. The Bills played the niners this week and won and the Broncos play yours truely. Not the steelers.

And your still a idiot.
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ohh..... how bout that? Hmmm I'm a bit mixed up but we still got the lambs.
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Huh, so Baltimore plays the Steelers and Denver plays Indy? Who do the Bills play?

Jacksonville may still have a shot.
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LOL what are you flipping out about? He's right. Manning cried like a little bitch after he lost in Patriots in the playoffs, and so didn't his coach. Mike Martz cried like a little girl too, "The defensive backs are too aggresive." Well Martz and Dungey are both on the Rules Committee and look at that? "Re-enforce" the no contact after 5 yard rule. So saying that rule change has HAD nothing to do with Manning throwing all these touchdowns then you are just blind by bias. Don't get me wrong, Manning is one of the top QBs in the NFL. Probably will end up, if not already, as one of the QBs ever but saying the rule "enforcement" hasn't helped at all is ridculous. Personally, I don't think he would have broken the record without it. He probably would have gotten close, but I don't think he would have broken it.

I am probably a little bias here too, I am not a Manning fan at all. After what he said after he lost year in the playoffs. Pulled that usual bullshit that he wasn't making excuses, but then basically said they would have won if the New England Defensivebacks weren't all over his pretty boy wideouts.
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OMFG. B-more and steelers played today.. You guys watch football?

Bills play the Steelers next week i believe. I'm not sure who Bmore plays.

Bills vs Steelers will be money. Especially if the Steelers rest there players. Bills could win and Jets could be sitting at home for the New year.
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Regardless, Jacksonville will get the sixth spot.
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bills play the steelers...el freg
Broncos against Indy
Ravens against Dolphins

straight from nfl.com
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Miami is on a roll, Ravens are going down.

I'm feeling it !
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Theres no frigging reinforcing about it. It should have been Inforced from day one. Dont try to tell me that the Patriots werent mugging the hell out of our recievers in that game cause if you say it didnt happen. Your pretty blind yourself. I've seen that game several times now. I got it on tape. You guys all but stripped the jerseys off our backs and buttsexxed us on the 50 yard line. Not to mention i counted atleast 3 personal foul late hits that did not get called. Two of them by Wilson. That rule should have been enforced no matter what.

If your logic is : The only reason your doing good is cause there " Reinforcing the rules " :

Then your probably right .

And since your gunna use that logic. I'll go ahead and use this logic.

The only reason your team has won two superbowls is cause they havent inforced the rules.

Just like you said.
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The rules have nothing to do with it, peyton is the best qb in the nfl....even as dull a personality he has, he's got mad game
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ohhh and the pats have won 2 superbowls because they were the best team
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I'm not saying the Patriots werent the best team. What i am saying is that in that AFC championship if calls were called like they should have been. The Colts win that game and probably the Superbowl.

Patriots as of now are the best team in the NFL. ( as tough as it is for me to say that )

But i guarantee you The Colts will get a crack at them in the Playoffs . I think we will win.
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I was at the Ravens/Colts game too. Listening to manning and Ray Lewis pretty much yelling towards eachother what the other is about to do was something amazing in its own right. The crowd in INDY gets real quiet to let Manning do his thing so you can actually here them both screaming plays and audibles.
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Yeah that game was mad entertaining. The way they were both playing mind games with each other.
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The Steelers are the best team in the NFL right now. I don't see how you can say they aren't when they have beat the Patriots and the Eagles. Thats all I wanted to add.
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Have you actually watched our recievers this year? Seriously. Watch the record breaking TD that Stokley caught. Check out the double move he put on that guy. He faked the outside corner route and the Saftey jumped it. Then Stokley double moved into the inside post. There wasnt anyone within 4 yards of him and the saftey was on his face.

Are recievers have been doing this all year. Thats why Marvin harrison is the best reciever in the NFL. He doesnt lose a step when he puts these double moves on. nor does Reggie Wayne. This is why defensive backs have to grab and hold on our recievers.


Now Vel. How bout you state a original argument. Instead of making bandwagon statements. Cause the funny thing about bandwagon statements is that i there easy to argue against cause usually the person stating them are just reusing words they heard on tv to sound smart.
WTF are you talking about? What bandwaggon statement?

Manning may have the best physical tools, but does that make him a better QB?

Who was a better QB. Montana or Marino?

Marino had the tools and stats, could throw it deeper, stronger, etc... but Montana won the big games and in the clutch.

Yesterday was the first time Manning has done that. His comeback in the 2nd half, not just the way he played, but his composure, the best I can compare him to when he does bad is Derek Lowe. Shaking his head, talking to himself, yelling at his offensive line, when the problem wasn't their blocking. But he turned it around, and he has to keep doing that for them to win in the playoffs.

They have homefield in round #1, and then if they win will go to New England for round #2..

