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Puder [FAIRLY] 12 46.15%
Holly [FAIRLY] 3 11.54%
Puder [UNFAIRLY] 11 42.31%
Holly [UNFAIRLY] 0 0%
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Old 01-08-2005, 03:36 PM   #1
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Puder V.S. Holly: Who'll win?
On backstage wrestling.com, they said that Daniel Puder's first match will be up against Hardcore Holly, the article went on to say that the wwe is showing Puder that getting made in the wwe isn't as easy as he thought, or something like that. And also Holly has been training with Puder for hours each day. Who do you think will win this match? I want Puder to destroy Holly. But I don't think the wwe would have a newcomer defeat Holly fairly in his first match. I also think Holly would object and be a jerk about it. I think Puder will probably come close but Holly will eventually win. Can someone tell me:

1. Maven: Who was his first match against. And how did he do?

That might show how the wwe treats new tough enoughs. Thanks.
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Old 01-08-2005, 03:49 PM   #2
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On backstage wrestling.com, they said that Daniel Puder's first match will be up against Hardcore Holly, the article went on to say that the wwe is showing Puder that getting made in the wwe isn't as easy as he thought, or something like that. And also Holly has been training with Puder for hours each day. Who do you think will win this match? I want Puder to destroy Holly. But I don't think the wwe would have a newcomer defeat Holly fairly in his first match. I also think Holly would object and be a jerk about it. I think Puder will probably come close but Holly will eventually win. Can someone tell me:

1. Maven: Who was his first match against. And how did he do?

That might show how the wwe treats new tough enoughs. Thanks.
Maven faced Tazz.Pretty sure he tapped to the Tazmission
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Old 01-08-2005, 03:50 PM   #3
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Wasn't Maven's first big storyline with Taker though?
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Old 01-08-2005, 04:13 PM   #4
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Wasn't Maven's first big storyline with Taker though?
Wouldn't really call it a storyline. He eliminated him and then Taker beat the hell out of him. That's about it.
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Old 01-08-2005, 04:15 PM   #5
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On backstage wrestling.com, they said that Daniel Puder's first match will be up against Hardcore Holly, the article went on to say that the wwe is showing Puder that getting made in the wwe isn't as easy as he thought, or something like that. And also Holly has been training with Puder for hours each day. Who do you think will win this match? I want Puder to destroy Holly. But I don't think the wwe would have a newcomer defeat Holly fairly in his first match. I also think Holly would object and be a jerk about it. I think Puder will probably come close but Holly will eventually win. Can someone tell me:

1. Maven: Who was his first match against. And how did he do?

That might show how the wwe treats new tough enoughs. Thanks.
Yeah he wrestled Tazz and I'm pretty sure that Tazz basically killed him. Tapped to the Tazzmission as DeadManWalkin said.
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Old 01-08-2005, 04:24 PM   #6
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I think that the TE should face someone weak and someone who basicly has no fans. So when they win, there are no complaints.

Reading these boards, I think Holly has no fans. But I also hear he's stubborn and wouldn't move for Brock Lesnar in their match which resulted in his neck breaking, so I doubt Holly will alow the bosses to make him lose without a fight. Hopefully Puder'll win, that's why Maven has hardly no fans. He started losing straight from the start.
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Old 01-08-2005, 04:40 PM   #7
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In a somewhat releated Note, Randy Orton defeated Hardcore Holly cleanly in his first Televised Match
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Maven wrestled Tazz three weeks in a row in his debut. He lost the first two but then won the third in one of those 'flukey' wins that the rookies sometimes get.
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Old 01-08-2005, 04:51 PM   #9
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In a somewhat releated Note, Randy Orton defeated Hardcore Holly cleanly in his first Televised Match
That has to be the epitome of irony right there. While Orton was getting his first big push, it seemed like everyone was saying that he didn't deserve it.
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Old 01-08-2005, 05:10 PM   #10
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When Maven eliminated Taker, it led to a match on RAW where the Rock cost the Undertaker the Hardcore Championship to Maven.
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Old 01-08-2005, 05:14 PM   #11
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they're making puder a heel so I say he will cheat to beat Holly
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Old 01-08-2005, 07:45 PM   #12
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Puder will probably win with his hands on the ropes during a roll-up (as has been happening at house shows), but to really make him into a star, they should take the Ken Shamrock character, and add a little bit of Christian-esque attitude. Make him so naturally talented at ultimate fighting, that it turns him into an instant success in the ring. I would mark out so hard if Puder made Undertaker tap at WrestleMania (it won't happen, but if you made Puder think he's larger than the business, and doesn't care about Taker's legacy, it would be a decent little affair).

And Haz59 hit it right on the spot. Maven lost twice to Tazz, then he beat him in the third match they had (I think it was on SmackDown!), with an inside cradle/small package. I know Nidia was at ringside for Maven's win, but I'm not sure about the previous two matches (I think she might've been).

Maven comes form somewher ein Virginia, doesn't he? It would have been interesting to see Maven play the Jamie Noble-type character.
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I think it's a given that Puder will cheat in that first match. I think Holly will end up winning in the "feud" tho. Or at least Puder won't pick up a solid feud victory.
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Puder uses a illegal move and chokes out Holly.
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Old 01-09-2005, 02:41 AM   #15
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Puber vs Holly? Looks like we got another Mordecai.
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Puber vs Holly? Looks like we got another Mordecai.
I swear, if Holly and Mordecai didn't have that brawl that made Mordecai look like just a hardcore Dungeon and Dragons fan, Mordecai could have gotten over.
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I hate fuck holly I hope Puder pulls a brock on him. I'd be his mark then.


What the hell did holly do in that match too?
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