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Old 01-02-2005, 10:48 PM   #1
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KOTR 05!
Is the time right for the return of the King of the Ring?

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Old 01-02-2005, 10:59 PM   #2
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Yeah..Should be a Mid card thing though.
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Old 01-02-2005, 11:11 PM   #3
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I wolud love to see Hassan win it.
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Old 01-02-2005, 11:21 PM   #4
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I wouldn't mind seeing it brought back as a brand exclusive show, if they continue with 15+ PPVs a year.

But the thing is, KOTR traditionally did low numbers, so its hard to make a good case for bringing it back. Plus, in the 10 years they had the show, I dont recall very many that were all that great. You'd think with all the talent they have, you could have a kick ass 8-man, 7 match tourny, but its never happened.
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Old 01-02-2005, 11:27 PM   #5
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I wouldn't mind seeing it brought back as a brand exclusive show, if they continue with 15+ PPVs a year.

But the thing is, KOTR traditionally did low numbers, so its hard to make a good case for bringing it back. Plus, in the 10 years they had the show, I dont recall very many that were all that great. You'd think with all the talent they have, you could have a kick ass 8-man, 7 match tourny, but its never happened.
Humm, which brand wolud get it?
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I think that because they watered down the tourny so much, people wont have much interest.
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Old 01-02-2005, 11:42 PM   #7
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Humm, which brand wolud get it?
Doesn't really matter to me.

I just think those 11 PPVs besides the "Big 4" need something extra, so KOTR would be something to separate it and make it seem special.

If i had to pick, I guess it would be RAW because they have the deeper roster right now.
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Old 01-02-2005, 11:43 PM   #8
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King of the Ring is a double edged sword if you go the inter-brand PPV route. Sure you'd have a better tournament, but at the same time you'd end up with one brand (*cough*Raw*cough*) looking superior to the other as their superstar beat a superstar from another brand. (Before you say the Royal Rumble, the Rumble doesn't hurt the losing brand so much because a Rumble is much more chaotic and doesn't make a victory hinge on one instance).

If you brought it back, I'd have to say bring it back for Smackdown, they need more credible workers more than Raw. Raw has a ton of main eventers, the KOTR would give someone credibility (something that a Smackdown worker could use).
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I think that because they watered down the tourny so much, people wont have much interest.
Yes, they did water it down this PPV was one of the classic five at one point.
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If i had to pick, I guess it would be RAW because they have the deeper roster right now.
I thought about that fact also, but really, what good would the winner get on Raw. Sure there would be a short term gain, but they'd only be buried under the current main eventers.
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RVD sholud win it for SD and go on to face the WWE champion at SS but, I don't think he will be around for much longer.
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I thought about that fact also, but really, what good would the winner get on Raw. Sure there would be a short term gain, but they'd only be buried under the current main eventers.
True, but just in terms of a PPV, I think RAW could have a better tourny than SD. Well, SD could have an equally good show, but they'd never use the CWs on par with the heavys.
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True, but just in terms of a PPV, I think RAW could have a better tourny than SD. Well, SD could have an equally good show, but they'd never use the CWs on par with the heavys.
True. I could just picture a tourny with London, Rey, Chavo, ect and a few names (Cena, Taker *Have Taker join just to go after someone he's feuding with*, ect). Let the names draw the buy-rates, then the wrestlers hook the fans and pick up the win. Shame it'll never happen.
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Old 01-02-2005, 11:53 PM   #14
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I like it, but it has to have the element of surprise in it. It became more predictable than the Rumble.
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I like it, but it has to have the element of surprise in it. It became more predictable than the Rumble.
And see, if you let a cruiser or just a very talented midcarder go over in it, not only have you made a new star, but you've suprised the audiance.
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And see, if you let a cruiser or just a very talented midcarder go over in it, not only have you made a new star, but you've suprised the audiance.
Creative team letting a cruiser win a major tourny? What are you? high?
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Creative team letting a cruiser win a major tourny? What are you? high?
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I loved the KOTR. Getting rid of it was a mistake. It was an effective way of getting somebody over.

I'd love to see it brought back on Smackdown. If they don't want to do a PPV for it they can just do it on TV. I would have Charlie Haas go over as the first brand new King of the Ring, defeating Kurt Angle in the finals.
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Old 01-03-2005, 01:44 AM   #21
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I loved the King of the Ring, as well. I would have made Val Venis the winner of the 2002 one, BTW. It was generally a nice feeling to see him past the qualifying rounds.

I was just doing a list of PPVs for the year, and at first I only got 14 (I missed the second SmackDown! one in October I think) so I thought "I wonder if they'll ever bring the KOTR back?", so I guess it seems to be going around. I'd have it made a big issue, and have the only qualification be that you can't have held the World Heavyweight Championship or WWE Championship (from the time Chris Jericho held it, to the time John Bradshaw Layfield held it).

I'd have Muhammad Hassan and Carlito Carribean Cool become the finalists, and let them milk off that for a long time (make runner-up a dignified role, and allow that to guarantee access to the next tournament, even if they've become World Champion before then).

