No more matches! No more matches! *Raw Spoiler*

**KingofOldSchool** · 04-12-2005, 01:52 AM

Yeah so the Head Balding Kid called out The Huckster to be his tag partner against The Middle Eastern Connection. And got the fans to chant "One More Match" over and over again.

Why?

Yes the fans pop for him, but that doesn't mean Hogan should step foot anywhere close to a ring. He should not even be put over anyone. He's like 85 years old and he can barely lift up his legs to do the two moves that he actually does. I mean I hope he doesn't injure his hand, because then it would take away his ever terrifying Finger Wag of Doom, but then again he'd just get one of those mechanical hands ala Darth Vader.

Some people here are creaming their pants over seeing an old man Hulk get into the ring for his 900th "final match" at the expense of a young and talented worker who would benefit 900 millions times more by going over Hogan. Yet, these same people cringed at the thought of The Undertaker beating Randy Orton at Wrestlemania. Mind you, at least Taker is still mobile and somewhat active in the ring and Orton is already an established star.

Bringing Hogan back is horrible idea that will do NOTHING for the company. All he will do is take away other wrestlers heat, they will be too busy cheering the Orange Goblin to even care about the guys that are busting their asses to get over and stay over.

Hassan is still establishing himself and if he jobs to Hogan then he will become just another Sunday Night Heat mainstay. I mean, since Rhyno is gone I think there is a spot on Heat open.

Marty Jannetty was sooooo much better of an option, because get this...HE CAN STILL GO. Sure he is older, naturally, but much like HBK, Jannetty is still a really good worker. And he can stay longer and he doesn't have an ego like our orange friend.

Seriously, Hogan needs to go away. FAR AWAY. STAY THERE. Never ehhhhhhh ever come out. The WWE needs you as much as they need another Raw Diva Search competition.

**Gouda** · 04-12-2005, 02:33 AM

I'd handle it like this:

At Backlash you have Daivari job to Hogan, giving the fans what they obviosuly want. However, Hassan can still claim never to be beat.

After the match though, Hassan and Daivari beat down Hogan and HBK good. HBK no doubt already would have been busted open and severely beaten in the match like always so he'dbe tired already.

Just then... Marty Janetty runs out. Fans go wild. But what's this? Marty attacks Shawn!

Marty grabs the mic and says: "You had to pick a tag partner and your mind immediatley went to Hogan? What about me? What about ~~Raven~~ Marty Janetty?!"

**Kane Knight** · 04-12-2005, 03:05 AM

I'm as horrified as you, KOOS.

Seriously, this is a nightmare. And while I disliked the Orton/Taker bit, this is far worse.

**Bad Company** · 04-12-2005, 03:23 AM

I like Hogan. I just wish he came back as Captain America

**Kane Knight** · 04-12-2005, 03:40 AM

Wags his finger and throws his shield?

**SuperSlim** · 04-12-2005, 08:40 AM

Man this match is going to be the most ego driven match of all time.

I mean Shawn's ego? big.
Hogan's ego? BIG!

Hopefully Hassan won't be too screwed up from this match. He was on such a good roll as of late.

**Loose Cannon** · 04-12-2005, 11:23 AM

It's just to get a few more buys for Backlash and maybe drive up the ratings for the next few Raws afterwards. Does nothing in the long term, unless Hassan goes over Hogan, which there's a better chance of hitting a Royal Flush in a game of poker then that happening.

**Splaya** · 04-12-2005, 11:31 AM

See I like the idea of Jannetty coming out and turning heel. And although I don't believe Hogan should be in this match at all, I believe the Jannetty angle is the best way to go.

In all honesty, I thought for sure Michaels was going to say Jannetty before he started mentioning Hulk's character

**Londoner** · 04-12-2005, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

It's just to get a few more buys for Backlash and maybe drive up the ratings for the next few Raws afterwards. Does nothing in the long term, unless Hassan goes over Hogan, which there's a better chance of hitting a Royal Flush in a game of poker then that happening.

Exactly my thoughts. This is whats fucked up the wwe, short-term thinking gets nowhere and they still havent learned that lesson.

