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Old 07-13-2005, 04:56 AM   #1
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Who do you think will dethrone John Cena on RAW and Batista on Smackdown?

Right now they’re arguably 2 of the most over guys on each brand so it makes sense giving them their brands World Title. Cena I can see dropping it to Triple H when he returns, which will in turn kill some of his heat no doubt. Another Kurt Angle run with the belt would be great if his neck can handle the schedule of being WWE Champion. But other then Triple H & Kurt Angle, I can’t see anyone else on RAW that right now is over enough to carry that belt.

Smackdown is somewhat in a similar situation. They’ve portrayed Batista as an unstoppable force and I can’t see anyone on Smackdown who as of right now is ready to carry that title. JBL could become Smackdown’s champion again, but again it would be like reliving the last year. Orton’s another good pick given past history, but maybe an adequate build would be more beneficial before he gets close to regaining the title. Other then that we’ve got Benoit (who for some reason the company has no faith in as shown by his upcoming United States Championship shot), Booker T (who sadly is over enough anymore to carry it), The Undertaker (doesn’t need the title) and Guerrero & Mysterio (who already are involved with an on-going storyline and I can’t see World Title in their immediate future).

Both brands have excellent up and coming talent (RAW with guys like Benjamin & Carlito. Smackdown with Christian & Hassan) but I can’t see any real long term benefits by placing the title on them this early.
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Old 07-13-2005, 06:51 AM   #2
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Who do you think will dethrone John Cena on RAW and Batista on Smackdown?

Right now they’re arguably 2 of the most over guys on each brand so it makes sense giving them their brands World Title. Cena I can see dropping it to Triple H when he returns, which will in turn kill some of his heat no doubt. Another Kurt Angle run with the belt would be great if his neck can handle the schedule of being WWE Champion. But other then Triple H & Kurt Angle, I can’t see anyone else on RAW that right now is over enough to carry that belt.

Smackdown is somewhat in a similar situation. They’ve portrayed Batista as an unstoppable force and I can’t see anyone on Smackdown who as of right now is ready to carry that title. JBL could become Smackdown’s champion again, but again it would be like reliving the last year. Orton’s another good pick given past history, but maybe an adequate build would be more beneficial before he gets close to regaining the title. Other then that we’ve got Benoit (who for some reason the company has no faith in as shown by his upcoming United States Championship shot), Booker T (who sadly is over enough anymore to carry it), The Undertaker (doesn’t need the title) and Guerrero & Mysterio (who already are involved with an on-going storyline and I can’t see World Title in their immediate future).

Both brands have excellent up and coming talent (RAW with guys like Benjamin & Carlito. Smackdown with Christian & Hassan) but I can’t see any real long term benefits by placing the title on them this early.
World heavyweight championship: Possibly Hassan might get it at Summerslam. Of course he's nowhere near Lesnar in terms of getting it this early, but Summerslam takes place in D.C and with the controversy (Vince loves controversy!),it could happen. However it's just as likely Orton could pick it up after he's healthy and I assume will feud with Taker first.

WWE Championship: Triple H seems likely, but I feel Edge might be the guy. Don't know exactly what the situation is with the MITB contract, but knowing WWE they'll probably use it anyway (despite it not being valid anymore). After all he still carries the briefcase around. But then again it could easily just go to Angle or HHH, seeing as Vince might not want to take the chance with Edge.
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Well right now I could see a HBK title run somewhere along the line after his fued with Hogan has ended, and on Smackdown I really think Xtion will be the one to dethrone Batista, I personally think Other than Taker Xtion is by far the most over or at least on par with Batista.
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Seriously, they've been teasing us with CHristian for a long time now -- at least since Taboo Tuesday. I'm not saying he's going to out power Batista; I doubt anyone could. But he's such a dirty fighter, he'd definitely be the guy to snipe Batista's belt.

As for Cena, I would really hope it's Angle. This Edge/Matt thing is going to explode really soon, and I don't think Edge will be open for a title shot any time soon; in fact, they might just have him use the contract to jump shows, so that Matt and Adam don't have to look at each other, depending on the amount of personal animosity that may still abide between them. Then again, with Kane's movie debut, he may very well hold the title. Seems good for marketing.
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Old 07-13-2005, 09:57 AM   #5
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Seriously, they've been teasing us with CHristian for a long time now -- at least since Taboo Tuesday. I'm not saying he's going to out power Batista; I doubt anyone could. But he's such a dirty fighter, he'd definitely be the guy to snipe Batista's belt.

