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Old 04-08-2005, 07:26 PM   #1
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TNA Impact gets no fan reation
So im sitting there today watching impact and they are making all these announcements.

The main event will be a lethal lockdown match....(no crowd reaction)

Winner of Styles Vs Abyss gets Heavyweight Title Shot at Hard Justice (No reaction)

Then the biggest announcement which should of gotten a reaction was that all the matches at the upcoming Lock Down ppv are gonna be in the cage. (Still No Fan Reaction)

The cage announcement is one big ass announcement and I know WWE fans would go crazy...hell when the indy fed by me made the announcement that they were gonna do it the crowd went crazy. But the TNA fans were acting like a member of the crowd just died.

Sadly I feel that this is why Impact is so boring lately. If the crowd was more like it was at the ppvs perhaps the show might be pretty good. But there not and thus Impact isnt the great to watch anymore

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Old 04-08-2005, 07:28 PM   #2
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TNA is a pile of wank. The sooner it goes under, the better.
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Old 04-08-2005, 07:35 PM   #3
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Can't wait to see the reaction they get at the PPV when they are on their 5th cage match of the night. Seriously, I really think we might actually see some people sleeping in the crowd. Literally
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Old 04-08-2005, 07:35 PM   #4
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TNA crowds are probably majority smarks. So they know that every match in a cage is a terrible idea so they won't cheer it.

Mind you this is speculation on my part
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Old 04-08-2005, 07:37 PM   #5
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TNA is a pile of wank. The sooner it goes under, the better Dusty Rhodes gets fired ( ), the better.
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Old 04-08-2005, 07:52 PM   #6
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I mean sure having one cage match would have been awesome. two would be aight but 6 or 7 is outright retarded. I mean how many different things can you do in a cage match? In one night? TNA really just shot themselves in the foot with this.

There was a time when Hell in a cell was done so much that noone really cared anymore. then it became like once a year and so when it came it was like "This is gonna be good."

If there was a PPV that was nothing but Hell in a Cell matches then talk about piss breaks. Man this is one of those breaks when you go take a crap for 30 minutes. I woulda been surprised if there woulda been any sort of reaction
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Old 04-08-2005, 07:55 PM   #7
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Now come on people, not just any promotion could kill a gimmick match quite as efficiently as they are going to. It takes a special company to do that.
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Old 04-08-2005, 07:57 PM   #8
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I don't watch TNA, but I remember they had a PPV a while back that sounded like it was actually good. Don't remember which one it was, but it involved that Alpha male guy (or whoever he is) fighting for the title.

But if Dusty Rhodes is their booker, I have to ask...does every show end with a Dusty finish or has he let that stuff go behind him?
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But don't worry, we'll still have Tenay and West jerking off about it midway through the sixth or seventh match telling us how revolutionary and great TNA is, as Jarrett pins someone else.
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Old 04-08-2005, 08:27 PM   #10
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If you go to Universal studios you get free admittance into the Impact tapings apparently. Half those fans are probably tourists who don't like wrestling probably.
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If you go to Universal studios you get free admittance into the Impact tapings apparently. Half those fans are probably tourists who don't like wrestling probably.
Yeah, that and TNA is still a pile of wank.

Honestly, how stupid did Dusty sound today? Also, 5 cage matches? Way to go killing the prestige.

After the AJ Styles match, I feel asleep!
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Old 04-08-2005, 08:43 PM   #12
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I watched some of it. I'll be sure to fast forward through the show again to catch a glimpse of some of the action. At least Kid Kash and Michael Shane could deliver somethin
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They just over do things. That's simply TNA's problem.
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Old 04-08-2005, 11:52 PM   #14
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So im sitting there today watching impact and they are making all these announcements.

The main event will be a lethal lockdown match....(no crowd reaction)

Winner of Styles Vs Abyss gets Heavyweight Title Shot at Hard Justice (No reaction)

Then the biggest announcement which should of gotten a reaction was that all the matches at the upcoming Lock Down ppv are gonna be in the cage. (Still No Fan Reaction)

The cage announcement is one big ass announcement and I know WWE fans would go crazy...hell when the indy fed by me made the announcement that they were gonna do it the crowd went crazy. But the TNA fans were acting like a member of the crowd just died.

Sadly I feel that this is why Impact is so boring lately. If the crowd was more like it was at the ppvs perhaps the show might be pretty good. But there not and thus Impact isnt the great to watch anymore
I think fans don't react because it's crap.

I want TNA to succeed, but let's be realistic here.
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Old 04-09-2005, 01:01 AM   #15
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yeah now you know it's sad when you are fast forwardin through the show and it still makes you yawn
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Old 04-09-2005, 01:46 AM   #16
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As long as Jarrett holds the title and the TNA name, it's royally fucked over to hell and back.

