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Old 05-22-2005, 01:21 PM   #1
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Who is...?
I got thinking of various terms used in wrestling the other day, and was thinking of the sheer number of people who use the term "The franchise." It got me wondering who people considered the actual franchise of wrestling.

Given the limits of most people's viewing capacities, try and keep it to the televised US promotions. Try and keep it semi-current, since it's hard to compare history to the present.

Who is:

The Franchise? The person most synonymous with pro wrestling.

The most successful? Success is hard to measure in a fake sport, but give an opinion anyway.

Best face? Best Heel?

The most over? Whether face or heel, or success in those.

The most recognised? Not necessarily because of wrestling.

The best pure athelete? Ring skills primarily

Best on the stick...Period? Mic/promo skills

Best non-wrestling talent? Managers, valets, commentary

Your favorite?

Best onscreen authority figure?

“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”

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Old 05-22-2005, 01:26 PM   #2
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The Franchise? TripleH
The most successful? TripleH
Best face?Bret Hart Best Heel? Triple H

The most over? The Rock

The most recognised? The Rock

The best pure athelete? Chris Jericho

Best on the stick...Period? Chris Jericho ...w/ The Rock as a close second

Best non-wrestling talent? ________

Your favorite?Chris Jericho

Best onscreen authority figure?Mr Mcmahon(spelling)
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Old 05-22-2005, 01:35 PM   #3
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The Franchise? Hogan

The most successful? Flair

Best face? Rock or Austin

Best Heel? HHH

The most over? Jericho

The most recognised? Hogan

The best pure athelete? AJ Styles

Best on the stick...Period? Jericho

Best non-wrestling talent? Fonzy

Your favorite? Jericho

Best onscreen authority figure? McMahon
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Old 05-22-2005, 01:37 PM   #4
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The Franchise? Austin

The most successful? The Rock, he's become so much more than a wrestler

Best face? The Rock electrifies anywhere he goes

The most over? Tough one because of so many alternative demographics, but probably Batista at the moment

The most recognised? Hogan, without doubt

The best pure athelete? Angle consistently amazes

Best on the stick...Period? JBL

Best non-wrestling talent? Tazz

Your favorite? Paul London or Jericho

Best onscreen authority figure? Heyman, at least he was
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Old 05-22-2005, 01:44 PM   #5
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The Franchise? As much as I hate to admit it, Hulk Hogan

The most successful? The Rock, in terms of success both in and out of the ring

Best face? This is hard, since I normally don't like faces. But I guess I'd give the nod to Shawn Michaels.

Best Heel? Kurt Angle. I love the guy's intensity as a heel.

The most over? I suppose Hogan

The most recognised? Hogan or The Rock

The best pure athelete? Shelton Benjamin

Best on the stick...Period? Christian

Best non-wrestling talent? Daivari, but I guess he kinda wrestles, so The Coach

Your favorite? Lovin' Captain Charisma right now

Best onscreen authority figure? This role has been stale forever, and no matter who's in it, I probably won't care. But it'd have to be McMahon.
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Old 05-22-2005, 01:57 PM   #6
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Who is:

The Franchise? Hulk Hogan, but Austin deserves it more.

The most successful? Vince McMahon

Best face? Stone Cold

Best Heel? Ric Flair

The most over? Stone Cold

The most recognised? Hulk Hogan

The best pure athelete? Kurt Angle

Best on the stick...Period? Ric Flair

Best non-wrestling talent? Bobby Heenan

Your favorite? Sting/Ric Flair

Best onscreen authority figure? Vince McMahon
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Old 05-22-2005, 01:58 PM   #7
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The Franchise? Hogan (he is the name most would mention first, obv including non-watchers)

The most successful? Hogan

Best face? Austin

Best Heel? Kurt Angle

The most over? Austin (at his peak)

The most recognised? Hogan

The best pure athelete? Altough its early, Benjamin or Micheals

Best on the stick...Period? JBL (in terms of being a character and selling a match)

Best non-wrestling talent? Heenan

Your favorite? Bret Hart of all time, at the minute I struggle with one, but the old school in me says Micheals, with Christian a close second

