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**BCWWF** · 05-13-2005, 02:53 AM

I made this post in the other topic, and that post wasn't at all about football, and I figured that this is just too damn good of a read to let sit alone. You guys can hold me to anything that I say in this thread, as I think it covers every little detail possible in the preseason.

1. The original No. 1 was not applicable to this thread, so I changed it.

2. The Vikings offense will definately be a lot different. I think there is way too much pressure being put on Nate Burleson, to be the No. 1 reciever, and I guess Marcus Robinson is supposed to have a big role too now. I have heard some good things about Williamson in mini-camp so far though, like one of the first days he burned Smoot down the sideline for an 80 yard catch, so hopefully he can add some spark. I'm not sure what to expect, I'd never heard of him until the draft coverage started up.

3. I don't know if anybody saw, but Onterrio Smith, aka Steal of the Draft 2003, was caught at an airport security site with a "Whizzinator". I am pretty sure this is the system where you put a sack of piss up your ass and a little tube goes under your dick so you can pass drug tests. Anyway, he had drug problems in college (which is why he fell to the third round to begin with) and already had at least one marijuana suspension in his two years in the NFL. He will be done for the season if he is convicted here. Personally, I think he should be sent out right now. We got rid of Moss, this guy is worse, and we don't need him. He is our No. 2 running back right now, behind Michael Bennett, but our RB situation is really messed up as it is.

Bennett is pretty much our main guy (first round 2002 I think). He went for 1200 yards his second year, but the last two have been injury prone. Onterrio played a big role last year, playing first string some games, and has potential to be a No. 1 somewhere, potentially here if he is kept. Mewelde Moore is Alphabeans hero, and the games where he saw a lot of action (Bennett injured, Onterrio suspended) he went over 100 yards and caught the ball well too, but there are concerns about his stability. Finally, we drafted a new running back (weird name, Florida, third or fourth round) who supposively has some talent.

So right now there are five running backs who are all good. Moe Williams will still be around, he is the third down back and can do his thing, but he's 31 now. Mewelde will probably still play in the reserve role, but that leaves us with two more guys who are about equal with him, and we need to move one. It used to be Bennett, but after this I think it will be SOD, so I don't care if its for a sixth round DP, Smith has to be gone. Our running backs couldn't get the groove going last year because Tice decided to start a new one each week. We need Bennett to be ready every week, and he will be good.

Our running game is going to have to be a much bigger part of the team this year without Moss, and it arguably should have been a bigger part last year. The backs we have are definately capable, but now we need to use them right, and its not going to work on a rotation.

4. Unfortunately for the Packers, this shouldn't be their year. All they did was lose in the offseason. Brett Favre loses another year and is drawn further away from football (wife has cancer), lose starting safety to what is already is weak defense (to Minnesota of all teams), Ahman Green had a bit of an off year last season, and now he is having trouble with the law, and now their pro bowl reciever is holding out for a bigger contract, and Favre is telling the Packers that he is a douche and that they can win without him so not to give in. He was a big part in last year, he made it OK for Ahman not to have the career year that he was expected to.

Personally, I think that the Lions could be the No. 2 and possibly a playoff team in the NFC North. I don't know where I heard it (might have been here), but somebody said "Portland passed on Michael Jordan because they wanted a big man" in reference to Detroit taking Mike Williams. I think that is a great analogy, and the offense could really turn out well for them, and it will give defenses fits if all three of them stay healthy this year. Then they got Shaun Cody in the second round, who was expected to go pretty high in the first. Then I'm not going to count out the Bears because I think Cedrid Benson could be huge over there, and now they definately have the weapons on offense to win some games, as well as a solid defense.

The Packers really just didn't do anything to make their team better this year, and frankly they won the NFC North last year because Moss' injury helped the Vikings choke away some easy wins. The Packers weren't that strong last year and Favre was showing his age, and this year they are even weaker. The whole Aaron Rodgers thing is two sided. In one way, you want the Packers to add somebody to impact things and help Favre in his last year, but in the other side here is a guy who potentially could have gone first overall, and you have a quarterback with one, maybe two years left. I think the Pack made the right decision there, but could have been smarter in the second and third as well as in free agency.

I won't completely count the Pack out this year though, I did last year before I was reminded just how good Brett Favre can really be. They started out horrible and then came roaring back, so until I see the L's piling up next year, I won't say there isn't a chance.

5. The Vikings are a legit Super Bowl contender this season, you're hearing it right now. They could have been last season, but the young players on defense (and some veterans) blew it all away for them (Hovan, Dontarrius, Kenichi, Mixon, Russell, etc). What makes me confident that they are at least the second best team, if not the first, in the NFC, is that they should have a top defense this year, and it isn't all based around young players growing up.

