HHH Appreciation Thread

**Thriller** · 01-30-2005, 01:09 PM

I cant't take this anymore i gotta get this of my chest.Will all you HHH haters please shut the fuck up.I ve been on these forumns for almost year and almost every thread i go to i have to subject myself to constant pissing and moaning about from all 95 % of the tpww members and im sick of it.

every one says that HHH is holding people down and its because he has all this stroke hmmmmm lets think about this.where would :Batista,Orton,Benjamin,Eugene be.How over would Benoit be right now if it wasnt for HHH.How many top stars have been elevated if it wasnt for there fueds with HHH.Lets see who was Y2Js fid\rst big storyline/fued against ,what about Kurt Angles.If he was as big as an ego maniac as everyone makes him out to be why would he bother wasting his time with wrestlers who are green or people wouldnt normally give a shit about.

If you ask me HHH is the reason will will be watching the rumble tonight as apposed the a walker on a pole match in WcW when Austin ,Taker and HBK.Who carried the flag thats right it was HHH and The Rock and where is the rock now.Making movies.HHH is dedicated to the buisness all the crap he has put up with the WWE would make a lesser man quit.But he didnt.HHH deserves every thing hes gotten.He has paid his dues Aand is also one of the greatest if noit greated total package wrestler.So HHH i salute you.

**Mayo** · 01-30-2005, 01:23 PM

Definite Rep for you!

I think that people are just sick of seeing HHH on tv all the time and they don't appreciate him enough. HHH is the Flair of the last decade, hes the guy that's always got the belt and everybody loves to hate him.

**CBright7831** · 01-30-2005, 01:29 PM

I agree with your post.

Most of these people on here are idiots.

If you don't do what they say and fall in line, they will try to tear you apart.

**The Answer** · 01-30-2005, 01:37 PM

HHH is "The game" he is a great technical wrestler and his psychological promo's are top notch

**McLegend** · 01-30-2005, 01:44 PM

HHH is the man, but he's not a technial wrestler Deadmanwalkin.

HHH still remains the most fun to watch on RAW. I watch Raw because of HHH.

**The Answer** · 01-30-2005, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by legend

HHH is the man, but he's not a technial wrestler Deadmanwalkin.

HHH still remains the most fun to watch on RAW. I watch Raw because of HHH.

Well he isn't a brawler so would would you call him?

**McLegend** · 01-30-2005, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadManWalkin

Well he isn't a brawler so would would you call him?

HHH is a brawler. All of his famous matches are streetfights.

But this thread is about praising HHH and in all his glory so who really cares right now.

**Eunos** · 01-30-2005, 01:43 PM

I don't agree with his backstage politics and he does irritate me.

But i have to admit sometimes he can be quite entertaining.

I just think he should give others a chance to main event every now and then.

**Thriller** · 01-30-2005, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Eunos

I don't agree with his backstage politics and he does irritate me.

But i have to admit sometimes he can be quite entertaining.

I just think he should give others a chance to main event every now and then.

How do you know about backstage politics?Are you there backstage?Its an assumtion that since h's vince son in law that he has all this pull.But news flash Vince makes the descions not HHH.Realistcally who else as a heel would garner as much heel heat as HHH is therefore its understandable hes maint event.It vince fault not trips.Plus if HHH had so much pull WWE would lose so many guys.Imagine Y2J on TNA.That be a huge impact(no Pun intented)

**VJW** · 01-30-2005, 02:10 PM

I like HHH but it's still fun to make jokes about him.

**Thriller** · 01-30-2005, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by VJW

I like HHH but it's still fun to make jokes about him.

Its one thing to make jokes once in awhile but its a common thing.

**KingofOldSchool** · 01-30-2005, 02:24 PM

I love Triple H.

**Loose Cannon** · 01-30-2005, 03:47 PM

"How over would Benoit be right now if it wasnt for HHH."

Wow, holy shit. That right there proves you don't know jack shit my man. Who are you to tell people if they know what goes on behind the scenes when you clearly have no clue on what goes on behind the scenes.

