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Old 07-12-2005, 09:11 PM   #1
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Are we Entering a New Era?

Well the last month or so in the WWE has been very cool and exciting to say the least. Lots of stuff happening, which a year ago, I would of never thought happening. It seems like the WWE is starting to realize how to make good TV again. They've created new stars the past year or two, which they failed to do between 2001-2003, and it hurt them. And now we're starting to see the effort of creating stars with how over Batista and especially Cena are. Of course, Orton, Hassan, Shelton, Carlito and a few more are there.

But what I really wanted to talk about was what seemed to be started by the ECW PPV. This new "shoot" style TV/Internet WWE we are seeing lately. From the shoot promos at the ECW PPV, to the BWO appearing on Smackdown (Meanie vs JBL), to the Lesnar stuff, to all these releases, which were presented like they were some kind of event on WWE.com. To the little things like that of Richards attacking Masters on Raw after few knew Richards was even injured by him. And of course, the biggest thing, Matt Hardy/Edge/Lita.

This past couple of months has just felt a lot different. A definate change for the better IMO. As I said before, last night with Matt was just so surreal. Something that you don't really see anymore these days in the WWE. Real Crowd emotion and just hearing however many people chant "Hardy" as loud as they could brought me back to 98 with Austin. It really felt like that last night.

I just hope they continue this "New WWE" so to speak. Keep running this "reality" kind of thing they are doing right now. It's something new and it's something fun.
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:14 PM   #2
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I agree. Hopefully they can build even bigger stars. I'm always looking forward to the next Rock or Stone Cold.
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:15 PM   #3
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:16 PM   #4
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:16 PM   #5
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I love the fact wwe is controlling the internet now. that kicks serious ass. I've always said "the fans know too much". The wwe used the internet aginst us! YEEESSS!
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:19 PM   #6
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I think its been awesome.. I seriously cannot wait to see what happens next.
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:19 PM   #7
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just to make things clear, when I say "shoot," I'm talking about shoot in terms of WWE style. Basically it comes off real to the casual fans and to the smarks, but everything was probably fed to Vince beforehand and he gave the final approval. So with Heyman and RVD, yea they were "shoots" so to speak, but not true "shoots" like those interviews you see out there on RF Video or something.
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:34 PM   #8
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just to make things clear, when I say "shoot," I'm talking about shoot in terms of WWE style. Basically it comes off real to the casual fans and to the smarks, but everything was probably fed to Vince beforehand and he gave the final approval. So with Heyman and RVD, yea they were "shoots" so to speak, but not true "shoots" like those interviews you see out there on RF Video or something.
heyman is the workshoot MASTER. nobody comes close to his realness. "You stole my life" was one of the best workshoots ever.
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:35 PM   #9
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I have to agree.