Last year while healthy, Winfield was one of the top CB's in the league and easilly a pro bowl caliber player if he was healthy. The rest of the secondary frankly stunk, but now that is different. Corey Chavous, one of the smartest players around, is back at safety, and then they added another lights out corner in Fred Smoot and a very good safety in Sharper. Our third down backs will be guys who started last year for us, so I think we should have one of the top secondaries in the league. Then, the defensive line should also be one of the top in the league. All-pro Kevin Williams is back, and this year he will have better help. Last season Hovan hit the wall and was benched so he was playing alongside a rookie, Kenichi was essentially playing with one arm, and Mixon was out with a DWI and bad for the rest of the year. It should have been a great line but instead was just average. This year, Kenichi should be healthy, and if so he has a lot of potential (fell to middle of first round in 2004 draft because of the injury questions though). Then you have the new addition of Pat Williams in the center. Williams may not be all that great, but he can do the same thing that Warren Sapp and Tony Siragussa did, take up space and let the other guys get through. Kevin Williams will be next to him in the DT position, and then on the outside will likely be first round DP Erasmus James. I wanted to Pollack, but like Erasmus too. There is also the speedy Lance Johnstone available for the outside too. Then you can't forget CJ Mosley, the Mizzou tackle they got in the sixth who was expected to go 2nd or 3rd.

The biggest question mark though, and maybe the most important, is in LB. This was by far our weakest area last year, and we lost our only good guy to the Rams (Chris Claiborne). In the Moss trade, we got former first rounder Napolean Harris, who besides having a sweet name sounds like he could be pretty good as well. He is real confident coming into camp and is the self-proclaimed hardest hitter in the league. He will be on the strong side, then new addition Sam Coward (from the Jets in the sixth) will take the place of EJ Henderson at MLB. EJ next panned out well, and I think Cowart will be an upgrade. He sounds like he is a smart player, and that is what we need on defense. We used to have Greg Biekert, arguably the smartest MLB in the league, but not the most talented, and he did well leading the troops. Hopefully Cowart can do the same. On the weak side is our only real question mark, and that is will Outlaws Dontarrius Thomas come through. Him and EJ are both young and have loads of potential, but to this point neither have delivered. In Dontarrius comes into the season with better awareness then last year, I see big things for him.

Then you add that much improved defense to the second best offense in the league last season, second only to the record breakers over in Indianapolis. Yes, I am aware that Moss is gone now, and like I said so much during the time of the trade, he shouldn't be traded because he has more impact then any other player in the game. In a way I still wish we had him, but after the improvements to our defense it really cancels part of that out. I haven't looked at the numbers, but if we could have kept Moss while still getting Smoot, Sharper, Williams, Cowart and resigned Claiborne

But thats not the case so I will move on.

I think we will be alright without Moss. With him last season, we were arguably the best in the NFC behind Philly, without him we lost a bunch of bad games. The reason for that is because our defense sucked and I can think of at least three games where the other team won in the final drive. That will be different with the new defense, we won't be based on simply outscoring our opponents anymore.

With that said, I think Williamson will be a good pick. I don't expect him to have nearly the impact Moss had in his first year, but I think that he will make some plays and on occasion make a real good play, and that will do just enough to keep the running backs alive. Then we have Duante, a pro bowl quarterback who was unbelievable last year but was just overshadowed by Payton Manning for obvious reasons. Remember who it was that was supposed to break Marinos record after week three? It was Daunte. Then Moss got injured, yada yada yada, slump, crash bang, but Duante still had good numbers, which leads me to believe that he is capable of making things happen with the new No. 1 Burleson as well as Robinson and Williamson.

Finally, the running game is still there. The three guys combined last year were right up with the Tomlinson and Alexander last year, but because only one played per game none of them had impressive stat lines at all. This year, with one of them starting full time, I don't think they will be a Tomlinson or Alexander, but they will at least serve as a useful weapon in the now much more balanced offense.

There are still two big question marks left over from last year though, and at least one could provide for a dissapointment (which for me would be anything less then the NFC Title game). No. 1 is coaching. Mike Tice is back because he is the cheapest coach on the market, and nobody knows if he is capable of winning yet. He has shown some studder steps in his first two years. Then we had a good O-cordinator in Linnehan, but he moved away to the Dolphins and now our old O-Line coach took over (again cheapness). I worry about him for two reasons, 1. Tice was our former O-line coach and 2. his last name is Loney. That just sounds dangerous. I would say that I am scared because I've never heard of him, but then again I'd never heard of Tice Denny Green was on the rocks either. No. 2 is special teams. We let Gary Anderson retire a few years ago and suffered through Doug Brien (singlehandedly lost two games in 2002) and Aaron Elling. Morton Anderson is a great guy to fall back on, he did everything asked for last year, but as far as I know the Vikings are looking to bring in Elling instead of bringing Morten back. Dunno about that. Then its not just the kicking, the coverage was awful out there too. I am hoping that the new depth to the defense can help some of the guys replaced (Shaw, Henderson, Brian Williams, etc) get better out there. Don't know though. On the good side, apparently our punter has had a good NFL Europe season, so he should outdo the choke that was Darren Bennett last year.