There's a few people on this website who have talked to other wrestlers and who have read CREDIBLE sheets like Meltzers. I listen to them cause them know what they are talking about. Dave Meltzer has been writing his wrestling newsletters since as far back as the WWF goes. He and his crew know what they are talking about because they have been backstage, because they have talked to other wrestlers, because they've seen the bullshit politics that goes on. I listen to credible radio shows all the that have WRESTLERS themselves as guests and they will tell you what goes on behind the scenes. Did you read that article I posted about Patterson a while back? Guess Not

Yea a lot of people on here might just bash HHH cause of others. But I listen to those guys who know first hand what goes on in Titan Towers. I mean if I here a story on some bulshit website that "Christian isn't getting a push because HHH said he wasn't over," No I'm not going to believe it. But if I here it from Meltzer or from a few guys on here who I know are credible, I'm going to believe them.

And I can give you copies of the Observer from the past year, which clearly shows the ratings declining when HHH is on top. He's done shit for the business in terms of buyrates, houseshows, and TV ratings since he's come back from his little quad injury.

Yes, HHH was great in 2000 and was making money, but what has he done since then in terms of business? And yes, Vince has Final say. So why if his business is going downhill does he think HHH is the answer? Oh don't worry, just put the Title back on HHH, business will go back up. Oh here let's make Shelton Benjamin a star and have him beat HHH. Yeah, noe he's over like huge cause he beat HHH. Fact is, HHH can't make anybody a star anymore cause his starpower has declined. The fans don't want to see HHH hogging the spotlight anymore, they want to see someone different running things.

I'm just going to leave you with this and I want you to answer it. Why is it that HHH has to be on top all the time even though he's clearly not helping business? Why is it that when someone other than HHH wins the World Title, HHH's programs are seen more important than the Champions programs? Why is it that when talent begins to get over to the point where the fans are going crazy for them, HHH has to suddenly get invloved? Why is it that when guys come in hot from other companies to a point where they look like real threats, HHH has to be the one to beat them and make them look like they were nothing? There's a lot of questions to be answered there.

But I know one answer for sure. HHH IS NOT the answer to the WWE's growth, if there even is going to be any growth. As long as he remains in the spotlight, business will go nowhere.

**Loose Cannon** · 01-30-2005, 03:52 PM

And whomever said HHH is a great technical wrestler just made Lou Thez roll over in his grave. Yea, great psychological promos. WTF?

LK · 01-30-2005, 04:09 PM

Rep for LC

I will give HHH all the credit in the world for the stuff he did with DX and when he was champ around 2000 because at that time because he actually was the best but his politics are a fact.

You say he put over Angle. Do you know what the original plan for the Steph/Angle/HHH love triangle. Angle would get Steph and HHH would be face and go and have a real big feud with Angle. But guess who stopped that. Trips. Because he refused to be face.

**John la Rock** · 01-30-2005, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by legendkiller

Rep for LC

I will give HHH all the credit in the world for the stuff he did with DX and when he was champ around 2000 because at that time because he actually was the best but his politics are a fact.

You say he put over Angle. Do you know what the original plan for the Steph/Angle/HHH love triangle. Angle would get Steph and HHH would be face and go and have a real big feud with Angle. But guess who stopped that. Trips. Because he refused to be face.

Who cares about the outcome of a storyline? Angle became a HUGE star and went on to win the WWF title shortly after

Also HHH helped Jericho in 2000, he helped Benoit, Orton, Batista, and Benjamin in 2004.

You cannot tell me that Orton and Batista would not be as popular if it wasn't for HHH's influence

**John la Rock** · 01-30-2005, 05:24 PM

HHH is an easy target because he is married to Steph.

Of course Jericho (and probably only Jericho maybe Angle or Guerrero if they were on Raw) could take HHH spot

Why doesn't Jericho step up and play the politics game? Jericho can be as big of a star as he wants to be. Maybe the main-event spot is too much pressure for him? Maybe he doesn't care about main-eventing since he's all ready rich and popular?

**Loose Cannon** · 01-30-2005, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by John la Rock

Who cares about the outcome of a storyline? Angle became a HUGE star and went on to win the WWF title shortly after

Also HHH helped Jericho in 2000, he helped Benoit, Orton, Batista, and Benjamin in 2004.

You cannot tell me that Orton and Batista would not be as popular if it wasn't for HHH's influence

See here's the thing with all you HHH lovers. You all think that if HHH wasn't there that other guys would of never made it. That's just bullshit. I'll never understand this at all. I can't believe you're actually saying without HHH, Benoit would of been nothing.