**Londoner** · 04-12-2005, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Splaya

See I like the idea of Jannetty coming out and turning heel. And although I don't believe Hogan should be in this match at all, I believe the Jannetty angle is the best way to go.

In all honesty, I thought for sure Michaels was going to say Jannetty before he started mentioning Hulk's character

Same here, it would've made more sense considering jannety's recent appreances

**wwe2222** · 04-12-2005, 12:34 PM

a) I know HBK has a big ego, however....He is entering a program with a young star who has not established himself yet and has already made hassan look pretty good last week. He then jobbed to his little manager this week after only a low blow. (Mind you this also came after tapping out to Kurt Angle at WM).

b) IF, and thats a big if, Hassan does go over Hogan/HBK, that could do alot for his anti-american character, etc.

c) there should still be a decent match in here somewhere as you'll get HBK and Hassan carrying most of the match until the end I assume.

d) There is a large group of posters who would be upset if Hassan was put over a Jericho, Benoit, etc.... You'd get all these, 'how can they job him to that guy, etc'. So putting him over H/H makes sense, if they do it.

e) Also, a program with H/H is a big time program, name wise. That would really help establish Hassan's name in the business.

Im sure ill get some 'neg' rep or whatever its called, but thats my opinion

**Kane Knight** · 04-12-2005, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wwe2222

a) I know HBK has a big ego, however....He is entering a program with a young star who has not established himself yet and has already made hassan look pretty good last week. He then jobbed to his little manager this week after only a low blow. (Mind you this also came after tapping out to Kurt Angle at WM).

b) IF, and thats a big if, Hassan does go over Hogan/HBK, that could do alot for his anti-american character, etc.

c) there should still be a decent match in here somewhere as you'll get HBK and Hassan carrying most of the match until the end I assume.

d) There is a large group of posters who would be upset if Hassan was put over a Jericho, Benoit, etc.... You'd get all these, 'how can they job him to that guy, etc'. So putting him over H/H makes sense, if they do it.

e) Also, a program with H/H is a big time program, name wise. That would really help establish Hassan's name in the business.

Im sure ill get some 'neg' rep or whatever its called, but thats my opinion

A) The same could be said for Undertaker and Orton before WM. Doesn't mean that he won.

B) YEs, it would be huge for the character.

C) They could probably do a great match, however It'll blow if Hassan jobs.

D) It's definitely different to put Hogan and Michaels over Hassan, but if Hassan could get a good rub off of a Hericho match, I'd be all for his loss.

E) Or squash him entirely.

**wwe2222** · 04-12-2005, 12:48 PM

I agree it doesnt hold much water if they squash him...but I see this fued going for a while hopefully (hbk-hassan)

Im just trying to play devil's advocate to all the quick naysayers

**Kane Knight** · 04-12-2005, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wwe2222

I agree it doesnt hold much water if they squash him...but I see this fued going for a while hopefully (hbk-hassan)

Im just trying to play devil's advocate to all the quick naysayers

Done right, this could be good, but I can't imagine it going better than the last dozen "final matches" for the Hulkster.

**KingofOldSchool** · 04-12-2005, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

It's just to get a few more buys for Backlash and maybe drive up the ratings for the next few Raws afterwards. Does nothing in the long term, unless Hassan goes over Hogan, which there's a better chance of hitting a Royal Flush in a game of poker then that happening.

That's exactly what I was saying.

**Funky Fly** · 04-12-2005, 07:19 PM

Gouda's got the right idea, though. Hassan is too new, by WWE standards, to be having a drawn out feud with Michaels and NOT end up getting buried every time.

Marty Jannetty on the other hand is perfect because he and Michaels probably like each other enough to be able to work a feud where Michaels clearly isn't the "better man". It could last almost all year if they're made to look equal.

**The CyNick** · 04-12-2005, 08:34 PM

I dont think it will do huge business, but it will probably means Backlash does a better number than it would have. I dont know what Hogan is getting paid for the show, but his impact wont go beyond that one show.