I think that when all is said and done, the Vikings have less question marks then they did last year, and that they should easily be the second best team in the league, if not the best. Philly is completely up in the air with me right now, but I still expect them to be the top team right now. Atlanta is the other serious team in the NFC, but like I said so much last year I think they were a fluke. Their division turned out to be awful (Carolina sucked early on, same with New Orleans) and they had one of the biggest cupcake schedules in the league, even in the playoffs where they got St. Louis, who barely stumbled into the weak NFC tables. I'm not saying they were bad, but I think the Vikings could have beaten them in the playoffs, and I think there record was decieving. This year they got better with Roddy White, and I think they will be a legit top team now, but I'd assume that Carolina is back to normal and New Orleans finished hot too, so who knows.

NFC Predictions:
Philadelphia**
Minnesota**
Atlanta**
St. Louis**
Carolina*
Dallas*
Detroit
Seattle
NY Giants
Arizona
Green Bay
Chicago
New Orleans
Tampa Bay
San Francisco
Washington

** = Division Winner
* = Playoff team

5. Taste it

RP · 05-13-2005, 04:55 AM

Monday night. November 7th 2005. Monday night Football. If the Indianapolis Colts lose. There season is over.

**Triple A** · 05-13-2005, 05:00 AM

Cleveland is in the AFC, and it's Sam Cowart, not Coward.

RP · 05-13-2005, 05:02 AM

And San Francisco would smoke Cleveland.

**OssMan** · 05-13-2005, 02:31 PM

Vikings Nfl Preview

**MoRcHeEbA** · 05-13-2005, 02:37 PM

I still don't know why the Vikings don't trade for James or Alexander it's not like they can't afford to take on another big contract.

**BCWWF** · 05-13-2005, 04:40 PM

I spelled it Cowart, unless I had a typo on one of the times.

Also, I wasn't looking at anything and I couldn't remember the last team, if its not Cleveland, who is it???

**MoRcHeEbA** · 05-13-2005, 04:58 PM

Washington

**MoRcHeEbA** · 05-13-2005, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF

I spelled it Cowart, unless I had a typo on one of the times.

Also, I wasn't looking at anything and I couldn't remember the last team, if its not Cleveland, who is it???

Alphabean spelt it Coward probably as a joke since the very next sentence he spelt it right.

**RoXer** · 05-13-2005, 11:04 PM

I've said this at the end of the season last year, during the off-season, and I'll say it now...

The Arizona Cardinals will win the NFC West this year.

**BCWWF** · 05-14-2005, 12:56 AM

I think the Rams will, personally. They still have the offense intact and made just enough improvements on D to win it again. That being said, I have no idea what to expect from the Seahawks. They were supposed to be amazing last year but were just kind of :meh:, but I don't know what their predictions are for this year. As of now they still have their main weapons on offense though, thats why I have them kinda high.

The Cardinals really could be good, I liked their draft a lot. They got their corner, who should be good, and then getting Arrington in the second was a good pick too. I was surprised he was valued so low by the scouts, cause he was awesome on college. Then Fitzgerald could come out and do his thing too. I have two questions though, 1. Did they get Travis Henry yet? 2. Do they have a quarterback yet?

**RoXer** · 05-14-2005, 01:00 AM

1) No. I think they still have Marcell Shipp who will..get the job done. He puts up...decent numbers.

2) Yes. Kurt Warner. McCowen might learn a thing or two from him.

**BCWWF** · 05-14-2005, 01:03 AM

Oh yeah Kurt Warner. Even so, they could be pretty good. I was shocked when you guys didn't take Chris Hovan though, not that he is amazing or anything, but he would have fit in there. He's weird I guess.

**The Miz** · 05-14-2005, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF

The Vikings are a legit Super Bowl contender this season, you're hearing it right now.

Here we go again

**Gonzo** · 05-14-2005, 10:24 AM

The Vikings are going to be at best 8-8 this year.

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 05-14-2005, 04:35 PM

The Vikings have an easy as fuck schedule so they'll prolly wind up 9-7.

