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Old 07-04-2005, 07:07 PM   #1
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Now that the draft is over...
How much do you give a fuck about each show? Like, on a scale of 1-10?

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Old 07-04-2005, 07:11 PM   #2
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Raw: I'd say 9 because I've heard ramblings about the possible Summerslam card and it looks like a little bit of a changeup from what we've been seeing. Especially for the Main Event

Smackdown: Gets more points for Hassan, Orton and Xtian. So 8
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Old 07-04-2005, 07:13 PM   #3
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raw 10

SD 8 this will go up when Orton returns to action full time.
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Old 07-04-2005, 07:15 PM   #4
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RAW: 4 (might go up when RVD comes back)

SmackDown!: 5 (Guerrero/Mysterio & Christian is saving that burning ship)
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Old 07-04-2005, 07:21 PM   #5
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Raw: 10 - Same as before the draft.

Smackdown: 9 - I'm actually gonna start watching it again, mostly for Batista and Christian.
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Old 07-04-2005, 07:22 PM   #6
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Oh yea, forgot about Batista

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Old 07-04-2005, 07:40 PM   #7
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They are both good. Raw keeps up it's usual interest for me, although now that I get raw tickets to see Christian he is gone.

Smackdown elevated itself a bit as well. I'll actually take the time to watch or at least tape the shows, to see what is happening there.
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Old 07-04-2005, 07:44 PM   #8
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RAW:4 (It use to be 9) Mainly because RAW has Carlito now, before RAW only had one crappy wrestler (Chris Masters) but now RAW has two.

SmackDown!:10 (It use to be 5) Mainly because SmackDown! has Batista,Christian,Daivari,Hassan,Simon Dean,Steven Richards,Sylvain Grenier ,William Regal and the World Heavyweight Title.
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Old 07-04-2005, 07:38 PM   #9
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Raw - 9.9

SD! - I wish I could see it but if I could then a 9
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Old 07-04-2005, 07:46 PM   #10
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RAW gets a 9 with the addition of the God of sports-entertainment, Kurt Angle

Smackdown gets an 8, Christian and Dancin Dave will boost the show
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Old 07-04-2005, 07:49 PM   #11
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I didn't know Tomko, Viscera, Snitsky, Christy, Jindrack, Maven weren't crappy wrestlers.
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Old 07-04-2005, 09:02 PM   #12
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I didn't know Tomko, Viscera, Snitsky, Christy, Jindrack, Maven weren't crappy wrestlers.

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Old 07-05-2005, 08:15 PM   #13
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Old 07-05-2005, 08:18 PM   #14
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Raw - 8
SM - 8

I enjoyed Smackdown before the draft and I never really knew what was wrong with it except that they are holding back alot of unused talent. I see potential for it to be a great show now.
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Old 07-04-2005, 09:30 PM   #15
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Old 07-05-2005, 09:03 PM   #16
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I didn't know Tomko, Viscera, Snitsky, Christy, Jindrack, Maven weren't crappy wrestlers.
Jindrak isn't.

RAW - 6 It'll go up to the mid 8.somethings when the Diva Search is over and they're done with whatever the hell they're doing with Hogan. I was watching my tape of last night's RAW this afternoon, and I fast-forwarded through probably a half hour of it. I fast-forwarded through the Diva segment and I fast forwarded through the finish of the main event as soon as Hogan tagged in, as I knew exactly what was going to happen. Of course, I had to rewind it back when I saw how the show ended, but...

SmackDown - 9 I've preferred SmackDown since the brands were split, and I'm even more excited about it now after the draft. The Cruiserweight division looks really strong (despite the idiotic firings of Shannon Moore, Akio, and Billy Kidman and sending Ch--Kerwin to RAW). The main event is really interesting now with the injection of Batista and Christian (not to mention Muhammad Hassan and Chris Benoit). The Eddie/Rey feud is absolutely phenomenal.
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Old 07-05-2005, 09:52 PM   #17
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7's across the board right now, but there are some storylines brewing that might make both shows better.
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Old 07-05-2005, 10:04 PM   #18
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7's across the board right now, but there are some storylines brewing that might make both shows better.
I agree that the numbers will probably change over time.