It would be nice if he would tap to Hassan, but he wont, and even if he does lay down (which he wont), it wont be done in a way to make Hassan the star in the match (Hogan learned his lesson from the match with Lesnar).

Might be a decent place to do an HBK heel turn though.

**Fox** · 04-12-2005, 08:59 PM

This angle won't do anything to further Hassan's character unless Hogan or HBK does the job for him at Backlash.

And considering Hogan wanted to return to the WWE as the "unstoppable Hulkster," I can't see him doing the job for these two newbies on his first PPV outing. In other words, bye bye Hassan. I was just starting to like the guy too.

**Corkscrewed** · 04-13-2005, 02:00 AM

Ya know... we should start a petition...

**KingofOldSchool** · 04-13-2005, 02:04 AM

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**Kane Knight** · 04-13-2005, 03:07 AM

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Anyway, when I originally saw this topic, I thought it was going to be about the lack of matches on Raw this week.

**RemyRed** · 04-13-2005, 04:00 AM

It doesn't matter if they ruin Hassan's character because it's a shit character to begin with. Daivairi is a better worker anyway. I dunno why they have him in a manager role.

04-12-2005, 01:52 AM	#1
KingofOldSchool ...IN HD!!!! Posts: 23,327	No more matches! No more matches! Raw Spoiler Yeah so the Head Balding Kid called out The Huckster to be his tag partner against The Middle Eastern Connection. And got the fans to chant "One More Match" over and over again. Why? Yes the fans pop for him, but that doesn't mean Hogan should step foot anywhere close to a ring. He should not even be put over anyone. He's like 85 years old and he can barely lift up his legs to do the two moves that he actually does. I mean I hope he doesn't injure his hand, because then it would take away his ever terrifying Finger Wag of Doom, but then again he'd just get one of those mechanical hands ala Darth Vader. Some people here are creaming their pants over seeing an old man Hulk get into the ring for his 900th "final match" at the expense of a young and talented worker who would benefit 900 millions times more by going over Hogan. Yet, these same people cringed at the thought of The Undertaker beating Randy Orton at Wrestlemania. Mind you, at least Taker is still mobile and somewhat active in the ring and Orton is already an established star. Bringing Hogan back is horrible idea that will do NOTHING for the company. All he will do is take away other wrestlers heat, they will be too busy cheering the Orange Goblin to even care about the guys that are busting their asses to get over and stay over. Hassan is still establishing himself and if he jobs to Hogan then he will become just another Sunday Night Heat mainstay. I mean, since Rhyno is gone I think there is a spot on Heat open. Marty Jannetty was sooooo much better of an option, because get this...HE CAN STILL GO. Sure he is older, naturally, but much like HBK, Jannetty is still a really good worker. And he can stay longer and he doesn't have an ego like our orange friend. Seriously, Hogan needs to go away. FAR AWAY. STAY THERE. Never ehhhhhhh ever come out. The WWE needs you as much as they need another Raw Diva Search competition.

04-12-2005, 02:33 AM	#2
Gouda It's Hammer Time Posts: 2,207	I'd handle it like this: At Backlash you have Daivari job to Hogan, giving the fans what they obviosuly want. However, Hassan can still claim never to be beat. After the match though, Hassan and Daivari beat down Hogan and HBK good. HBK no doubt already would have been busted open and severely beaten in the match like always so he'dbe tired already. Just then... Marty Janetty runs out. Fans go wild. But what's this? Marty attacks Shawn! Marty grabs the mic and says: "You had to pick a tag partner and your mind immediatley went to Hogan? What about me? What about ~~Raven~~ Marty Janetty?!"

04-12-2005, 03:05 AM	#3
Kane Knight Ron Paul 4 EVA Posts: 152,467	I'm as horrified as you, KOOS. Seriously, this is a nightmare. And while I disliked the Orton/Taker bit, this is far worse.

04-12-2005, 03:23 AM	#4
Bad Company Mad Posts: 26,228	I like Hogan. I just wish he came back as Captain America

04-12-2005, 03:40 AM	#5
Kane Knight Ron Paul 4 EVA Posts: 152,467	Wags his finger and throws his shield?