**MoRcHeEbA** · 05-14-2005, 04:54 PM

I'm going to the Vikings game when they play the steelers this year

**MoRcHeEbA** · 05-14-2005, 04:54 PM

vikings will probably start off 8-0 then lose to the gay Giants

**road doggy dogg** · 05-14-2005, 05:08 PM

detroit what

**Nervous Ferret** · 05-14-2005, 05:12 PM

Haha this reminds me of the commercial they play during the playoffs every year.

Ricky Williams has one thing on his mind, and that's winning football games.

**RoXer** · 05-14-2005, 09:47 PM

"Who did the Steelers draft this year?"

"I don't know, Ben Rollersomething"

**Nervous Ferret** · 05-14-2005, 10:49 PM

Well I guess I'll try my hand at hyping my team up before the season starts. So let's talk Jets. To start with losing Hackett was the best thing they could have done, and bringing over Heimerdinger can do nothing but help Justin McCairens. And of course, Lavernious returning is awesome, I don't think Chad and Santanna Moss ever really developed any chemistry, something Pennington and Coles had the 1st snap Chad took. The TE they got for the 1st round draft pick, (cant think of his name right now) is a big upgrade from the Becht/Baker schpeel they were trying to pull, and there is the drafting of Nugent, Miller 2 picks made most likely entirely to contribute to special teams. Damn have you seen Justin Miller return punts, holy shit the kid is fast. And yeah everyone knows what Nugent can do compared to Doug Brien,

. Eric Coleman and Derrick Strait are the future of the Jets secondary, Dewayne Robertson has become a monster, resigning Abraham will do nothing but get the D-line 10-15 sacks this year. And there's still rumor of Ty Law going to the Jets. And Vilma who is becoming a top linebacker, thngs are looking up for the Jets.

And of course they lost Kareem McKenzie, and Lamont Jordan, and Curtis is only getting older, we won't talk about those right now.

**MoRcHeEbA** · 05-14-2005, 10:58 PM

Pennington sucks balls

**Nervous Ferret** · 05-14-2005, 10:59 PM

throws like a girl

**The Outlaw** · 05-15-2005, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

Here we go again

Word. Getting prepared to hear that until the season starts...

BCWWF also said Randy Moss would be a Viking for life so ya know

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 05-15-2005, 02:53 AM

Vikings will be better off with Randy Moss off the team.

**BCWWF** · 05-15-2005, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Outlaw

Word. Getting prepared to hear that until the season starts...

BCWWF also said Randy Moss would be a Viking for life so ya know

Whats your deal? Its like you only come to the sports forum to write "lol' after people's posts that aren't funny and write stupid comments like this. Why don't you say something valuble if you are so much smarter then me. The last thing of any substance I can remember you saying is that the Miami Heat would be a bad team without Shaq. What?

**BCWWF** · 05-15-2005, 03:21 AM

And while you are at it, give me one good reason why I shouldn't be saying this? Are the Vikings not a legit contender? Tell me why? Were the Timberwolves not considered one of the top teams in the West before the season started? Are the Twins not the third or fourth best team in the AL right now? Its not like I am pulling shit out of my ass, after the Wolves started sucking I didn't come back saying that they were still the best team, and after the Vikings slid I didn't say that they were still a super bowl contender. Right now they are, and if you disagree then say something about it, don't make little smart ass comments.

**Nervous Ferret** · 05-15-2005, 05:27 AM

This year will be all about the R.A.P.E.

**Gonzo** · 05-15-2005, 09:53 AM

All I'm saying about the Vikings is that when they roll up into the Meadowlands, the Giants are going to make them their bitch again. What will this be, 4, maybe 5 years now?

**The Outlaw** · 05-15-2005, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF

Whats your deal? Its like you only come to the sports forum to write "lol' after people's posts that aren't funny and write stupid comments like this. Why don't you say something valuble if you are so much smarter then me. The last thing of any substance I can remember you saying is that the Miami Heat would be a bad team without Shaq. What?

Yes, because I said "lol" after his post.

And yeah Gonzo, the last time the Vikes beat the Giants was '01 I do believe.

Also, Im not really sure when I said Miami would be a bad team without Shaq. I said the Lakers would be a bad team without Shaq, but I dont remember saying the Heat would. I might have said the Heat would have more trouble without Shaq (obviously), but not a bad team.

Point me to the post though.

**MoRcHeEbA** · 05-15-2005, 03:14 PM

*points you to the post*

05-15-2005, 05:53 PM

why bother with this whole thread

Super Bowl Spoiler

Pats win again bitch

**BCWWF** · 05-15-2005, 05:53 PM

The thread is called Lakers-Clippers-Heat, go find it

**BCWWF** · 05-15-2005, 05:57 PM

I really think that this year the Pats lost too much this year. It looks like they can make up for Ty Law if last years guys stay that good, but I think Losing Troy Brown hurts them in a different way. He just seemed like a team leader out there. And then nobody could have expected Tedy Bruschi out, but I think that will be the big one to hurt them unfortunately. Who knows though, they are the Patriots.