Best onscreen authority figure? McMahon
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Old 05-22-2005, 03:15 PM   #8
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The Franchise? Hulk Hogan

The most successful? Triple H/Ric Flair

Best face? Best Heel? Face: Austin. Heel: Triple H

The most over? Stone Cold

The most recognised? The Rock

The best pure athelete? Shawn Michaels

Best on the stick...Period? JBL

Best non-wrestling talent? Vince McMahon

Your favorite? John Cena

Best onscreen authority figure? Vince McMahon
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Old 05-22-2005, 03:39 PM   #9
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The Franchise? Hulk Hogan

The most successful? The Rock

Best face? Stone Cold Steve Austin

Best Heel? The Rock

The most over? Stone Cold Steve Austin

The most recognised? The Rock

The best pure athelete? Kurt Angle

Best on the stick...Period? The Rock

Best non-wrestling talent? Bobby Heenan

Your favorite? The Rock

Best onscreen authority figure? Vince McMahon
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Old 05-22-2005, 04:07 PM   #10
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The Franchise? Hulk Hogan

The most successful? Hulk Hogan

The most recognised? Hulk Hogan

The best pure athelete? Modernly, Bret Hart

Best non-wrestling talent? Freddie Blassie or Lou Albano, though I am sure I could up with a few other names if I thought about this more.

Best onscreen authority figure? Vince Russo
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Old 05-22-2005, 04:22 PM   #11
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The Franchise? Hulk Hogan

The most successful? Hulk Hogan

Best face? Stone Cold

Best Heel? The Rock

The most over? Stone Cold

The most recognised? Hulk Hogan

The best pure athelete? Kurt Angle

Best on the stick...Period? The Rock

Best non-wrestling talent? Bobby Heenan

Your favorite? Tie Right now between...Triple H and Edge

Best onscreen authority figure? Vince McMahon
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Old 05-22-2005, 04:26 PM   #12
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Who is:

The Franchise? Hogan

The most successful? Flair

Best face? Steamboat
Best Heel? Flair

The most over? Austin

The most recognised? Hogan

The best pure athelete? Bret Hart

Best on the stick...Period? Flair or Rocky (tie)

Best non-wrestling talent? Heenan

Your favorite? All time: Bret/Flair (tie) Current: Eddie/Capt. Charisma

Best onscreen authority figure? Vince...I guess.
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Old 05-22-2005, 04:32 PM   #13
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The Franchise? Hulk Hogan

The most successful? Hulk Hogan

Best face? Bret Hart

Best Heel? Ric Flair

The most over? Hulk Hogan

The most recognised? Hulk Hogan

The best pure athelete? Eddie Guerrero

Best on the stick...Period? Ric Flair (Rock has never been able to cut a serious promo without some comic relief.)

Best non-wrestling talent? Paul Heyman

Your favorite? Chris Jericho

Best onscreen authority figure? Vince McMahon

That's coming from a guy who loathes Hogan.
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Old 05-22-2005, 04:38 PM   #14
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The Franchise? Hogan

The most successful? Stone Cold Steve Austin

Best face? Stone Cold Steve Austin
Best Heel? Flair

The most over? Stone Cold Steve Austin

The most recognised? The Rock

The best pure athelete? Kurt Angle

Best on the stick...Period? The Rock

Best non-wrestling talent? Tazz

Your favorite? Kurt Angle / Triple H (tie)

Best onscreen authority figure? Vince I guess?
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Old 05-22-2005, 05:21 PM   #15
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The Franchise: Hollywood Hulk Hogan

The most successful? The Rock

Best face: Stone Cold Steve Austin

Best Heel: Ric Flair

The most over: Hollywood Hulk Hogan

The most recognised: Hollywood Hulk Hogan (isn't this kind of the same as Franchise?)