I'm loving how they're actually using the internet to benefit some storylines and interest more people. It makes complete sense to start using something that is pretty much the epicenter of communication and media.
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:39 PM   #10
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I hope not...I do like the way they made the One night Stand PPV that's the only good thing they did. They made Batista Champ and they kind of took away Evolution which is good because they were getting boreing. Alot of stuff they did the past year pissed me off, the idea of killing off Percy(paul barrer) that sucked. And then after that he left and then I read a month or so ago he sighned a new deal with WWE so that's cool, getting rid of Matt Hardy could have been their best move if I do say so my self. I hated Matt anyway Getting rid of Jeff though was one of their bigger mistakes. Because he's doing great over at TNA evan though I heard he was suspended a couple of months ago. Cena is the biggest joke and biggest fucking retard I've seen and the worse gimmick I've seen, a wannabe Black wrestler...That's when I knew Vince forgot who he was it pissed me off. One of the big reasons I hate WWE today I mean I'm a huge wrestling fan and all but a wrestler like that should'nt evan exsist. I can go on and on about how bad wrestling has got over the past year in WWE but I really don't need to because alot of you wont agree with me anyway. so why evan try?...Well that's all I need to say for now.
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Old 07-12-2005, 10:04 PM   #11
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I hope not...I do like the way they made the One night Stand PPV that's the only good thing they did. They made Batista Champ and they kind of took away Evolution which is good because they were getting boreing. Alot of stuff they did the past year pissed me off, the idea of killing off Percy(paul barrer) that sucked. And then after that he left and then I read a month or so ago he sighned a new deal with WWE so that's cool, getting rid of Matt Hardy could have been their best move if I do say so my self. I hated Matt anyway Getting rid of Jeff though was one of their bigger mistakes. Because he's doing great over at TNA evan though I heard he was suspended a couple of months ago. Cena is the biggest joke and biggest fucking retard I've seen and the worse gimmick I've seen, a wannabe Black wrestler...That's when I knew Vince forgot who he was it pissed me off. One of the big reasons I hate WWE today I mean I'm a huge wrestling fan and all but a wrestler like that should'nt evan exsist. I can go on and on about how bad wrestling has got over the past year in WWE but I really don't need to because alot of you wont agree with me anyway. so why evan try?...Well that's all I need to say for now.
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Old 07-12-2005, 10:11 PM   #12
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Old 07-12-2005, 10:33 PM   #13
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:14 AM   #14
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I hope not...I do like the way they made the One night Stand PPV that's the only good thing they did. They made Batista Champ and they kind of took away Evolution which is good because they were getting boreing. Alot of stuff they did the past year pissed me off, the idea of killing off Percy(paul barrer) that sucked. And then after that he left and then I read a month or so ago he sighned a new deal with WWE so that's cool, getting rid of Matt Hardy could have been their best move if I do say so my self. I hated Matt anyway Getting rid of Jeff though was one of their bigger mistakes. Because he's doing great over at TNA evan though I heard he was suspended a couple of months ago. Cena is the biggest joke and biggest fucking retard I've seen and the worse gimmick I've seen, a wannabe Black wrestler...That's when I knew Vince forgot who he was it pissed me off. One of the big reasons I hate WWE today I mean I'm a huge wrestling fan and all but a wrestler like that should'nt evan exsist. I can go on and on about how bad wrestling has got over the past year in WWE but I really don't need to because alot of you wont agree with me anyway. so why evan try?...Well that's all I need to say for now.
Riiiiiight. Dude who do u like, and just for some fun where would you like to see the WWE go direction wise.


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Old 07-13-2005, 02:23 AM   #15
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I hope not...I do like the way they made the One night Stand PPV that's the only good thing they did. They made Batista Champ and they kind of took away Evolution which is good because they were getting boreing. Alot of stuff they did the past year pissed me off, the idea of killing off Percy(paul barrer) that sucked. And then after that he left and then I read a month or so ago he sighned a new deal with WWE so that's cool, getting rid of Matt Hardy could have been their best move if I do say so my self. I hated Matt anyway Getting rid of Jeff though was one of their bigger mistakes. Because he's doing great over at TNA evan though I heard he was suspended a couple of months ago. Cena is the biggest joke and biggest fucking retard I've seen and the worse gimmick I've seen, a wannabe Black wrestler...That's when I knew Vince forgot who he was it pissed me off. One of the big reasons I hate WWE today I mean I'm a huge wrestling fan and all but a wrestler like that should'nt evan exsist. I can go on and on about how bad wrestling has got over the past year in WWE but I really don't need to because alot of you wont agree with me anyway. so why evan try?...Well that's all I need to say for now.
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:33 AM   #16
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I hope not...I do like the way they made the One night Stand PPV that's the only good thing they did. They made Batista Champ and they kind of took away Evolution which is good because they were getting boreing. Alot of stuff they did the past year pissed me off, the idea of killing off Percy(paul barrer) that sucked. And then after that he left and then I read a month or so ago he sighned a new deal with WWE so that's cool, getting rid of Matt Hardy could have been their best move if I do say so my self. I hated Matt anyway Getting rid of Jeff though was one of their bigger mistakes. Because he's doing great over at TNA evan though I heard he was suspended a couple of months ago. Cena is the biggest joke and biggest fucking retard I've seen and the worse gimmick I've seen, a wannabe Black wrestler...That's when I knew Vince forgot who he was it pissed me off. One of the big reasons I hate WWE today I mean I'm a huge wrestling fan and all but a wrestler like that should'nt evan exsist. I can go on and on about how bad wrestling has got over the past year in WWE but I really don't need to because alot of you wont agree with me anyway. so why evan try?...Well that's all I need to say for now.

See..this is why I called you a fucking retard.

I'm tired, but eventually I will take the time to cut this post to shreds. I'll probably insult Jeff hardy, so Shadow, avert your eyes.

Also, this is more proof that my "Even the Reatards Have Computers" thread was right on the money. I may turn that entire theory into a reality series.