HHH helped Jericho in 2000? Hey great program when you got your Champion cleaning up dog shit. Oh I love it. Gotta see the ratings there. You now what would of helped more? To see Jericho, Benoit, Orton, Benjamin get the best of HHH and then move HHH right on out of the spotlight. HHH then comes back after a few months and gets his big win. Instead what to we get. Guy beats HHH. Win over HHH isn't made to seem al that important. HHH beats guy. Gets Title back or steals whatever steam that guy had going for him. That's the story.

Let's see how they book Batista. Let's see if HHH loses to Batista at Mania and then gets his Title back at Summerslam or a little after that. Is that how you think it should go? Cause that's how it's been going for the past 3 years.

**John la Rock** · 01-30-2005, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

See here's the thing with all you HHH lovers. You all think that if HHH wasn't there that other guys would of never made it. That's just bullshit. I'll never understand this at all. I can't believe you're actually saying without HHH, Benoit would of been nothing.

HHH helped Jericho in 2000? Hey great program when you got your Champion cleaning up dog shit. Oh I love it. Gotta see the ratings there. You now what would of helped more? To see Jericho, Benoit, Orton, Benjamin get the best of HHH and then move HHH right on out of the spotlight. HHH then comes back after a few months and gets his big win. Instead what to we get. Guy beats HHH. Win over HHH isn't made to seem al that important. HHH beats guy. Gets Title back or steals whatever steam that guy had going for him. That's the story.

Let's see how they book Batista. Let's see if HHH loses to Batista at Mania and then gets his Title back at Summerslam or a little after that. Is that how you think it should go? Cause that's how it's been going for the past 3 years.

oh man LC you're way off here.

I'm not saying that they wouldn't make it I'm saing that he helped groove them into become main-event players in the WWE. They were good at first duh, but HHH made them that much better and more popular.

You care way too much about win/loss records

**Loose Cannon** · 01-30-2005, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by John la Rock

oh man LC you're way off here.

I'm not saying that they wouldn't make it I'm saing that he helped groove them into become main-event players in the WWE. They were good at first duh, but HHH made them that much better and more popular.

You care way too much about win/loss records

WTF, won/loss records? No, I care about seeing different people in the main event scene for more then 3 months. How did HHH help groom Benoit? Benoit has busted his ass for god knows how long and suddenly HHH is the one that groomed Benoit into a main event player. BENOIT WAS A MAIN EVENT PLAYER WHEN HE CAME IN. Why can't people get that. Same with Jericho. Same with RVD. Same with BooKer T. Same with Steiner. Same with Taz. Same with Goldberg. You have to understand, these guys werer OVER when they came in. WHY did HHH have to be there to beat these guys? Why? I don't understand why people in Titan Towers think HHH is the only guy who can give people rubs. Cause he sure didn't give Benjamin a rub. He sure didn't give Eugene a rub. Orton was doing great until someone made the decision for him to win the Title and then let HHH beat him right back.

Now tell me, what purpose did that serve? Just answer that question. Because I still haven't figured it out.

**Normal Is Me** · 01-30-2005, 04:13 PM

Fucking right Loose Cannon!

**Splaya** · 01-30-2005, 04:37 PM

Guys face it, we can love HHH all we want. I'm a HHH mark.

It's Paul Lavesque that we all hate

:foc:

**McLegend** · 01-30-2005, 04:39 PM

Theres no need to bring negatively in an appreciation thread.

**Innovator** · 01-30-2005, 04:38 PM

Amen LC

**Dagger Phillips** · 01-30-2005, 04:53 PM

HHH is the best in the buisness right now. That is a fact. There's no one in the WWE right now that compares. HHH is the most well rounded wrestler out there. He main events becasue quite frankly there is no one that can carry the ball right now. Add in that HHH is the wrestler that we all love to hate and it's apparent why he's in the main event almost always. He has earned his place, and he has helped get new stars over (Benoit, Orton, Benjiman and now Batista) HHH vs (insert name here) is a higher profile match than any other combination of wrestlers you can put together right now.

You could have a Orton/Benoit match for the belt at Wrestlemania and a HHH/Bastisa non title match and guess which one we'd all be talking about. Granted the Orton/Benoit would be a more technically sound match, but let's face it we want to see HHH lose. Bastistas face turn wouldn't work as well without HHH, and its things like that that cements him in the top spot in my opinion.