As for Cena, I would really hope it's Angle. This Edge/Matt thing is going to explode really soon, and I don't think Edge will be open for a title shot any time soon; in fact, they might just have him use the contract to jump shows, so that Matt and Adam don't have to look at each other, depending on the amount of personal animosity that may still abide between them. Then again, with Kane's movie debut, he may very well hold the title. Seems good for marketing.
Christian is a great in ring worker and excellent on the mic, no questioning that. As much as like Christian, he’s being portrayed as a mid-carder in the main event scene. Basically because of the amount of jobbing this guy does. If they gave him the title tomorrow net fans would rejoice as finally one of the guys they’re behind finally got the number one spot. But in terms of being a believable champion, as over as he is right now, he’s not ready. A solid push over the next few months could change that, but as of right now I really don’t see the WWE handing him the World Heavyweight Championship. The last thing I think anyone would want is for Christian’s reign to resemble Chris Jericho’s Undisputed Championship reign.

As for Kane being WWE Champion, if the only reason to give him the title is due to marketing – they’d be better off leaving it on Cena. John Cena’s got that movie coming out, his album and upcoming concerts. And personally, I really don’t think Kane can carry the ball as RAW’s top guy.
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I really hope Triple H retires, I am so sick of him hogging the title picture, it's great that he is out of action right now, however if he does come back and win the title, I will be pissed, he had the main light for HOW many years, 4-5 years? It's time for the new blood to rise up and take charge.

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It doesn't apply to this moment, I do watch Raw for other reasons than Triple H.
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:20 AM   #7
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hmmmm...I see...

Either Triple H or Jericho taking the belt from Cena...either person would make me happy

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JBL taking it from Batista
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:43 PM   #8
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RAW:
- HHH = obvious choice given history and the fact that he's got the credibility of being able to take the belt at any given time
- Angle = another solid main eventer who can outwrestle Cena.

- Jericho = believable, given his recent push. He's never really faced Cena, and maybe he can exploit a weakness. In any case, him beating Cena could be believable.
- HBK = solid main eventer, tho he doesn't need the belt. Same thing with Jericho applies to Michaels.



SmackDOWN:
- JBL has looked very strong lately (they should have done this last year) with good displays and such. He's not afraid of Batista, and he's been a long-reigning champ before, so he could beat Batista believably, especially if he cheats. Actually, he should win dirtily. It can't be clean or Batista's momentum is killed.
- Undertaker: see HHH. But Taker doesn't need it, nor would he be on TV enough to warrant a reign unless Vince lost his mind.
- Benoit: history seems to show that while hosses can overpower cruisers, the technical guys (or the well rounded guys) like Austin, Rock, Angle, and Benoit can beat anyone on any given day. So Benoit could beat Batista. They've battled before, but Chris didn't look horrible. Sure he got beat cleanly when Dave was getting pushed, but that could be dismissed as a fluke.

Booker and Orton could go against Dave, but they'd need serious pushing to make a win over Batista look believable. Same with Christian, unfortunately, because Batista has dominated him recently. Even a dirty win would look odd unless Dave was completely knocked out from like a sledgehammer.



I would say keep the belts on Cena and Batista till Summerslam at least, and possibly through Survivor Series.
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Old 07-13-2005, 03:05 PM   #9
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I know it's wayy far fetched but I'd like to see both guys keep their respective titles until the Royal Rumble. Maybe have one of the 2 lose their belt once and gain it back between now and then. Then at the Rumble they could be the main event in a unification match with the winner becoming THE one and only undisputed World Champion and thus end the damn brand extension. Then the winner of the Royal Rumble match itself would have a HUGE opportunity at Wrestlemania. Hopefully by then TNA will have a TV deal and the brand extension won't be neccessary because then the WWE will have competition.
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Raw: Jericho or Angle is who I'd want to see take it away....but the reality is either HHH or Edge

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Old 07-13-2005, 11:19 PM   #12
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Hey if David Arquette can be a damn World Heavyweight Champion than anybody in da biz can! So yes I can see the Capt. with the WWE title. I mean damn who would ever thought that Mankind or JBL for that matter would've been champ.
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I knew Mankind was gonna win the world title on RAW.
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Old 07-13-2005, 11:38 PM   #14
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corky, Cena's first ppv win was against Jericho
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I would definately put the title on Hassan now.

