Potentially a huge trade in Baseball involving the Red Sox,D-Rays and Mets

**The Answer** · 07-29-2005, 08:56 PM

Basically this is how it breaks down

Mets get Manny Ramirez

D-Rays get Mike Cameron and two prospects from the Red Sox( one for sure is Hanley Ramirez)

Red Sox get: Danny Baez and Aubrey Huff

That looks about right but im not sure if Cameron goes to the D-Rays

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 07-29-2005, 08:58 PM

Hanley Ramirez getting traded =

**PureHatred** · 07-29-2005, 09:01 PM

Wow would that be stupid.

**The Miz** · 07-29-2005, 09:03 PM

lol not gonna happen

**MoRcHeEbA** · 07-29-2005, 09:09 PM

Nevin got traded to a team he finally can't say no too.

**The Answer** · 07-29-2005, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MoRcHeEbA

Nevin got traded to a team he finally can't say no too.

Nevin went to the Rangers for Chan ho Park....

**MoRcHeEbA** · 07-29-2005, 09:12 PM

also I believe the Rumor is Cameron,Huff,Bayez to the sox, manny to the mets, and the D-rays get prospects.

**Loose Cannon** · 07-29-2005, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Answer

Nevin went to the Rangers for Chan ho Park....

yea, she knows. lol

**The Miz** · 07-29-2005, 09:39 PM

ROFL @ Rangers

**The Miz** · 07-29-2005, 09:42 PM

1. Chris Young
2. Ricardo Rodriguez
3. John Wasdin
4. CJ Wilson
5. Joaquin Benoit

LOL

**The Miz** · 07-29-2005, 09:42 PM

But they sure can hit home runs, they have the best infield in baseball!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**OssMan** · 07-29-2005, 09:44 PM

no

**Nervous Ferret** · 07-29-2005, 09:49 PM

Red Sox are dicking out

**The Miz** · 07-29-2005, 09:52 PM

I'd dick out if I was giving away a great player and a great prospect for 2 ok players

**The Miz** · 07-29-2005, 09:58 PM

Also you fucked up the proposed deal badly

Red Sox get:
OF/3B Aubrey Huff
OF Mike Cameron

Mets get:
OF Manny Ramirez
RHP Danys Baez

Devil Rays get:
C Kelly Shoppach (minors)
RHP Anibel Sanchez (minors)

But at this point the deal is pretty much dead

**The Answer** · 07-29-2005, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

yea, she knows. lol

I figured that I just thought I would let everyone else know...

**The Answer** · 07-29-2005, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Miz

Also you fucked up the proposed deal badly

Red Sox get:
OF/3B Aubrey Huff
OF Mike Cameron

Mets get:
OF Manny Ramirez
RHP Danys Baez

Devil Rays get:
C Kelly Shoppach (minors)
RHP Anibel Sanchez (minors)

But at this point the deal is pretty much dead

I figured Baez would go to the Sox because Schilling wants back in the rotation and Foulke isn't coming back anytime soon...

**The Miz** · 07-29-2005, 10:03 PM

The Red Sox will get a closer. Probably Wagner

**The Miz** · 07-29-2005, 10:08 PM

This trade is done

Orioles get:
OF Eric Byrnes

Rockies get:
OF Larry Bigbie

Former A's playoff chokers reunion

**The Answer** · 07-29-2005, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Miz

This trade is done

Orioles get:
OF Eric Byrnes

Rockies get:
OF Larry Bigbie

Former A's playoff chokers reunion

Hmm the yahoo guys said that this deal was dead... I guess they were wrong.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 07-29-2005, 10:34 PM

Shoppach I can deal with getting traded, theres just no spot for him on the MLB roster.

**MVP** · 07-30-2005, 01:25 AM

Terrible

**Boondock Saint** · 07-30-2005, 04:47 AM

That's a shitty trade.

**Boondock Saint** · 07-30-2005, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Miz

I'd dick out if I was giving away a great player and a great prospect for 2 ok players

Yeah WTF. So angry right now.

**Boondock Saint** · 07-30-2005, 04:50 AM

Ted Nation pretty much hates Manny, FYI.

**VonErich Lives** · 07-30-2005, 08:36 AM

Yeah theres a bunch of rumors right now. Some sound good, some are funny.

There's a couple of Manny/Mets deals, most of them just have the Sox getting Cameron and a prospect or two. Doesn't help the sox this year, but frees up the money to resign Damon.

One I wasn't sure how I felt was.

Manny & Damon for Beltran and Glavine.

Part of what factors in a Manny deal is after this deadline he becomes a 10/5 player, so if the sox did want to trade him next year, Manny would have to approve any deal.

I just don't see a deal happening, the Sox front office and the Mets front office don't get along and the Mets are really the only possible home for Manny (money wise and willing to take him and his "baggage".

**VonErich Lives** · 07-30-2005, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

Also you fucked up the proposed deal badly

Red Sox get:
OF/3B Aubrey Huff
OF Mike Cameron

Mets get:
OF Manny Ramirez
RHP Danys Baez

Devil Rays get:
C Kelly Shoppach (minors)
RHP Anibel Sanchez (minors)

But at this point the deal is pretty much dead

This is the "rumor deal" I just heard on the radio.

Of course the holdup is Manny's contract.

I'm ok with this, assuming they use some of the money they save from Manny to re-sign Damon and then they'll have leftover to either get a decent LF or re-sign Muellar.