If HHH went over to Smackdown, it'd be a much better show. And if HHH went over to TNA.. well the WWE would have a real threat on thier hands. You can't say that about anyone else right now.

So I too salute HHH. Can't wait for him to have his ass handed to him by Bastisa, but still, I appreciate what he does.

**Loose Cannon** · 01-30-2005, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagger Phillips

HHH is the best in the buisness right now.

Just one question. Why do you say that? Is it because he's always in the main event? Is it because he always has the Title? Is it because he takes up the most TV time on shows? Is it because he's won the most Titles? You know, there are more then a handful of wrestlers you can place into those spots and they would be just as, if not more, over then HHH.

The #1 reason why people think HHH is the best that I hear time and time again is because he wins the Title a lot and he's always on top. Well no shit. To me that only makes you the best if you can draw in the fans and do good business. Cause believe it or not. Wrestling is a business. Simple as that.

And I don't knoe how anybody can keep a stright face and tell me that Jericho doesn't have what HHH has. There's a perfect example of the bullshit that goes on.

**Dagger Phillips** · 01-30-2005, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

And I don't knoe how anybody can keep a stright face and tell me that Jericho doesn't have what HHH has. There's a perfect example of the bullshit that goes on.

Jericho is nowhere near as menacing as HHH. Jericho can't cut a promo without it being a comedy promo. As much as I laugh my ass off during HHH promos at least he comes off as a serious competitor.

LC, I know I'm not going to change your mind, and I don't want to. It's obvious what you think of HHH and it has been for quite a while. That's cool. But why you have to come into this thread and talk like your opinion is the only one that matters around here is beyond me. Can't you just agree to disagree, move on, and let the rest of us enjoy this thread. It's only wrestling, not the end of the world. Get over it.

**Loose Cannon** · 01-30-2005, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagger Phillips

Jericho is nowhere near as menacing as HHH. Jericho can't cut a promo without it being a comedy promo. As much as I laugh my ass off during HHH promos at least he comes off as a serious competitor.

LC, I know I'm not going to change your mind, and I don't want to. It's obvious what you think of HHH and it has been for quite a while. That's cool. But why you have to come into this thread and talk like your opinion is the only one that matters around here is beyond me. Can't you just agree to disagree, move on, and let the rest of us enjoy this thread. It's only wrestling, not the end of the world. Get over it.

Jericho can't cut a serious promo? How long have you been watching wrestling or watching Jericho for that matter?

And I'm not going to agree when the starter of this thread came right out and bashed everyone who bashes HHH. And some of the reasons he gave were bullshit. If he came in and praised HHH and said he was great....Fine, I would of left it alone. I don't mind other people's opinions about wrestlers cause who am I to judge that? But when we're going to talk about HHH behind the scenes and that HHH is the reason we're all going to watch the Rumble tonight and that Benoit was/is nothing wihtout HHH, then I saying something.

**Thriller** · 01-30-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

Jericho can't cut a serious promo? How long have you been watching wrestling or watching Jericho for that matter?

And I'm not going to agree when the starter of this thread came right out and bashed everyone who bashes HHH. And some of the reasons he gave were bullshit. If he came in and praised HHH and said he was great....Fine, I would of left it alone. I don't mind other people's opinions about wrestlers cause who am I to judge that? But when we're going to talk about HHH behind the scenes and that HHH is the reason we're all going to watch the Rumble tonight and that Benoit was/is nothing wihtout HHH, then I saying something.

First of all i did not come here and bash people,i strictly stated the fact at how annoyed i am that no matter what thread i go to there is someone making a crack at HHH.First off as as big a mark as anyones of benoit.But he didnt not have the pops he has now if not for winning the world title.People talk about buyrates all they want but that means shit nowadays.People aren't big on wrestling as much as they were back in the day.Not too many guy could get a good buy rate.Eddie is as over as any star on that roster,but yet did he have good buy rates ummmmm no.From what ive seen ive seen plenty of people who agree with my statements i dont expect everyone to see my point of views infact i welcome the debate.But dont doubt how long someone has been a fan or there knowledge of just because they dont see things your way.

01-30-2005, 05:19 PM

This could be a hot stable-war right here.