04-12-2005, 08:40 AM	#6
SuperSlim Oh Sht* Posts: 19,302	Man this match is going to be the most ego driven match of all time. I mean Shawn's ego? big. Hogan's ego? BIG! Hopefully Hassan won't be too screwed up from this match. He was on such a good roll as of late.

04-12-2005, 11:23 AM	#7
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	It's just to get a few more buys for Backlash and maybe drive up the ratings for the next few Raws afterwards. Does nothing in the long term, unless Hassan goes over Hogan, which there's a better chance of hitting a Royal Flush in a game of poker then that happening.

04-12-2005, 11:31 AM	#8
Splaya 1-0 TPWW Chess Master Posts: 17,211	See I like the idea of Jannetty coming out and turning heel. And although I don't believe Hogan should be in this match at all, I believe the Jannetty angle is the best way to go. In all honesty, I thought for sure Michaels was going to say Jannetty before he started mentioning Hulk's character

04-12-2005, 12:34 PM	#11
wwe2222 Posts: 1,398	a) I know HBK has a big ego, however....He is entering a program with a young star who has not established himself yet and has already made hassan look pretty good last week. He then jobbed to his little manager this week after only a low blow. (Mind you this also came after tapping out to Kurt Angle at WM). b) IF, and thats a big if, Hassan does go over Hogan/HBK, that could do alot for his anti-american character, etc. c) there should still be a decent match in here somewhere as you'll get HBK and Hassan carrying most of the match until the end I assume. d) There is a large group of posters who would be upset if Hassan was put over a Jericho, Benoit, etc.... You'd get all these, 'how can they job him to that guy, etc'. So putting him over H/H makes sense, if they do it. e) Also, a program with H/H is a big time program, name wise. That would really help establish Hassan's name in the business. Im sure ill get some 'neg' rep or whatever its called, but thats my opinion

04-12-2005, 12:48 PM	#13
wwe2222 Posts: 1,398	I agree it doesnt hold much water if they squash him...but I see this fued going for a while hopefully (hbk-hassan) Im just trying to play devil's advocate to all the quick naysayers

04-12-2005, 07:19 PM	#16
Funky Fly The Satanic Mechanic Posts: 52,521	Gouda's got the right idea, though. Hassan is too new, by WWE standards, to be having a drawn out feud with Michaels and NOT end up getting buried every time. Marty Jannetty on the other hand is perfect because he and Michaels probably like each other enough to be able to work a feud where Michaels clearly isn't the "better man". It could last almost all year if they're made to look equal.

04-12-2005, 08:34 PM	#17
The CyNick Make the IWC Great Again Posts: 8,922	I dont think it will do huge business, but it will probably means Backlash does a better number than it would have. I dont know what Hogan is getting paid for the show, but his impact wont go beyond that one show. It would be nice if he would tap to Hassan, but he wont, and even if he does lay down (which he wont), it wont be done in a way to make Hassan the star in the match (Hogan learned his lesson from the match with Lesnar). Might be a decent place to do an HBK heel turn though.

04-12-2005, 08:59 PM	#18
Fox "Ask him!" Posts: 10,075	This angle won't do anything to further Hassan's character unless Hogan or HBK does the job for him at Backlash. And considering Hogan wanted to return to the WWE as the "unstoppable Hulkster," I can't see him doing the job for these two newbies on his first PPV outing. In other words, bye bye Hassan. I was just starting to like the guy too.

04-13-2005, 02:00 AM	#19
Corkscrewed Posts: 18,357	Ya know... we should start a petition...

04-13-2005, 02:04 AM	#20
KingofOldSchool ...IN HD!!!! Posts: 23,327	NO MA'AM National Organization of Marks Against Aging Men

04-13-2005, 04:00 AM	#22
RemyRed My Opinion Matters Posts: 2,435	It doesn't matter if they ruin Hassan's character because it's a shit character to begin with. Daivairi is a better worker anyway. I dunno why they have him in a manager role.