05-15-2005, 09:53 PM

They replace everything they lose. If Ty Law was such a HUGE loss then why hasn't he been signed by anybody yet? Brown really was at the end of his career and picking up Terrel could be huge, plus they gotta get Bethal Johnson more time. I still smell a threepeat

**MoRcHeEbA** · 05-15-2005, 10:00 PM

losing both co-ordinators would hurt the best team but I don't see why the Pats wont win the AFC unless some stupid team like the gay Jets surprise them or something.

**BCWWF** · 05-16-2005, 05:21 PM

Yeah, I said that losing Brown and Law would hurt but not too bad, but I said what would hurt them the most would be Bruschi. How do you make up for that?

**The Outlaw** · 05-16-2005, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF

The thread is called Lakers-Clippers-Heat, go find it

Nope. It isn't there.

Next?

And just to make this post not completely off topic, Minnesota will go 13-3 and win the Super Bowl. You heard it here first guys.

**BCWWF** · 05-16-2005, 07:18 PM

Thats going out on a limb

05-13-2005, 02:53 AM	#1
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	NFL 2006 Preview I made this post in the other topic, and that post wasn't at all about football, and I figured that this is just too damn good of a read to let sit alone. You guys can hold me to anything that I say in this thread, as I think it covers every little detail possible in the preseason. 1. The original No. 1 was not applicable to this thread, so I changed it. 2. The Vikings offense will definately be a lot different. I think there is way too much pressure being put on Nate Burleson, to be the No. 1 reciever, and I guess Marcus Robinson is supposed to have a big role too now. I have heard some good things about Williamson in mini-camp so far though, like one of the first days he burned Smoot down the sideline for an 80 yard catch, so hopefully he can add some spark. I'm not sure what to expect, I'd never heard of him until the draft coverage started up. 3. I don't know if anybody saw, but Onterrio Smith, aka Steal of the Draft 2003, was caught at an airport security site with a "Whizzinator". I am pretty sure this is the system where you put a sack of piss up your ass and a little tube goes under your dick so you can pass drug tests. Anyway, he had drug problems in college (which is why he fell to the third round to begin with) and already had at least one marijuana suspension in his two years in the NFL. He will be done for the season if he is convicted here. Personally, I think he should be sent out right now. We got rid of Moss, this guy is worse, and we don't need him. He is our No. 2 running back right now, behind Michael Bennett, but our RB situation is really messed up as it is. Bennett is pretty much our main guy (first round 2002 I think). He went for 1200 yards his second year, but the last two have been injury prone. Onterrio played a big role last year, playing first string some games, and has potential to be a No. 1 somewhere, potentially here if he is kept. Mewelde Moore is Alphabeans hero, and the games where he saw a lot of action (Bennett injured, Onterrio suspended) he went over 100 yards and caught the ball well too, but there are concerns about his stability. Finally, we drafted a new running back (weird name, Florida, third or fourth round) who supposively has some talent. So right now there are five running backs who are all good. Moe Williams will still be around, he is the third down back and can do his thing, but he's 31 now. Mewelde will probably still play in the reserve role, but that leaves us with two more guys who are about equal with him, and we need to move one. It used to be Bennett, but after this I think it will be SOD, so I don't care if its for a sixth round DP, Smith has to be gone. Our running backs couldn't get the groove going last year because Tice decided to start a new one each week. We need Bennett to be ready every week, and he will be good. Our running game is going to have to be a much bigger part of the team this year without Moss, and it arguably should have been a bigger part last year. The backs we have are definately capable, but now we need to use them right, and its not going to work on a rotation. 4. Unfortunately for the Packers, this shouldn't be their year. All they did was lose in the offseason. Brett Favre loses another year and is drawn further away from football (wife has cancer), lose starting safety to what is already is weak defense (to Minnesota of all teams), Ahman Green had a bit of an off year last season, and now he is having trouble with the law, and now their pro bowl reciever is holding out for a bigger contract, and Favre is telling the Packers that he is a douche and that they can win without him so not to give in. He was a big part in last year, he made it OK for Ahman not to have the career year that he was expected to. Personally, I think that the Lions could be the No. 2 and possibly a playoff team in the NFC North. I don't know where I heard it (might have been here), but somebody said "Portland passed on Michael Jordan because they wanted a big man" in reference to Detroit taking Mike Williams. I think that is a great analogy, and the offense could really turn out well for them, and it will give defenses fits if all three of them stay healthy this year. Then they got Shaun Cody in the second round, who was expected to go pretty high in the first. Then I'm not going to count out the Bears because I think Cedrid Benson could be huge over there, and now they definately have the weapons on offense to win some games, as well as a solid defense. The Packers really just didn't do anything to make their team better this year, and frankly they won the NFC North last year because Moss' injury helped the Vikings choke away some easy wins. The Packers weren't that strong last year and Favre was showing his age, and this year they are even weaker. The whole Aaron Rodgers thing is two sided. In one way, you want the Packers to add somebody to impact things and help Favre in his last year, but in the other side here is a guy who potentially could have gone first overall, and you have a quarterback with one, maybe two years left. I think the Pack made the right decision there, but could have been smarter in the second and third as well as in free agency. I won't completely count the Pack out this year though, I did last year before I was reminded just how good Brett Favre can really be. They started out horrible and then came roaring back, so until I see the L's piling up next year, I won't say there isn't a chance. 