As for the "They got mugged last year", That's crap. Yea, there was more clutching and grabbing, but there was in the whole league, that's the way the rule had been called for almost 20yrs. Uncalled personal fouls? I think you've watched the tape of the game so many times that you're seeing things that didn't happen.

Anyway, I'm not taking anything away from Manning, he has the record and he won a huge game today, let's just see if he can keep doing it.
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Yeah cry about it some more VEL

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WTF are you talking about?

Cry about what? You think I really care if he has a record or not?

As a patriot player said this year, they care about one thing, being undefeated in the playoffs.

and BCWWF, I agree, right now the Steelers are the Best team in the NFL. Talent, and they've had chances for "hicups" (pats vs. dolphins) and held on for wins.
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But i guarantee you The Colts will get a crack at them in the Playoffs . I think we will win.
you guaranteethat you think they will win?

I'm assuming you mean if the Colts meet the Pats in the playoffs you guarantee the colts will win.

How about a little Logo bet?

Colts are #3, Pats #2, so if the Colts win they go to NE round #2.

Loser puts the logo of the winner as their avator till after the superbowl.

Deal?
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LOL what are you flipping out about? He's right. Manning cried like a little bitch after he lost in Patriots in the playoffs, and so didn't his coach. Mike Martz cried like a little girl too, "The defensive backs are too aggresive." Well Martz and Dungey are both on the Rules Committee and look at that? "Re-enforce" the no contact after 5 yard rule. So saying that rule change has HAD nothing to do with Manning throwing all these touchdowns then you are just blind by bias. Don't get me wrong, Manning is one of the top QBs in the NFL. Probably will end up, if not already, as one of the QBs ever but saying the rule "enforcement" hasn't helped at all is ridculous. Personally, I don't think he would have broken the record without it. He probably would have gotten close, but I don't think he would have broken it.

I am probably a little bias here too, I am not a Manning fan at all. After what he said after he lost year in the playoffs. Pulled that usual bullshit that he wasn't making excuses, but then basically said they would have won if the New England Defensivebacks weren't all over his pretty boy wideouts.
What did the DBs do to the recievers?

I've never really understood what this 5 yard rule is all about, but IMO it doesn't really take much skill to just flatten the WR before he can catch the ball, if that's what guys were doing before the rule was re-enforced or whatever.
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VonErich your saying thats the first time Manning has been clutch??? I dunno. Whats 17 fourth qrt comebacks sound to you. Do you forget about the 4 td lead he led the colts back from in Tampa Bay with only 3 minutes left , on Monday night football?


As for your bet. I'm so confident that we will beat the Patriots in the playoffs. I'll bet Avatars . Accept how bout the loser has to wear the others til the start of next football season?

Thats how i roll.
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VonErich your saying thats the first time Manning has been clutch??? I dunno. Whats 17 fourth qrt comebacks sound to you. Do you forget about the 4 td lead he led the colts back from in Tampa Bay with only 3 minutes left , on Monday night football?


As for your bet. I'm so confident that we will beat the Patriots in the playoffs. I'll bet Avatars . Accept how bout the loser has to wear the others til the start of next football season?

Thats how i roll.
The only reason I didn't do till the start of next football season is I'm sure I'll be making another bet at some point... screw it, if I make another I can always use my sig.

Ok, deal. If thats Pats face the Colts.

Hey, if the Colts drop in round #1, do I get a win by forfit?

As for Mannings comebacks, vs. what teams? I'm not saying he's not a good player, not at all, he's a great QB and baring a carrer ending injury will go down as one of the best. But, he tends to fall apart in the clutch and when he's getting beat he loses composure like he did in the first half. Plus, they really do struggle on the road.
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What did the DBs do to the recievers?

I've never really understood what this 5 yard rule is all about, but IMO it doesn't really take much skill to just flatten the WR before he can catch the ball, if that's what guys were doing before the rule was re-enforced or whatever.
The rule is, you can make contact w/ a WR w/in 5yds on the line of scrimmage, typically called "bumping" to try and slow down the WR a little, they can also try and tie them up and the same rules for lineman apply (ie, you can grab inside the shoulders) What has happend over the years is players were getting away w/ little bumps and grabs and such down field that weren't being called "let the players play", it speeds up the game.

What happens w/ a team like Indy who has fast WR, when the rule is properly inforced it makes them more difficult because in a case like Harrison he can out run most DB's in the league.

They were talking on TV that the rule was put in, in the 70's and some head league offical said they last time they focused on enforcing it was 1984, which happened to be the same year Marino set his record, so it's interesting that the same thing is happening when Manning broke it. I'm not saying this to take anything away from Manning, it's just an interesting fact.
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Somebody up there said that Payton Manning has a dull attitude, but I am starting to disagree, those new ads are opening him up and IMO making him the name of the NFL
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NFL is just trying to make the game easier for the offense. When is the last time you saw offensive pass interference called?

This isn't just helping Manning though, look at the whole NFL. Look at how many 1000 yard recievers there are this season.
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