The best pure athelete: Kurt Angle

Best on the stick...Period: The Rock

Best non-wrestling talent: Paul Heyman

Your favorite: Billy Gunn

Best onscreen authority figure: Mr. McMahon
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Old 05-22-2005, 05:23 PM   #16
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The Franchise? Hulk Hogan

The most successful? Steve Austin

Best face? Steve Austin

Best Heel? Ric Flair

The most over? Steve Austin

The most recognised? Hulk Hogan

The best pure athelete? Kurt Angle

Best on the stick...Period? Mick Foley

Best non-wrestling talent? Bobby Heenan

Your favorite? Chris Jericho

Best onscreen authority figure? Vince McMahon
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Old 05-22-2005, 06:42 PM   #17
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The Franchise? Hulk Hogan

The most successful? Andre the Giant

Best face? Ricky Steamboat

Best Heel? Ric Flair

The most over? Ric Flair

The most recognised? The Rock

The best pure athelete? AJ Styles

Best on the stick...Period? Roddy Piper

Best non-wrestling talent? Bobby Heenan

Your favorite? Bret Hart(All-time), Christopher Daniels(current)

Best onscreen authority figure? Eric Bischoff
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Old 05-22-2005, 06:51 PM   #18
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Who is...

The Franchise: Hulk Hogan

The most successful: Between Hulk Hogan and Stone Cold.

Best face: Hulk Hogan

Best Heel: Vince McMahon

The most over: Hulk Hogan and Austin

The most recognised: Hulk Hogan

The best pure athelete: Kurt Angle

Best on the stick...Period: Kurt Angle and Mick Foley

Best non-wrestling talent: Vince McMahon

Your favorite: Eddie Guerrero and Kurt Angle

Best onscreen authority figure: Vince McMahon
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Old 05-22-2005, 07:50 PM   #19
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The Franchise: HHH (Only because we can't get away from him)

The most successful: The Rock

Best face: Steve Austin (Foley close second)

Best Heel: HHH (Rock close second)

The most over: Foley (Everyone loves Foley)

The most recognised :Hogan

The best pure athelete: Kurt Angle

Best on the stick: The Rock

Best non-wrestling talent Paul Heyman

Your favorite: The Rock and Eddie

Best onscreen authority figure: Vince
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Old 05-22-2005, 09:25 PM   #20
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The Franchise? Hulk Hogan

The most successful? Steve Austin

Best face? Steve Austin

Best Heel? HHH

The most over? Steve Austin

The most recognised? Hulk Hogan

The best pure athelete? Kurt Angle

Best on the stick...Period? Mick Foley

Best non-wrestling talent? Paul Hayman

Your favorite? Steve Austin

Best onscreen authority figure? Vince McMahon
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Old 05-22-2005, 09:31 PM   #21
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The Franchise? Hulk Hogan

The most successful? Steve Austin

Best face? Steve Austin

Best Heel? HHH

The most over? Steve Austin

The most recognised? Hulk Hogan

The best pure athelete? Kurt Angle

Best on the stick...Period? Mick Foley

Best non-wrestling talent? Paul Hayman

Your favorite? Steve Austin

Best onscreen authority figure? Vince McMahon


Not bad at least we agree on some things

No Rock though
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Old 05-22-2005, 09:39 PM   #22
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You didn't honestly think i would include rock in there did you? you know i aint his biggest fan
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Old 05-22-2005, 09:45 PM   #23
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The Franchise: Flair

The most successful: The Rock

Best face: Steve Austin

Best Heel: Rhino

The most over: At the current moment, Batista

The most recognized :Hogan

The best pure athelete: Paul London

Best on the stick: Raven

Best non-wrestling talent: Paul Heyman

Your favorite: Aj styles & Christopher Daniels

Best onscreen authority figure: Foley
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Old 05-22-2005, 09:46 PM   #24
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You didn't honestly think i would include rock in there did you? you know i aint his biggest fan

No but i hate Hogan and i was objective enough to put him in there.
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Old 05-22-2005, 09:51 PM   #25
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No but i hate Hogan and i was objective enough to put him in there.