5. The Vikings are a legit Super Bowl contender this season, you're hearing it right now. They could have been last season, but the young players on defense (and some veterans) blew it all away for them (Hovan, Dontarrius, Kenichi, Mixon, Russell, etc). What makes me confident that they are at least the second best team, if not the first, in the NFC, is that they should have a top defense this year, and it isn't all based around young players growing up. Last year while healthy, Winfield was one of the top CB's in the league and easilly a pro bowl caliber player if he was healthy. The rest of the secondary frankly stunk, but now that is different. Corey Chavous, one of the smartest players around, is back at safety, and then they added another lights out corner in Fred Smoot and a very good safety in Sharper. Our third down backs will be guys who started last year for us, so I think we should have one of the top secondaries in the league. Then, the defensive line should also be one of the top in the league. All-pro Kevin Williams is back, and this year he will have better help. Last season Hovan hit the wall and was benched so he was playing alongside a rookie, Kenichi was essentially playing with one arm, and Mixon was out with a DWI and bad for the rest of the year. It should have been a great line but instead was just average. This year, Kenichi should be healthy, and if so he has a lot of potential (fell to middle of first round in 2004 draft because of the injury questions though). Then you have the new addition of Pat Williams in the center. Williams may not be all that great, but he can do the same thing that Warren Sapp and Tony Siragussa did, take up space and let the other guys get through. Kevin Williams will be next to him in the DT position, and then on the outside will likely be first round DP Erasmus James. I wanted to Pollack, but like Erasmus too. There is also the speedy Lance Johnstone available for the outside too. Then you can't forget CJ Mosley, the Mizzou tackle they got in the sixth who was expected to go 2nd or 3rd. The biggest question mark though, and maybe the most important, is in LB. This was by far our weakest area last year, and we lost our only good guy to the Rams (Chris Claiborne). In the Moss trade, we got former first rounder Napolean Harris, who besides having a sweet name sounds like he could be pretty good as well. He is real confident coming into camp and is the self-proclaimed hardest hitter in the league. He will be on the strong side, then new addition Sam Coward (from the Jets in the sixth) will take the place of EJ Henderson at MLB. EJ next panned out well, and I think Cowart will be an upgrade. He sounds like he is a smart player, and that is what we need on defense. We used to have Greg Biekert, arguably the smartest MLB in the league, but not the most talented, and he did well leading the troops. Hopefully Cowart can do the same. On the weak side is our only real question mark, and that is will Outlaws Dontarrius Thomas come through. Him and EJ are both young and have loads of potential, but to this point neither have delivered. In Dontarrius comes into the season with better awareness then last year, I see big things for him. Then you add that much improved defense to the second best offense in the league last season, second only to the record breakers over in Indianapolis. Yes, I am aware that Moss is gone now, and like I said so much during the time of the trade, he shouldn't be traded because he has more impact then any other player in the game. In a way I still wish we had him, but after the improvements to our defense it really cancels part of that out. I haven't looked at the numbers, but if we could have kept Moss while still getting Smoot, Sharper, Williams, Cowart and resigned Claiborne But thats not the case so I will move on. I think we will be alright without Moss. With him last season, we were arguably the best in the NFC behind Philly, without him we lost a bunch of bad games. The reason for that is because our defense sucked and I can think of at least three games where the other team won in the final drive. That will be different with the new defense, we won't be based on simply outscoring our opponents anymore. With that said, I think Williamson will be a good pick. I don't expect him to have nearly the impact Moss had in his first year, but I think that he will make some plays and on occasion make a real good play, and that will do just enough to keep the running backs alive. Then we have Duante, a pro bowl quarterback who was unbelievable last year but was just overshadowed by Payton Manning for obvious reasons. Remember who it was that was supposed to break Marinos record after week three? It was Daunte. Then Moss got injured, yada yada yada, slump, crash bang, but Duante still had good numbers, which leads me to believe that he is capable of making things happen with the new No. 1 Burleson as well as Robinson and Williamson. Finally, the running game is still there. The three guys combined last year were right up with the Tomlinson and Alexander last year, but because only one played per game none of them had impressive stat lines at all. This year, with one of them starting full time, I don't think they will be a Tomlinson or Alexander, but they will at least serve as a useful weapon in the now much more balanced offense. There are still two big question marks left over from last year though, and at least one could provide for a dissapointment (which for me would be anything less then the NFC Title game). No. 1 is coaching. Mike Tice is back because he is the cheapest coach on the market, and nobody knows if he is capable of winning yet. He has shown some studder steps in his first two years. Then we had a good O-cordinator in Linnehan, but he moved away to the Dolphins and now our old O-Line coach took over (again cheapness). I worry about him for two reasons, 1. Tice was our former O-line coach and 2. his last name is Loney. That just sounds dangerous. I would say that I am scared because I've never heard of him, but then again I'd never heard of Tice Denny Green was on the rocks either. No. 2 is special teams. We let Gary Anderson retire a few years ago and suffered through Doug Brien (singlehandedly lost two games in 2002) and Aaron Elling. Morton Anderson is a great guy to fall back on, he did everything asked for last year, but as far as I know the Vikings are looking to bring in Elling instead of bringing Morten back. Dunno about that. Then its not just the kicking, the coverage was awful out there too. I am hoping that the new depth to the defense can help some of the guys replaced (Shaw, Henderson, Brian Williams, etc) get better out there. Don't know though. On the good side, apparently our punter has had a good NFL Europe season, so he should outdo the choke that was Darren Bennett last year. I think that when all is said and done, the Vikings have less question marks then they did last year, and that they should easily be the second best team in the league, if not the best. Philly is completely up in the air with me right now, but I still expect them to be the top team right now. Atlanta is the other serious team in the NFC, but like I said so much last year I think they were a fluke. Their division turned out to be awful (Carolina sucked early on, same with New Orleans) and they had one of the biggest cupcake schedules in the league, even in the playoffs where they got St. Louis, who barely stumbled into the weak NFC tables. I'm not saying they were bad, but I think the Vikings could have beaten them in the playoffs, and I think there record was decieving. This year they got better with Roddy White, and I think they will be a legit top team now, but I'd assume that Carolina is back to normal and New Orleans finished hot too, so who knows. NFC Predictions: Philadelphia Minnesota Atlanta St. Louis Carolina* Dallas* Detroit Seattle NY Giants Arizona Green Bay Chicago New Orleans Tampa Bay San Francisco Washington ** = Division Winner * = Playoff team 5. Taste it Dont Mess With Kids Last edited by BCWWF; 05-13-2005 at 06:22 PM.