**Londoner** · 01-30-2005, 05:33 PM

JLR-Who cares about the outcome of a storyline?Wtf? That's what keeps us interested.

If we didn't care about the outcomes of storylines then all it would be is boring matches that mean nothing. Explain yourself abit better.

As for your other point, HHH did not help Jericho, yeah sure Jericho got to be champ for a while, but who did he lose to at wrestlemania?HHH. Who's still in the main event now?HHH. Who hardly ever gets a shot at the title now and loses to people like Hassan at house shows?Y2J.

He did not help Benoit either. Sure he tapped out to him a few times, but who's storyline was made to be more important?Triple H's. Lets see, Benoit's first title defence was against kane, that was the match BEFORE last, HHH's match with HBK headlined the PPV and surprise surprise the buyrates did shit.So how do you justify that?

As for orton , Orton has fucked up since his face turn because of who?HHH. Who won the title off of him after just one month?HHH. Then there's Benjamin, yes i was impressed with how many times hes jobbed to Shelton, but then he just ahd to beat Shelton didn't he?He couldn't take another loss could he? And now what storyline is Shelton actually in?Cos I don't know. Batista is the only guy I can see him putting over, but lets see how long it takes for them to fuck that up.

**John la Rock** · 01-30-2005, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ThugLife

JLR-Who cares about the outcome of a storyline?Wtf? That's what keeps us interested.If we didn't care about the outcomesof storylines then all it would be is boring matches that mean nothing.Explain yourself abit better.
As for your other point, HHH did not help Jericho, yeah sure Jericho got to be champ for a while, but who did he lose to at wrestlemania?HHH. Who's still in the main event now?HHH. Who hardly ever gets a shot at the title now andloses to peoplelike Hassan at house shows?Y2J.

He did not help Benoit either. Sue he tappedout to him a few times, but who's storyline was made to be more important?Triple H's. Lets see, Benotis first title defence was against kane, that was the match BEFORE last, HHH's match with HBK headlined the PPV and surprise surprise the buyrate for shit.So how do you justify that?

As for orton , Orton has fucked up since his face turn because of who?HHH. Who won the titleoff of him after just one month?HHH.Then there's Benjamin, yes i was impressed with how many times hes jobbed to Shelton, but then he just ahd to beat Shelton didn't he?He couldn't take another loss could he? And now what storyline is Shelton actually in?Cos I don't know. Batista is the only guy I can see him putting over, but lets see how long it takesfor them to fuck that up.

man you're also missing the point

Angle became a star because of his program with HHH. The storyline worked and gave us an entertaining storyline and it pushed Angle to new heights. I like storylines as much as the next guy but I don't bitch about "what should have happened".

Also do you think that the casual fan gave a shit about Shelton before he wrestled HHH? I doubt it. The reason that Shelton gets big pops from the crowd and has a t-shirt for sale on wwe.com is because of the feud he had with HHH.

**Loose Cannon** · 01-30-2005, 05:51 PM

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Also do you think that the casual fan gave a shit about Shelton before he wrestled HHH? I doubt it. The reason that Shelton gets big pops from the crowd and has a t-shirt for sale on wwe.com is because of the feud he had with HHH.

Boom. There it is right there. Proof that what the WWE has done is convinced people that the only reason some wrestlers are good is because they worked with HHH. I mean they've done a good job of convincing people. What are you suppossed to think when it's been HHH all over the place for the last 3 years?

And that's exactly where my disagreement lies.

**Londoner** · 01-30-2005, 05:37 PM

the buyrates did shit* was what i meant, can't seem to edit because of a database error..

**Londoner** · 01-30-2005, 05:40 PM

How did hhh make them better?Ill correct the typos in my post when the edit function works properly again.

**Loose Cannon** · 01-30-2005, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Thriller

I cant't take this anymore i gotta get this of my chest.Will all you HHH haters please shut the fuck up..

Sounded like bashing to me. No need for the shut the fuck up part. That's really not the way to come off credible.

**John la Rock** · 01-30-2005, 06:07 PM

Also LC :

Jericho, Benoit, RVD, Booker, and whoever else you said We're not main-eventers in WWE when they came in.

Booker was a Main-Eventer in WCW sure but that was when people didn't watch and when business went under. Main-eventing WWE and WCW (at that time) are totally different

**Funky Fly** · 01-30-2005, 06:09 PM

Good gawd, LC.