Actually what I would probably do is play off this whole crap with UPN and everyone getting upset about the angle from last week.

I would even consider doing some type of deal where Hassan never shows up on TV, because of the UPN thing, and he only appears maybe by video or have some people read statements on his behalf. You would only actually see him on TV at PPVs, and of course at live events. Who knows, maybe it would drive people to arenas to see Hassan get his ass kicked.

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Hey if David Arquette can be a damn World Heavyweight Champion than anybody in da biz can! So yes I can see the Capt. with the WWE title. I mean damn who would ever thought that Mankind or JBL for that matter would've been champ.
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:25 PM   #17
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I'd have Cena drop it to Jericho pretty soon. Jericho is STILL mega-over with the fans. Like just last RAW he was getting face-pops and Y2J chants, even though the guy is practically heel now. Jericho is a recognised name and could carry the company as champ, fuck he's been buried all these years it's about time he got another title-run. Also, it's CHRIS FUCKING JERICHO.

As for SmackDown! I'd actually have JBL win at the Great American Bash by cheating, then at SummerSlam Batista and JBL have their rematch with some sort of stipulation, and Batista wins cleanly, Batista then holds the title until WM22 where either Christian, Orton or Lesnar faces him.
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The fact that Jericho has been buried is exactly why he should beat Cena. If they were to take the title off Cena, it should be someone who has been built up poperly.
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I'm kinda hoping what with Jericho saying "I have to beat you etc", just the way he said it. I don't see it happening though.

At least jericho is main eventing Summerslam.
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Yeah but then we'd have HHH vs HBK headlining SS
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I think Hogan/HBK will be after the RAW world title match, but before the SD! World Title match (yes I think SD will be headlining).

As for Jericho being buried, he still is recognised as a worthy contender by most fans, and all it would take is a small-push to elevate Y2J back into the top level. He is deserving of that title as he has been buried all these years, but still somehow has maintained overness with fans and is STILL recognised as a top-name (this also applies with Kane). Judging from that he seems like a guy who wouldn't have too much trouble getting over, and would be an extremely credible World Champion IMO. Also, it's CHRIS FUCKING JERICHO!
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HBK/Hogan should start the show...I mean before the Divas thing.
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BTW I was playing Smackdown: Shut Your Mouth and was almost in tears because Hogan won the Undisputed title... I would cry if Hogan had another World Title run.
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*Hogan wins title* *Morgan shoots the orange guy*
BAHGAWD! THERE'S FACIAL HAIR ALL OVER THE RING! THAT MUSTACHE AIN'T MADE OUT OF SPONGECAKE KING!

*Hogan is on deathbed. Vince by his side*

Hogan: Vince, can I ask a favor?
Vince: Sure, anything for the immortal Hulk Hogan!
Hogan: Could I have one more ma...*Vince unplugs Hogan's life support, and walks away, whistling HHH's theme tune*.
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*Hogan wins title* *Morgan shoots the orange guy*
BAHGAWD! THERE'S FACIAL HAIR ALL OVER THE RING! THAT MUSTACHE AIN'T MADE OUT OF SPONGECAKE KING!

*Hogan is on deathbed. Vince by his side*

Hogan: Vince, can I ask a favor?
Vince: Sure, anything for the immortal Hulk Hogan!
Hogan: Could I have one more ma...*Vince unplugs Hogan's life support, and walks away, whistling HHH's theme tune*.
uum vince is older than hogan.........ass
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Old 07-14-2005, 07:36 PM   #32
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What I want: Chris Jericho deserves the WWE Title. He has never been given the chance to be a credible world champion, and now is the time to do it. Have Jericho take the belt and do a program with Cena leading up until Triple H returns for the inevitable John Cena vs. Triple H title match at WrestleMania.

What will probably happen: Jericho will job in an effort to make Cena look better, and Triple H will then profit from that push and beat John Cena for the 11th WWE World Title victory.

SD!

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What will probably happen: Jericho will job in an effort to make Cena look better, and Triple H will then profit from that push and beat John Cena for the 11th WWE World Title victory.
Hitting the nail on the head.
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