Have the tournament begin pretty much straight after WrestleMania, then have the finals at the PPV.
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Old 01-03-2005, 02:19 AM   #22
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They never should've gotten ride of it but they also never should've condensed the number of tournament matches on the card.

Part of the reason that it got guys over was because they were wrestling 3 matches in a night.
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I wouldn't wanna see it back right now. With the way the current writing and booking in the WWE is, I just know the PPV wouldn't work or draw. However, I would LOVE the idea of TNA doing one.
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WWE doin King of the Ring again.

Back in the day I would leap all over this and could not wait for somethin like this to happen but now seeing how WWE is about a lotta stuff I would not want to see it. I mean even though it was one of my fav. PPVs it's name has been soiled more than enough now that if they were to have another one then the name KOTR will be turned to mud and that isn't cool.
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Two many PPV's in WWE these days I think it should bring KOTR back and drop these stupid PPV's that they want you to spend money on
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An inter-brand KOTR would be great in my opinion, and like was already suggested, the winner gets a shot at his brands title at SummerSlam. So if Orton won the Rumble, he would face the World Champion at WrestleMania, then you have John Cena win the KOTR and face the WWE Champion at SummerSlam.

If TPWW was in charge it would be great, but because its WWE they would balls it up.

But I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.
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They should do a King of the Ring again! I can see the 8 competitors now!

HHH
Undertaker
Ric Flair
Heidenreich
Shawn Michaels
JBL
Randy Orton
John Cena

Hell, it'd be the greatest snooze fest ever! It'd put Unisom out of business!
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Old 01-03-2005, 11:19 PM   #29
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And see, if you let a cruiser or just a very talented midcarder go over in it, not only have you made a new star, but you've suprised the audiance.
yeah but this is the WWE.
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An inter-brand KOTR would be great in my opinion, and like was already suggested, the winner gets a shot at his brands title at SummerSlam. So if Orton won the Rumble, he would face the World Champion at WrestleMania, then you have John Cena win the KOTR and face the WWE Champion at SummerSlam.
Orton sucks. Cena's worse.

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Old 01-04-2005, 02:29 AM   #31
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I didn't read the whole thread, but here's how I would like to see KOTR 05 done, if they do it.

First and foremost, make it a one night tournment. Maybe put one or two people in as a favor, and have qualifiying matches on the shows weeks before hand. After that, here's now I want to see it turn out. Winner gets a world title shot for their show.


ROUND 1
The Hurricane
VS
Hardcore Holly (W)

Maven
VS
Daniel Puder (W)

Hassan
VS
Charlie Hass (W)

Shelton (W)
VS
Mark Jindrak

Lemme explain the first two matches in one segment... Of course I'm setting up Hardcore Holly VS Daniel Puder. The vetran VS The blue chipper... Okay, I wanna see Puder get killed since Daniel Rodimer SHOULD have won!

Hassan VS Charlie Hass... It won't be a clean victory to help keep Hassan's heat. But Hass isn't going to know that it wasn't clean, or maybe have someone on the ramp taunt Hassan so Hass can pick up the victory? Why?

Shelton gets a clean win over Mark. Which brings us on to round two...

Hardcore Holly (W)
VS
Daniel Puder

Hass
VS
Shelton (W)

Yes, I want to see Puder dead. I want to see Hardcore Holly hog tie and rape him. Make him pay his dues, the jail-house love way!

Hass VS Shelton will be a hell of a match, and they shake hands at the end.

Final match. Shelton VS Holly... If Shelton still has the IC title, give it to Holly. If Shelton doesn't have the IC title, give it to Shelton. So Shelton didn't go all the way, no big deal. He was the only Raw star to make it past the first round. Holly doesn't win it, he gets hell from some random dude backstage, turns into a fued.

Well, enjoy my two cents! Don't spend them all in one place.
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Old 01-04-2005, 02:33 AM   #32
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i always loved KOR.

but it should be a midcard thing, and not neccasrilly a PPV, but rather, just a normal show, and it would also give a chance to give the top carders the night off.

WOuld liek to see it prior to WM21 with:

Hassan
Eugene

Tomko
Maven

Regal
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Simon Dean
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would wanna see maven win it
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Old 01-04-2005, 03:17 AM   #33
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Here's ho I would book it if it came back:

RAW
Qualifying Round
Sylavin Grenier vs. William Regal
Winner: Sylvain Grenier via pinfall.

Eugene vs. Tyson Tomko
Winner: Eugene via pinfall.

The Hurricane vs. Steven Richards
Winner: The Hurricane via pinfall.

Muhammad Hassan vs. Tajiri
Winner: Muhammad Hassan via pinfall.

Mark Henry vs. Rhyno
Winner: Rhyno via pinfall.

Christian vs. Rosey
Winner: Christian via pinfall.

Val Venis vs. Rob Conway
Winner: Rob Conway via pinfall.

Shelton Benjamin vs. Edge
Winner: Shelton Benjamin via pinfall.

Preliminary Round
Sylvain Grenier vs. Eugene
Winner: Eugene via pinfall.

The Hurricane vs. Muhammad Hassan
Winner: Muhammad Hassan via pinfall.

Rhyno vs. Christian
Winner: Rhyno via pinfall.