Right now, though, the roster shift increased my interest in Raw to an 8 or 9, and decreased my interest in Smackdown down to like 4 or 5. However, Mexicools look like they're gonna help out, which at least makes my interest a solid 6 right now. It's like, okay, you've sucked all the talent form a show that sorely needs it, and Thrown them a couple bones in return. I mean I like Batista, Hassan, Benoit and Orton, but they don't tip the scales compared to Cena, Carlito, Angle and RVD. Actually, they don't even tip compared to the first three I mentioned.
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Old 07-04-2005, 08:46 PM   #19
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Smackdown: 0 Its on at an odd time were I live, and i'm too lazy to download it.
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Old 07-04-2005, 08:50 PM   #20
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They both got better, RAW improved its star power, but might be short on talent in the future.

SD got a lot of depth, and if the rosters were to stay the same, they would have a great line up for the near future.

The best move was changing the champs. It was the easiest way to create fresh matches at the top of the card, which is what they needed.
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Old 07-04-2005, 09:05 PM   #21
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Raw: 6, I love Kurt Angle, but nothing else jumps out at me. Carlito is ok, but for the main event, John Cena vs Edge or HHH? Better than JBL and Batista though.
Smackdown: 4, I am not intrested in the JBL and Batista fued coming, but I love the Mexicons (sp?).
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Old 07-04-2005, 10:42 PM   #22
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Old 07-04-2005, 11:48 PM   #23
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Raw - 8/10: Kurt Angle, and to a lesser extent Chris Jericho, Carlito and Shawn Michaels are keeping my interest in Raw.

Smackdown - 6/10: Eddie Guerrero, and to a lesser extent JBL, Rey Mysterio, Christian and Chris Benoit keep me tuning in.
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Old 07-04-2005, 11:52 PM   #24
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Raw: 7/10 - would go up to 9 without the knowledge that the cloud known as HHH hovers over the show. Angle being on this show rules, as does Cena, who can get back to his 2003 self a little more on the mic.

SmackDown: 7.5/10 - Orton, Hassan, Christian, JUVENTUD, Eddie...the loss of Angle and Carlito hurt this show though. Batista being away from HHH sounds very promising, now that he has JBL to face.
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Old 07-05-2005, 01:47 AM   #25
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Raw 8.5
SmackDown!: ???- Haven't watched in like 3 months (God Damn Work!)

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Old 07-05-2005, 08:23 PM   #28
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Raw - 9 (was 10 but then they lost Captain Charisma)
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Old 07-05-2005, 09:51 PM   #29
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Jindrak wasn't crappy. He was simply bland. But seeing as how people with less ability have gotten pushes, they COULD have made him interesting.
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Old 07-05-2005, 09:58 PM   #30
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Old 07-05-2005, 10:55 PM   #31
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That superkick bumped RAW up to a 10
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Old 07-07-2005, 12:22 PM   #32
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Old 07-08-2005, 12:19 AM   #33
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Raw: 8 for the HHH and Hogan crapfest.
SD!: 9.5 for Guerrero, Christian, and the Mexicools.
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Old 07-08-2005, 11:19 AM   #34
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Raw:7. I'm getting tired of hbk/hogan main eventing and posing all the fucking time, though the superkick from hbk saved that last bit this week, it should increase though as there could be some interesting feuds going on.I also like carlito at the moment, haven't seen him wrestle much but he's funny, really reminds me of the rock, to be honest.

Also Jericho challenging for the wwe title will keep me interested, however i have a feeling triple h will interfere in the match by pedigreeing Y2J and then challenge Cena for the title.And that will be the end of Jericho, and he will become another released superstar.(ok maybe it wont go that far, but it will be the end for him if he loses thanks to HHH)I am also liking Kurt Angle, and look forward to an Angle/HHH feud.

SD: 7. Thanks to the draft and obviously eddie/rey, the show may well get the boost it needs, I hope they make Hassan US champ, just because it would be ironic considering his gimmick.Also I'm hoping Christian will become wwe champ in the future, but he has to be booked right.
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