Also, to those who have insulted the newbie, watch out, he may use some sort of racial epitaph that he may or may not understand quite what it means.

That is all.
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:34 AM   #17
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I hope not...I do like the way they made the One night Stand PPV that's the only good thing they did. They made Batista Champ and they kind of took away Evolution which is good because they were getting boreing. Alot of stuff they did the past year pissed me off, the idea of killing off Percy(paul barrer) that sucked. And then after that he left and then I read a month or so ago he sighned a new deal with WWE so that's cool, getting rid of Matt Hardy could have been their best move if I do say so my self. I hated Matt anyway Getting rid of Jeff though was one of their bigger mistakes. Because he's doing great over at TNA evan though I heard he was suspended a couple of months ago. Cena is the biggest joke and biggest fucking retard I've seen and the worse gimmick I've seen, a wannabe Black wrestler...That's when I knew Vince forgot who he was it pissed me off. One of the big reasons I hate WWE today I mean I'm a huge wrestling fan and all but a wrestler like that should'nt evan exsist. I can go on and on about how bad wrestling has got over the past year in WWE but I really don't need to because alot of you wont agree with me anyway. so why evan try?...Well that's all I need to say for now.
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:35 AM   #18
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See..this is why I called you a fucking retard.

I'm tired, but eventually I will take the time to cut this post to shreds. I'll probably insult Jeff hardy, so Shadow, avert your eyes.

Also, this is more proof that my "Even the Reatards Have Computers" thread was right on the money. I may turn that entire theory into a reality series.

Also, to those who have insulted the newbie, watch out, he may use some sort of racial epitaph that he may or may not understand quite what it means.

That is all.
You fucking Hebe.
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:35 AM   #19
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As to the topic: yep, it looks like the WWE has decided that instead of trying to fight the Net, they are going to bend it to their will. If they control the information, then they control the minds of the wrestling fans.

Genius.

It was probably Pul E's idea and Trips is taking credit for it.
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:41 AM   #20
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As to the topic: yep, it looks like the WWE has decided that instead of trying to fight the Net, they are going to bend it to their will. If they control the information, then they control the minds of the wrestling fans.

Genius.

It was probably Pul E's idea and Trips is taking credit for it.
To be fair, it was Rupert Murdoch's idea.
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Old 07-13-2005, 03:20 AM   #21
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I'm loving this new era. Indeed, wrestling has become so interesting as of late. It seems like wrestlings boom era have always come from capitalizing on its problems. Case: back then SCSA was getting cheered when he was a heel...WWE said fuck it, run with it. The Rock was booed as a face, so they said..let him run with being this asshole. Now, the WWE has been complaining about the net ruining the business...but as of late, they're running with it.

If only there was another wrestling promotion on Monday Nights as well....it would be even crazier.
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Old 07-13-2005, 04:32 AM   #22
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WWE has been awesome since Triple H is on vacation.

There, I said it.
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Old 07-13-2005, 07:06 AM   #23
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Worse than a guy pretending to be mentally handicapped?

Worse than a baby killer/foot fetishist?

Worse than a fitness instructor?

Worse than a "Zombie"?

You haven't seen a lot of gimmicks have you?
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Old 07-13-2005, 07:08 AM   #24
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WWE has been awesome since Triple H is on vacation.

There, I said it.
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Old 07-13-2005, 07:20 AM   #25
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Yeah this past month or so I've been eagerly awaiting RAW and SmackDown! which hasn't really happened since about the year 2000 or 2001. We have new stars being built, as well as old ones still being in the world title picture, we have heaps of young talent coming through and WWE has become unpredictable again (to an extent).

I see us in about 1996, where wrestling is entertaining and crazy, but this is the period when they're preparing their stars. Now we have Orton, Cena, Shelton, Carlito, Christian, Lesnar?, Maybe even Dupree who we could see main-eventing in 2 years or so. In 1996 you had HHH, Rock, Mankind and Austin all being built-up, and they were the guys (as well as Kane and 'Taker) who headlined the first few years of the Attitude era, which was a mega boom-period.

If all goes well, in 2 years there could be another boom-period, with the guys I mentioned (as well as other people) main-eventing.