And here I was getting ready to rip this topic a new asshole. I'll be brief. Pretty much everything LC has said up to this point is right.

And John la Rock's last statement about Benjamin is just wrong. Over on Smackdown there was sorta this tag team called the World's Greatest Tag Team. You know, Haas & Benjamin? Also went by Team Angle? They had innovative double team moves? Maybe you've heard of them? Benjamin had been impressive as a singles and a tag wrestler on Smackdown long before HHH "made him a star". Maybe if you noticed during that supposed star-making match, Benjamin had to tone down his mat-based style in favor of more brawling because HHH couldn't keep up.

**Thriller** · 01-30-2005, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Funky Fly

Good gawd, LC.

And here I was getting ready to rip this topic a new asshole. I'll be brief. Pretty much everything LC has said up to this point is right.

And John la Rock's last statement about Benjamin is just wrong. Over on Smackdown there was sorta this tag team called the World's Greatest Tag Team. You know, Haas & Benjamin? Also went by Team Angle? They had innovative double team moves? Maybe you've heard of them? Benjamin had been impressive as a singles and a tag wrestler on Smackdown long before HHH "made him a star". Maybe if you noticed during that supposed star-making match, Benjamin had to tone down his mat-based style in favor of more brawling because HHH couldn't keep up.

Sure he impressed people but no one gave a shit about him.did you hear that pop when he went to Raw no?niether did i.As for the match.its called wretling an is the art of telling a story.Not a spot fest

**Funky Fly** · 01-30-2005, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Thriller

Sure he impressed people but no one gave a shit about him.did you hear that pop when he went to Raw no?niether did i.As for the match.its called wretling an is the art of telling a story.Not a spot fest

Since when has mat wrestling been a spotfest? WGTT had 2 spots and rarely used both in the same match. We're not talking RVD here. If anything, Benjamin has more spots now.

01-30-2005, 05:33 PM	#31
Londoner One Of A Kind Posts: 22,178	JLR-Who cares about the outcome of a storyline?Wtf? That's what keeps us interested. If we didn't care about the outcomes of storylines then all it would be is boring matches that mean nothing. Explain yourself abit better. As for your other point, HHH did not help Jericho, yeah sure Jericho got to be champ for a while, but who did he lose to at wrestlemania?HHH. Who's still in the main event now?HHH. Who hardly ever gets a shot at the title now and loses to people like Hassan at house shows?Y2J. He did not help Benoit either. Sure he tapped out to him a few times, but who's storyline was made to be more important?Triple H's. Lets see, Benoit's first title defence was against kane, that was the match BEFORE last, HHH's match with HBK headlined the PPV and surprise surprise the buyrates did shit.So how do you justify that? As for orton , Orton has fucked up since his face turn because of who?HHH. Who won the title off of him after just one month?HHH. Then there's Benjamin, yes i was impressed with how many times hes jobbed to Shelton, but then he just ahd to beat Shelton didn't he?He couldn't take another loss could he? And now what storyline is Shelton actually in?Cos I don't know. Batista is the only guy I can see him putting over, but lets see how long it takes for them to fuck that up. Last edited by Londoner; 01-30-2005 at 05:44 PM.

01-30-2005, 01:09 PM	#1
Thriller Posts: 697	HHH Appreciation Thread I cant't take this anymore i gotta get this of my chest.Will all you HHH haters please shut the fuck up.I ve been on these forumns for almost year and almost every thread i go to i have to subject myself to constant pissing and moaning about from all 95 % of the tpww members and im sick of it. every one says that HHH is holding people down and its because he has all this stroke hmmmmm lets think about this.where would :Batista,Orton,Benjamin,Eugene be.How over would Benoit be right now if it wasnt for HHH.How many top stars have been elevated if it wasnt for there fueds with HHH.Lets see who was Y2Js fid\rst big storyline/fued against ,what about Kurt Angles.If he was as big as an ego maniac as everyone makes him out to be why would he bother wasting his time with wrestlers who are green or people wouldnt normally give a shit about. If you ask me HHH is the reason will will be watching the rumble tonight as apposed the a walker on a pole match in WcW when Austin ,Taker and HBK.Who carried the flag thats right it was HHH and The Rock and where is the rock now.Making movies.HHH is dedicated to the buisness all the crap he has put up with the WWE would make a lesser man quit.But he didnt.HHH deserves every thing hes gotten.He has paid his dues Aand is also one of the greatest if noit greated total package wrestler.So HHH i salute you.