05-13-2005, 04:55 AM	#2
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,992	Monday night. November 7th 2005. Monday night Football. If the Indianapolis Colts lose. There season is over.

05-13-2005, 05:00 AM	#3
Triple A Triple A Posts: 133,040	Cleveland is in the AFC, and it's Sam Cowart, not Coward.

05-13-2005, 05:02 AM	#4
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,992	And San Francisco would smoke Cleveland.

05-13-2005, 02:31 PM	#5
OssMan The Classic Dylan Staples Posts: 51,494	Vikings Nfl Preview

05-13-2005, 02:37 PM	#6
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	I still don't know why the Vikings don't trade for James or Alexander it's not like they can't afford to take on another big contract.

05-13-2005, 04:40 PM	#7
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I spelled it Cowart, unless I had a typo on one of the times. Also, I wasn't looking at anything and I couldn't remember the last team, if its not Cleveland, who is it???

05-13-2005, 04:58 PM	#8
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	Washington

05-13-2005, 11:04 PM	#10
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	I've said this at the end of the season last year, during the off-season, and I'll say it now... The Arizona Cardinals will win the NFC West this year.

05-14-2005, 12:56 AM	#11
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I think the Rams will, personally. They still have the offense intact and made just enough improvements on D to win it again. That being said, I have no idea what to expect from the Seahawks. They were supposed to be amazing last year but were just kind of :meh:, but I don't know what their predictions are for this year. As of now they still have their main weapons on offense though, thats why I have them kinda high. The Cardinals really could be good, I liked their draft a lot. They got their corner, who should be good, and then getting Arrington in the second was a good pick too. I was surprised he was valued so low by the scouts, cause he was awesome on college. Then Fitzgerald could come out and do his thing too. I have two questions though, 1. Did they get Travis Henry yet? 2. Do they have a quarterback yet?

05-14-2005, 01:00 AM	#12
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	1) No. I think they still have Marcell Shipp who will..get the job done. He puts up...decent numbers. 2) Yes. Kurt Warner. McCowen might learn a thing or two from him.