Rob Conway vs. Shelton Benjamin
Winner: Rob Conway via pinfall.

Quarter-Finals
Eugene vs. Muhammad Hassan
Winner: Muhammad Hassan via pinfall.

Rhyno vs. Rob Conway
Winner: Rhyno via pinfall.

Semi-Finals
Muhammad Hassan vs. Rhyno
Winner: Rhyno via disqualification (Hassan snaps when he can't stop Rhyno so he assasults him with a steel chair).

SmackDown!
Qualifying Round
Hardcore Holly vs. Daniel Puder
Winner: Daniel Puder via submission.

Akio vs. Charlie Haas
Winner: Charlie Haas via submission.

Booker T vs. Rene Dupree
Winner: Booker T via pinfall.

Carlito Caribbean Cool vs. Jesus
Winner: Carlito Caribbean Cool via pinfall

Carlito Caribbean Cool vs. Tazz (This is a special match ordered by General Manager Theodore R. Long, because Carlito didn't qualify correctly when Jesus lied down for Carlito)
Winner: Carlito Caribbean Cool via pinfall.

Chavo Guerrero vs. Funaki
Winner: Chavo Guerrero via pinfall.

Mark Jindrak vs. Paul London
Winner: Paul London via pinfall

Billy Kidman vs. Scotty 2 Hotty
Winner: Billy Kidman via pinfall

Luther Reigns vs. Rob Van Dam
Winner: Rob Van Dam via pinfall.

Premilinary Round
Daniel Puder vs. Charlie Haas
Winner: Charlie Haas via pinfall.

Booker T vs. Carlito Caribbean Cool
Winner: Carlito Caribbean Cool via pinfall.

Chavo Guerrero vs. Paul London
Winner: Paul London via pinfall.

Billy Kidman vs. Rob Van Dam
Winner: Rob Van Dam via pinfall.

Quarter-Finals
Charlie Haas vs. Carlito Caribbean Cool
Winner: Carlito Caribbean Cool via disqualification.

Paul London vs. Rob Van Dam
Winner: Paul London via pinfall.

Semi-Finals
Carlito Caribbean Cool vs. Paul London
Winner: Carlito Caribbean Cool via pinfall.

Finals: 2005 King of the Ring
RAW's Rhyno vs. SmackDown!'s Carlito Caribbean Cool
Winner: King Carlito Caribbean Cool via pinfall.

Of course that is if Garrison Cade and Maven aren't in the tournament, and the rosters don't switch around (which I hope they do).
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Old 01-04-2005, 09:50 AM   #34
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I'd go back to how they did it orignally, when it first started just have the qulaifiers on raw/smackdown whatever and have who ever wins wrestle three matches, think it didnt help the tournment at all when it became semis only
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Old 01-04-2005, 12:52 PM   #35
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I think that because they watered down the tourny so much, people wont have much interest.
How could they water down a series of singles matchs? It's not like the KOTR tournament was supposed to be Hardcore or anything.


Also: Mike, I understand that you're new here, but from now on, could you be more specific with your thread titles? "KOTR '05!!!" sounds like it was a scientifically proven fact that the KOTR was coming back. When I entered this thread, I wanted to strangle a baby I was so excited...only to find another discussion thread. It made me so disappointed I was ready to strangle a baby.

And to reply to Corky, yes, the KOTR tournys did have low numbers. However, it also gave the oppertunity for major stars to rise. I've said many times before that Orton would be much more over now if he had that crown/giant trophy/whatever. And without the oppertunity to make Austin's most famous catchphrase, the WWE might have lost truckloads on merchandising. But seriously, the WWE appears to be interested in another gimmick PPV (With Taboo Tuesday this last year). They should at least experiment to see if the tournament fits them suitably. I think the drawing power of the winner (if booked right) would far outweigh the lack of a draw to the tournament itself. Then again, if they booked ANYONE right these days, they wouldn't have to cut corners at all, would they?
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Old 01-04-2005, 04:46 PM   #36
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How could they water down a series of singles matchs? It's not like the KOTR tournament was supposed to be Hardcore or anything.


Also: Mike, I understand that you're new here, but from now on, could you be more specific with your thread titles? "KOTR '05!!!" sounds like it was a scientifically proven fact that the KOTR was coming back. When I entered this thread, I wanted to strangle a baby I was so excited...only to find another discussion thread. It made me so disappointed I was ready to strangle a baby.

And to reply to Corky, yes, the KOTR tournys did have low numbers. However, it also gave the oppertunity for major stars to rise. I've said many times before that Orton would be much more over now if he had that crown/giant trophy/whatever. And without the oppertunity to make Austin's most famous catchphrase, the WWE might have lost truckloads on merchandising. But seriously, the WWE appears to be interested in another gimmick PPV (With Taboo Tuesday this last year). They should at least experiment to see if the tournament fits them suitably. I think the drawing power of the winner (if booked right) would far outweigh the lack of a draw to the tournament itself. Then again, if they booked ANYONE right these days, they wouldn't have to cut corners at all, would they?
Sorry,man I did not mean to mislead ya like that I'll be more clear next time.
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