My reason for not putting rock in there is not because of a dislike but because i genuinley believe that he does not apply to any of those fields.
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Old 05-22-2005, 09:58 PM   #26
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What fields would you put him in just out of interest?
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Old 05-22-2005, 10:13 PM   #27
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Best comedy promo perhaps? other than that i cant think of any
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Old 05-22-2005, 10:35 PM   #28
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The Franchise? the original franchise sting

The most successful? ric flair

Best face? sting

Best Heel?triple h

The most over? austin

The most recognised? hogan

The best pure athelete? angle hands down

Best on the stick...Period? flair

Best non-wrestling talent? eric bischoff

Your favorite?all time:sting/dusty rhodes current:john cena

Best onscreen authority figure?vince mcmahon
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Old 05-22-2005, 11:10 PM   #29
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Excuse me, Mr. BatistaBomb, but I was curious as to what makes you think Sting is the original franchise of anything ever?
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Old 05-22-2005, 11:29 PM   #30
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Who is:

The Franchise? Hulk Hogan

The most successful? The Rock considering wrestling turned him into an near A list movie star.

Best face? Hulk Hogan Best Heel? HHH

The most over? Hulk Hogan. Austin was never as over as a heel as Hogan was in the NWO.

The most recognised? Hulk Hogan

The best pure athelete? RVD

Best on the stick...Period? The Rock

Best non-wrestling talent? Bobby Hennan

Your favorite? Hulk Hogan

Best onscreen authority figure? Vince McMachon
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Old 05-22-2005, 11:35 PM   #31
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Excuse me, Mr. BatistaBomb, but I was curious as to what makes you think Sting is the original franchise of anything ever?
Sting is the original franchise of adult contemporary music

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Old 05-22-2005, 11:43 PM   #32
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The Franchise? Hogan

The most successful? The Rock

Best face? Austin at his peak

Best Heel? This is a tough one. The Rock and Angle jump to mind first. But I have to give a respectful nod to Shane Douglas and the Dudley's during the height of ECW.

The most over? Austin

The most recognised? Hogan or The Rock

The best pure athelete? Jericho or RVD

Best on the stick...Period? ECW Dudley's

Best non-wrestling talent? Heyman, Heenan a close second

Your favorite? Of all time? Dunno. Currently? Christian

Best onscreen authority figure? Vinnie Mac
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Old 05-22-2005, 11:45 PM   #33
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Old 05-23-2005, 01:29 AM   #34
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The Franchise? The Rock

The most successful? Hulk Hogan

Best face? Hulk Hogan

Best Heel? Ric Flair

The most over? Hulk Hogan

The most recognised? The Rock

The best pure athelete? Tie Lance Storm, Ricky Steamboat

Best on the stick...Period? Ric Flair

Best non-wrestling talent? Sunny (pre Coke)

Your favorite? Ricky Steamboat, Chris Benoit

Best onscreen authority figure? Vince
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Old 05-23-2005, 04:12 AM   #35
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The Franchise? Austin

The most successful? The Rock

Best face? Hogan

Best Heel? Flair

The most over? Hogan

The most recognised? Hogan, Austin, or Rock

The best pure athelete? Kurt Angle ofcourse.

Best on the stick? JBL .(period)

Best non-wrestling talent? Rock .

Your favorite? JBL

Best onscreen authority figure? I really like Steph.
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Old 05-23-2005, 05:23 AM   #36
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The Franchise? In Recent times, Austin

The most successful? The Rock

Best face? Stone Cold

Best Heel? Ric Flair

The most over? Stone Cold

The most recognised? Hulk Hogan

The best pure athelete? Billy Gunn Kurt Angle

Best on the stick...Period? The Rock

Best non-wrestling talent? Bobby Heenan

Your favorite? Mick Foley

Best onscreen authority figure? Chuck Norris Vince McMahon
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:30 AM   #37
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The Franchise? Triple H

The most successful? Stone Cold Steve Austin

Best face? Stone Cold Steve Austin

Best Heel? Triple H

The most over? Stone Cold Steve Austin

The most recognised? Hulk Hogan

The best pure athelete? Shelton Benjamin

Best on the stick...Period? Either Christian or Chris Jericho

Best non-wrestling talent? Paul Heyman when he was RAW Commentator

Your favorite? Ever = Stone Cold Steve Austin. Current = Edge or Christian

Best onscreen authority figure? Co-GM Austin or current Eric Bischoff

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