01-30-2005, 01:23 PM	#2
Mayo not gayo Posts: 7,676	Definite Rep for you! I think that people are just sick of seeing HHH on tv all the time and they don't appreciate him enough. HHH is the Flair of the last decade, hes the guy that's always got the belt and everybody loves to hate him.

01-30-2005, 01:29 PM	#3
CBright7831 Posts: 1,008	I agree with your post. Most of these people on here are idiots. If you don't do what they say and fall in line, they will try to tear you apart.

01-30-2005, 01:37 PM	#4
The Answer R.I.P Eddie Guerrero Posts: 3,553	HHH is "The game" he is a great technical wrestler and his psychological promo's are top notch

01-30-2005, 01:44 PM	#5
McLegend Temporary Posts: 15,590	HHH is the man, but he's not a technial wrestler Deadmanwalkin. HHH still remains the most fun to watch on RAW. I watch Raw because of HHH.

01-30-2005, 01:43 PM	#8
Eunos Bastard Deer Posts: 1,385	I don't agree with his backstage politics and he does irritate me. But i have to admit sometimes he can be quite entertaining. I just think he should give others a chance to main event every now and then.

01-30-2005, 02:10 PM	#10
VJW Master Penis!!!! Posts: 946	I like HHH but it's still fun to make jokes about him.

01-30-2005, 02:24 PM	#12
KingofOldSchool ...IN HD!!!! Posts: 23,327	I love Triple H.

01-30-2005, 03:47 PM	#13
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	"How over would Benoit be right now if it wasnt for HHH." Wow, holy shit. That right there proves you don't know jack shit my man. Who are you to tell people if they know what goes on behind the scenes when you clearly have no clue on what goes on behind the scenes. There's a few people on this website who have talked to other wrestlers and who have read CREDIBLE sheets like Meltzers. I listen to them cause them know what they are talking about. Dave Meltzer has been writing his wrestling newsletters since as far back as the WWF goes. He and his crew know what they are talking about because they have been backstage, because they have talked to other wrestlers, because they've seen the bullshit politics that goes on. I listen to credible radio shows all the that have WRESTLERS themselves as guests and they will tell you what goes on behind the scenes. Did you read that article I posted about Patterson a while back? Guess Not Yea a lot of people on here might just bash HHH cause of others. But I listen to those guys who know first hand what goes on in Titan Towers. I mean if I here a story on some bulshit website that "Christian isn't getting a push because HHH said he wasn't over," No I'm not going to believe it. But if I here it from Meltzer or from a few guys on here who I know are credible, I'm going to believe them. And I can give you copies of the Observer from the past year, which clearly shows the ratings declining when HHH is on top. He's done shit for the business in terms of buyrates, houseshows, and TV ratings since he's come back from his little quad injury. Yes, HHH was great in 2000 and was making money, but what has he done since then in terms of business? And yes, Vince has Final say. So why if his business is going downhill does he think HHH is the answer? Oh don't worry, just put the Title back on HHH, business will go back up. Oh here let's make Shelton Benjamin a star and have him beat HHH. Yeah, noe he's over like huge cause he beat HHH. Fact is, HHH can't make anybody a star anymore cause his starpower has declined. The fans don't want to see HHH hogging the spotlight anymore, they want to see someone different running things. I'm just going to leave you with this and I want you to answer it. Why is it that HHH has to be on top all the time even though he's clearly not helping business? Why is it that when someone other than HHH wins the World Title, HHH's programs are seen more important than the Champions programs? Why is it that when talent begins to get over to the point where the fans are going crazy for them, HHH has to suddenly get invloved? Why is it that when guys come in hot from other companies to a point where they look like real threats, HHH has to be the one to beat them and make them look like they were nothing? There's a lot of questions to be answered there. But I know one answer for sure. HHH IS NOT the answer to the WWE's growth, if there even is going to be any growth. As long as he remains in the spotlight, business will go nowhere.

01-30-2005, 03:52 PM	#14
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	And whomever said HHH is a great technical wrestler just made Lou Thez roll over in his grave. Yea, great psychological promos. WTF?