As for the internet usage, I think that's a great idea. For as PH says: Even retards have computers, this is backed-up by Cactus Jack. And us smarks who have been coming on the internet to check-out rumors and news for years, know that these rumors/news are genuine, and know we can't be sure if what we're reading is true. Or just an invention from the WWE, this wil benefit us smarks, for we all love when something happens in WWE that we didn't predict, which these days is rare. So now we could be seeing more of the surprise factor, which is great . Also to the marks, even in 2 years time when we've fully figured out how the WWE uses the internet to get false stories out, the marks will still be believing that 'If it's written on WWE.com it has to be true'.

Anyway, yeah I'm enjoying WWE again and I really hope they keep performing .

Great post Loose Cannon.
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Old 07-13-2005, 08:28 AM   #26
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I don't need to comment on the fact that It doesn't matter if you're Black or White these days, but I will because I'm bored.

There are black golfers, there are white Rappers, there are Black... hmm that seems to be it... have a nice day!
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Old 07-13-2005, 09:19 AM   #27
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:00 AM   #28
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http://tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=32160

I had it covered a couple weeks ago.
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:07 AM   #29
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Like we are ment to take a thread which got hijacked by "Shut up your ignorant ass" posts? I'll much rather have this as the official thread of the new era discussion, it has a better thread title, anyway.
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Old 07-13-2005, 11:21 AM   #30
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That's fine, I just wanted to point out that, when I suggested that the WWE could have been using the internet to set up a storyline, and thus set up some intelligent conversation, I was told it was a bad idea. And that it couldn't POSSIBLY be a work.

Anyway, a few weeks go by, some spit, polish, and a better title, and it's suddenly a good idea. Like I said, it's a great idea, glad Vince McMahon thought of it . Not being bitter, I just feel I was a bit quicker in seeing the direction of WWE. Then again, I am operating on 4 hours sleep and a strip club visit.
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Old 07-13-2005, 12:41 PM   #31
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I sure hope we are Entering a new era, because that would be so cool if we were.


Also Cactus Jack, heres a little advice: Go home, get some intelligence, get lost on the way and never be seen again.
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Old 07-13-2005, 01:17 PM   #32
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LC... I completely agree with everything you had to say. Sums up my feelings perfectly, and I hope this trend continues. See what happens when you put egos aside and focus on the common good?

Either that or the cyclical nature of the business is on the upswing again...
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Old 07-13-2005, 01:19 PM   #33
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It certainly seems that we're entering the next era/boom. New stars are coming up and already have world titles, old midcarders are finally being pushed up the card, and new ways of executing angles are coming to fruition.

Now all the WWE has to do is stop being asses and let SmackDown! compete with RAW. It's starting, but slowly.

Unfortunately, though, in this era, not only will the line of shoots and works be blurred, but also the line between smarks and wannabe smarks. Now that, as stated, even retards have the internet, anyone can read a few news sites weekly and sound like smarks.
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Old 07-13-2005, 01:29 PM   #34
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LC... I completely agree with everything you had to say. Sums up my feelings perfectly, and I hope this trend continues. See what happens when you put egos aside and focus on the common good?

Either that or the cyclical nature of the business is on the upswing again...
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I thought the way the draft was done worked really well too. A major improvement on last years. There's a lot of things lately that have come off for them really well and there has been a lot of misdirection thrown at us which is making people interested in the TV shows which generates that all important interest in the PPVs.
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"To the little things like that of Richards attacking Masters on Raw after few knew Richards was even injured by him."

Despite the fact that they mentioned it on Raw every time Masters wrestled.
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Like we are ment to take a thread which got hijacked by "Shut up your ignorant ass" posts? I'll much rather have this as the official thread of the new era discussion, it has a better thread title, anyway.
What's wrong with a thread full of "Shut up you ignorant ass!" posts?

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Old 07-13-2005, 02:25 PM   #38
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I always laugh my ass off whenever I see the "Shut Up You Ignorant Ass" posts.
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"To the little things like that of Richards attacking Masters on Raw after few knew Richards was even injured by him."

Despite the fact that they mentioned it on Raw every time Masters wrestled.
no they didn't. Well I never heard

And why you have to nit pick my comments. Just respond to the question. Not that hard.

Or at least nit-pick and respond at the same time.

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Old 07-13-2005, 09:35 PM   #40
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You're such whiner, Loose Cannon. Also, you forgot to capitalize the first word in the sentence of your post. Oh, and nitpick is one word, not hyphenized. Oh, and you asked a question on line 2 of your post, but put a period instead. And you forgot to punctuate the second sentence in the first line of your post.

All in all, my response? I agree, Loose Cannon, with...whatever it was you said.


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