It's like Triple H and Steph porked one night backstage and made Jeff Jarrett. Has to be the explination for Jarrett never being able to get over himself.
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Old 04-09-2005, 02:57 AM   #17
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I could see a possibility for TNA to succeed but it would be doing something they're not likely to do.

If they brought in Kanyon(comes out of retirement), pick up Rhyno, get Sean O'Haire and team them up with Raven to form some kind of new Raven's Flock(dream stable)... get Raven to pick up the TNA title while O'Haire and Kanyon win the tag titles, then have Rhyno as the beast but eventually build up a feud between Rhyno and Raven. Or even a Raven/Kanyon feud would work.

That's just a basic idea, but it would be sweet and would probably bring in some ECW fans as well

also add Ultimo Dragon to the X-divsion and carry the title for awhile. AJ Styles could eventually move up into the World Title hunt later on as well.

I don't watch TNA so I don't really know what's going on, but they could also get Jeff Jarret, Billy Gunn, X-Pac and BG James to gather as another lead stable to counteract Raven but Raven eventually relinquishes JJ of the title, with the help of Sean O'Haire, Kanyon and Rhyno helping even out the numbers.

Something I thought of that I would like to see happen.
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Old 04-09-2005, 03:05 AM   #18
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AJ Styles, the #1 face in the company, has been taking second or third seat to over the hill veterans. Why the title isn't around his waist is beyond me.
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Old 04-09-2005, 11:32 AM   #19
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AJ Styles, the #1 face in the company, has been taking second or third seat to over the hill veterans. Why the title isn't around his waist is beyond me.
Duh. He's not an over-the-hill veteran.
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Old 04-09-2005, 11:53 AM   #20
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I stated in a different thread that TNA should strive to become a more credible WRESTLING company, to offset the "entertainment" of WWE. I think TNA had a brilliant concept with the Ultimate X match but there has already been about 6 of them(and they pretty much involoved the same people). I know WWE did something similar to this w/ the TLC matches but they were spread out over the course of 2 years not 14 months.

The other big problem I have with TNA is the amount of interfernce in matches- main events and undercard matches alike. I actually bought the last PPV(just to see the 4 Man Ultimate X Gauntlet Match, which was pretty good) and there was interfernce in over half the matches. With that much interference it's hard to get either faces or heels over as legitimate contenders. That's why I've become an RoH mark over teh last year. Every wrestler in the company is presented as a legit competitor and with the whole Code of Honor, I don't have to worry about interference in every other match.
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ah well hopefully TNA will realise that its beginning to suck and do something about the booking - and stop all these bollocks backstage bits that have dusty rhodes and trinity and tracy. the next PPV is gonna be a train wreck....
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I stated in a different thread that TNA should strive to become a more credible WRESTLING company, to offset the "entertainment" of WWE. I think TNA had a brilliant concept with the Ultimate X match but there has already been about 6 of them(and they pretty much involoved the same people). I know WWE did something similar to this w/ the TLC matches but they were spread out over the course of 2 years not 14 months.

The other big problem I have with TNA is the amount of interfernce in matches- main events and undercard matches alike. I actually bought the last PPV(just to see the 4 Man Ultimate X Gauntlet Match, which was pretty good) and there was interfernce in over half the matches. With that much interference it's hard to get either faces or heels over as legitimate contenders. That's why I've become an RoH mark over teh last year. Every wrestler in the company is presented as a legit competitor and with the whole Code of Honor, I don't have to worry about interference in every other match.
marks don't care about wrestling alone! They want entertainment and promos too.
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Old 04-09-2005, 12:03 PM   #23
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AJ Styles, the #1 face in the company, has been taking second or third seat to over the hill veterans. Why the title isn't around his waist is beyond me.
I agree. It's just stupid business to not give him the belt. It's like saying in the Attitude Era, WWE doesn't give the Rock shit even though he was so popular.
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I wasn't trying to say that TNA should become a pure wrestling company where all the wrestlers wear black tights. My point is that TNA of 2005, is looking alot like WCW of 2000 and that is not a good thing. TNA needs a concept that it can grab hold of and base the company. ECW was "hardcore", RoH is "pure wrestling", the WWE is "the juggernaut of sports-entertainment", for a period of time WCW was " the promotion" when the nWo first started. TNA needs to somehow differentiate itself from its competition especially WWE. When I talked about RoH, I wasn't trying to say that TNA should emulate RoH, i was just pointing out my preference of wrestling. TNA SHOULD NOT go down the road of RoH, because, like you said, marks want more than just wrestling. The RoH concept only works on a small scale. For TNA to be successful in a cable TV market, they need to make themselves unique. The 6-sided ring is a decent start, overusing gimmick matches is not.
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Old 04-09-2005, 01:25 PM   #25
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It might help if the tourists knew some of the wrestlers, I'm willing to bet that only a handful that turn up have ever seen anything TNA related and there's only a few faces that average "I used to watch wrestling when it was cool" person would recognise.
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ah well hopefully TNA will realise that its beginning to suck and do something about the booking - and stop all these bollocks backstage bits that have dusty rhodes and trinity and tracy. the next PPV is gonna be a train wreck....
TNA will wake up or flounder out of sight.