05-14-2005, 01:03 AM	#13
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Oh yeah Kurt Warner. Even so, they could be pretty good. I was shocked when you guys didn't take Chris Hovan though, not that he is amazing or anything, but he would have fit in there. He's weird I guess.

05-14-2005, 10:24 AM	#15
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	The Vikings are going to be at best 8-8 this year.

05-14-2005, 04:35 PM	#16
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,760	The Vikings have an easy as fuck schedule so they'll prolly wind up 9-7.

05-14-2005, 04:54 PM	#17
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	I'm going to the Vikings game when they play the steelers this year

05-14-2005, 05:08 PM	#19
road doggy dogg wekasauce Posts: 106,910	detroit what

05-14-2005, 05:12 PM	#20
Nervous Ferret love yourself Posts: 47,788	Haha this reminds me of the commercial they play during the playoffs every year. Ricky Williams has one thing on his mind, and that's winning football games.

05-14-2005, 09:47 PM	#21
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	"Who did the Steelers draft this year?" "I don't know, Ben Rollersomething"

05-14-2005, 10:49 PM	#22
Nervous Ferret love yourself Posts: 47,788	Well I guess I'll try my hand at hyping my team up before the season starts. So let's talk Jets. To start with losing Hackett was the best thing they could have done, and bringing over Heimerdinger can do nothing but help Justin McCairens. And of course, Lavernious returning is awesome, I don't think Chad and Santanna Moss ever really developed any chemistry, something Pennington and Coles had the 1st snap Chad took. The TE they got for the 1st round draft pick, (cant think of his name right now) is a big upgrade from the Becht/Baker schpeel they were trying to pull, and there is the drafting of Nugent, Miller 2 picks made most likely entirely to contribute to special teams. Damn have you seen Justin Miller return punts, holy shit the kid is fast. And yeah everyone knows what Nugent can do compared to Doug Brien, . Eric Coleman and Derrick Strait are the future of the Jets secondary, Dewayne Robertson has become a monster, resigning Abraham will do nothing but get the D-line 10-15 sacks this year. And there's still rumor of Ty Law going to the Jets. And Vilma who is becoming a top linebacker, thngs are looking up for the Jets. And of course they lost Kareem McKenzie, and Lamont Jordan, and Curtis is only getting older, we won't talk about those right now.

05-14-2005, 10:58 PM	#23
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	Pennington sucks balls

05-14-2005, 10:59 PM	#24
Nervous Ferret love yourself Posts: 47,788	throws like a girl

05-15-2005, 02:53 AM	#26
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Vikings will be better off with Randy Moss off the team.

05-15-2005, 03:21 AM	#28
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	And while you are at it, give me one good reason why I shouldn't be saying this? Are the Vikings not a legit contender? Tell me why? Were the Timberwolves not considered one of the top teams in the West before the season started? Are the Twins not the third or fourth best team in the AL right now? Its not like I am pulling shit out of my ass, after the Wolves started sucking I didn't come back saying that they were still the best team, and after the Vikings slid I didn't say that they were still a super bowl contender. Right now they are, and if you disagree then say something about it, don't make little smart ass comments.

05-15-2005, 09:53 AM	#30
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	All I'm saying about the Vikings is that when they roll up into the Meadowlands, the Giants are going to make them their bitch again. What will this be, 4, maybe 5 years now?

05-15-2005, 03:14 PM	#32
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	points you to the post

05-15-2005, 05:53 PM	#33
Gertner Guest Posts: n/a	why bother with this whole thread Super Bowl Spoiler Pats win again bitch

05-15-2005, 05:57 PM	#35
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I really think that this year the Pats lost too much this year. It looks like they can make up for Ty Law if last years guys stay that good, but I think Losing Troy Brown hurts them in a different way. He just seemed like a team leader out there. And then nobody could have expected Tedy Bruschi out, but I think that will be the big one to hurt them unfortunately. Who knows though, they are the Patriots.

05-15-2005, 09:53 PM	#36
Gertner Guest Posts: n/a	They replace everything they lose. If Ty Law was such a HUGE loss then why hasn't he been signed by anybody yet? Brown really was at the end of his career and picking up Terrel could be huge, plus they gotta get Bethal Johnson more time. I still smell a threepeat

05-15-2005, 10:00 PM	#37
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	losing both co-ordinators would hurt the best team but I don't see why the Pats wont win the AFC unless some stupid team like the gay Jets surprise them or something.

05-16-2005, 05:21 PM	#38
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Yeah, I said that losing Brown and Law would hurt but not too bad, but I said what would hurt them the most would be Bruschi. How do you make up for that?

05-16-2005, 07:18 PM	#40
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Thats going out on a limb