01-30-2005, 04:09 PM	#15
LK It's Clobbering Time! Posts: 5,337	Rep for LC I will give HHH all the credit in the world for the stuff he did with DX and when he was champ around 2000 because at that time because he actually was the best but his politics are a fact. You say he put over Angle. Do you know what the original plan for the Steph/Angle/HHH love triangle. Angle would get Steph and HHH would be face and go and have a real big feud with Angle. But guess who stopped that. Trips. Because he refused to be face.

01-30-2005, 05:24 PM	#17
John la Rock That's how I roll!!! Posts: 4,437	HHH is an easy target because he is married to Steph. Of course Jericho (and probably only Jericho maybe Angle or Guerrero if they were on Raw) could take HHH spot Why doesn't Jericho step up and play the politics game? Jericho can be as big of a star as he wants to be. Maybe the main-event spot is too much pressure for him? Maybe he doesn't care about main-eventing since he's all ready rich and popular?

01-30-2005, 04:13 PM	#21
Normal Is Me blaaah Posts: 143	Fucking right Loose Cannon!

01-30-2005, 04:37 PM	#22
Splaya 1-0 TPWW Chess Master Posts: 17,211	Guys face it, we can love HHH all we want. I'm a HHH mark. It's Paul Lavesque that we all hate :foc:

01-30-2005, 04:39 PM	#23
McLegend Temporary Posts: 15,590	Theres no need to bring negatively in an appreciation thread.

01-30-2005, 04:38 PM	#24
Innovator Inno Knows. Posts: 43,710	Amen LC

01-30-2005, 04:53 PM	#25
Dagger Phillips Posts: 16	HHH is the best in the buisness right now. That is a fact. There's no one in the WWE right now that compares. HHH is the most well rounded wrestler out there. He main events becasue quite frankly there is no one that can carry the ball right now. Add in that HHH is the wrestler that we all love to hate and it's apparent why he's in the main event almost always. He has earned his place, and he has helped get new stars over (Benoit, Orton, Benjiman and now Batista) HHH vs (insert name here) is a higher profile match than any other combination of wrestlers you can put together right now. You could have a Orton/Benoit match for the belt at Wrestlemania and a HHH/Bastisa non title match and guess which one we'd all be talking about. Granted the Orton/Benoit would be a more technically sound match, but let's face it we want to see HHH lose. Bastistas face turn wouldn't work as well without HHH, and its things like that that cements him in the top spot in my opinion. If HHH went over to Smackdown, it'd be a much better show. And if HHH went over to TNA.. well the WWE would have a real threat on thier hands. You can't say that about anyone else right now. So I too salute HHH. Can't wait for him to have his ass handed to him by Bastisa, but still, I appreciate what he does.

01-30-2005, 05:19 PM	#30
Enjay Guest Posts: n/a	This could be a hot stable-war right here.

01-30-2005, 05:37 PM	#34
Londoner One Of A Kind Posts: 22,178	the buyrates did shit* was what i meant, can't seem to edit because of a database error..

01-30-2005, 05:40 PM	#35
Londoner One Of A Kind Posts: 22,178	How did hhh make them better?Ill correct the typos in my post when the edit function works properly again.

01-30-2005, 06:07 PM	#37
John la Rock That's how I roll!!! Posts: 4,437	Also LC : Jericho, Benoit, RVD, Booker, and whoever else you said We're not main-eventers in WWE when they came in. Booker was a Main-Eventer in WCW sure but that was when people didn't watch and when business went under. Main-eventing WWE and WCW (at that time) are totally different

01-30-2005, 06:09 PM	#38
Funky Fly The Satanic Mechanic Posts: 52,521	Good gawd, LC. And here I was getting ready to rip this topic a new asshole. I'll be brief. Pretty much everything LC has said up to this point is right. And John la Rock's last statement about Benjamin is just wrong. Over on Smackdown there was sorta this tag team called the World's Greatest Tag Team. You know, Haas & Benjamin? Also went by Team Angle? They had innovative double team moves? Maybe you've heard of them? Benjamin had been impressive as a singles and a tag wrestler on Smackdown long before HHH "made him a star". Maybe if you noticed during that supposed star-making match, Benjamin had to tone down his mat-based style in favor of more brawling because HHH couldn't keep up.