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marks don't care about wrestling alone! They want entertainment and promos too.
So you don't make it purely wrestling. He said to offset the WWE which is more sopa opera drama than wrestling. All you do is make it more WRESTLINg than DRAMA.

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It might help if the tourists knew some of the wrestlers, I'm willing to bet that only a handful that turn up have ever seen anything TNA related and there's only a few faces that average "I used to watch wrestling when it was cool" person would recognise.
Might also help if they weren't getting mostly tourists.

Oh, I know they can't tour like the WWE, but they need more exposure and better access.
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Still, more wrestling and less drama won't produce ratings. People want to see a program b/c of its entertainment value mostly. Smcakdown! is more wrestling themed than Raw, and look where it's at. ECW was the only promotion that perfectly blended the two....unfortunately, they didn't have the time slot nor money to produce a great program.

To sum it all up, you need to have enterainment/soap opera to keep the fans watching. If not, marks will stop.
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Old 04-09-2005, 02:47 PM   #29
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Still, more wrestling and less drama won't produce ratings. People want to see a program b/c of its entertainment value mostly. Smcakdown! is more wrestling themed than Raw, and look where it's at. ECW was the only promotion that perfectly blended the two....unfortunately, they didn't have the time slot nor money to produce a great program.

To sum it all up, you need to have enterainment/soap opera to keep the fans watching. If not, marks will stop.
Smackdown is a piss poor example, because what booking is there is generally poor, and it's not strong on wrestling either.
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Old 04-09-2005, 04:09 PM   #30
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ECW didn't perfectly blend entertainment and wrestling b/c they were never able to cross over into the main stream of things. To do so they would have had to water down their product. They did produce a great program by foregoing the snazzy pyro and entrances and focusing the entertainment on the rebellious nature of the wrestling and promos.
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Old 04-09-2005, 05:06 PM   #31
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It's pretty bad for TNA when none of this information surprises me.
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Old 04-09-2005, 05:54 PM   #32
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^I get the same feeling. Never mind whether we are seieng the beginning of the end for wrestling or not, this is the beginning of the end for TNA.

The reason why there is no crowd reaction is because 1) its too predicteble and 2) people like dusty rhodes and Jeff Jarrett are fucking the company over and have been right from the start, its only just become even more blatantly obvious than it was before. And 3) Stupid decisions like having every match be a cage match on the PPV as everyone has already mentioned is a ridiculous idea.
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Old 04-09-2005, 06:03 PM   #33
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not to mention how completely irritating and annoying the commentators are
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Old 04-09-2005, 06:07 PM   #34
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Don West is three shows away from having a stroke

West:" OH MY GOSH, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT TENAY!! WOW, JEFF JARRETT IS GOING TO FACE *insert next person to job to Jarrett here* AT THE PAY PER VIEW. ITS TOTAL NONSTOP ACTION.

Tenay(thinking)- Damn I miss Schiavonie.
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Old 04-09-2005, 06:15 PM   #35
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Don West is three shows away from having a stroke

West:" OH MY GOSH, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT TENAY!! WOW, JEFF JARRETT IS GOING TO FACE *insert next person to job to Jarrett here* AT THE PAY PER VIEW. ITS TOTAL NONSTOP ACTION.

Tenay(thinking)- Damn I miss Schiavonie.
Worse thing is Tenay is just about up there as they both go crazy for just about anything. You've got West screaming about a headlock and yelling "OH MY GOD!" and Tenay shouting TNA is where the action is!
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Old 04-09-2005, 11:10 PM   #36
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Worse thing is Tenay is just about up there as they both go crazy for just about anything. You've got West screaming about a headlock and yelling "OH MY GOD!" and Tenay shouting TNA is where the action is!
Or telling us just what Jeff Hardy is doing at the moment but paraphrasing it with "The Charasmatic Enigma."
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Old 04-10-2005, 11:37 PM   #37
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Then I saw Jeff Jarrett do his shtick and I said "Ah crap."
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Old 04-10-2005, 11:54 PM   #38
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ECW didn't perfectly blend entertainment and wrestling b/c they were never able to cross over into the main stream of things. To do so they would have had to water down their product. They did produce a great program by foregoing the snazzy pyro and entrances and focusing the entertainment on the rebellious nature of the wrestling and promos.

Not exactly. They were just ahead of their time, if you ask me. ECW has more fans at this very moment than they ever did while they were alive. That has to say something about their product.
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