**Evil Vito** · 07-30-2005, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

Also you fucked up the proposed deal badly

Red Sox get:
OF/3B Aubrey Huff
OF Mike Cameron

Mets get:
OF Manny Ramirez
RHP Danys Baez

Devil Rays get:
C Kelly Shoppach (minors)
RHP Anibel Sanchez (minors)

But at this point the deal is pretty much dead

I love that trade for the Mets...as long as the D-Rays don't go asking us to give up any of our top prospects again at the last second, if they do they can go fuck themselves and keep Baez (I'm not willing to part with Lastings Milledge or Yusmeiro Petit)

**Evil Vito** · 07-30-2005, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vito 22

I love that trade for the Mets...as long as the D-Rays don't go asking us to give up any of our top prospects again at the last second, if they do they can go fuck themselves and keep Baez (I'm not willing to part with Lastings Milledge or Yusmeiro Petit)

Shit...reportedly the D-Rays ARE asking for Petit/Milledge, in return they'll add Julio Lugo in addition to Baez

Lugo/Baez are NOT worth Petit/Milledge, I hope Omar Minaya realizes that LaMar is trying to rape the farm system again and tells him that they can keep Baez/Lugo......I'd deal Petit/Milledge to the Sox if I had to to get Manny, but not to the D-Rays for a couple of ok players

**RoXer** · 07-30-2005, 01:57 PM

Byrnes

**VonErich Lives** · 07-30-2005, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vito 22

Shit...reportedly the D-Rays ARE asking for Petit/Milledge, in return they'll add Julio Lugo in addition to Baez

Lugo/Baez are NOT worth Petit/Milledge, I hope Omar Minaya realizes that LaMar is trying to rape the farm system again and tells him that they can keep Baez/Lugo......I'd deal Petit/Milledge to the Sox if I had to to get Manny, but not to the D-Rays for a couple of ok players

It's a 3way, the Mets would be getting Manny.

**The Miz** · 07-30-2005, 02:12 PM

I didn't hear about Milledge being involved. If the Sox can nab him for Hanley Ramirez and axe Mannys contract it's worth it. Milledge is Hanley times 10

**VonErich Lives** · 07-30-2005, 02:17 PM

"Rumor is" the mets, sox, rays day is still on and Manny's agent is coming in today (soon) to meet with Manny to go over his contract and possible renegotiate some parts of it to make it easier for the Mets to handle.

**VonErich Lives** · 07-30-2005, 02:23 PM

one thing they brought up, is Huff is a free agent at seasons end, and the sox get two 1st round picks as compensation is he leaves via free agency.

New "rumor" being reported.

Sox get: Cameron, Heilman & Huff
Mets get: Manny, Baez & Lugo
D-rays get 4 prospects.

ESPN's reporting the Mets walked away not over money but because they didn't want to deal Lastings Milledge who the Red Sox wanted, but now the Mets might part with him, but it will require the sox to deal Kelly Shoppach and right-hander Anibal Sanchez .

ESPN is also reporting the Blue Jays called the Sox about Manny.

**Evil Vito** · 07-30-2005, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by VonErich Lives

It's a 3way, the Mets would be getting Manny.

According to ESPN the trade is close to dead because the D-Rays are getting a little greedy.....once the deal officially dies (if it does), I think the Mets should just offer up Cameron/Milledge for Manny (they need offense and they need it now) and leave the D-Rays out of it

Though, if the 3-way goes down, though it would royally suck to lose Milledge and likely Petit as well, I'm loving the thought of this lineup:

SS Reyes
2B Lugo
CF Beltran
LF/RF (dunno who'd play where) Ramirez
LF/RF Floyd
3B Wright
C Piazza
1B Mientkiewicz/Woodward/Cairo/Anderson/Offerman/whoever the fuck else plays there

**The Miz** · 07-30-2005, 06:09 PM

Cameron and Milledge for Manny is an awful trade for the Mets

**MVP** · 07-30-2005, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by VonErich Lives

Manny & Damon for Beltran and Glavine.

Sorry, but the ONLY reason I would justify trading Manny is so the Sox can afford Damon resigning. Otherwise, Carlos "I dropped the ball" Beltran and Glavine aren't worth the deal.

**Evil Vito** · 07-30-2005, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Miz

Cameron and Milledge for Manny is an awful trade for the Mets

Not really...the team is in serious need of a big bat NOW, and Manny is one of the best offensive players in the league...and it would allow them to get rid of Mike "300 strikeouts a game" Cameron

The defense will take a bit of a shot, but Beltran at least has great range, and Floyd hasn't been doing too terribly

As for Milledge.....well, if the Sox wanna dump Manny badly enough/Manny wants out badly enough maybe the Mets could get away with trading a vet like Glavine or Looper or someone, or even a lesser prospect. Milledge is the last prospect I'd wanna trade, but if it's absolutely necessary, then do it and just hope that Milledge doesn't turn out to be as good as everyone thinks he will be.

**The Miz** · 07-30-2005, 06:49 PM

You have know idea how fucked the Mets would be in 2008 if they picked up Manny's contract. There is no reason to trade away your future for a quick-fix. Why do the Mets need to win in 2005?

**OssMan** · 07-30-2005, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Joey RoXer

Byrnes

rbi double

07-29-2005, 08:56 PM	#1
The Answer R.I.P Eddie Guerrero Posts: 3,553	Potentially a huge trade in Baseball involving the Red Sox,D-Rays and Mets Basically this is how it breaks down Mets get Manny Ramirez D-Rays get Mike Cameron and two prospects from the Red Sox( one for sure is Hanley Ramirez) Red Sox get: Danny Baez and Aubrey Huff That looks about right but im not sure if Cameron goes to the D-Rays Destiny!!!!! (Credit:Hired Hitman and Marcyo )

07-29-2005, 08:58 PM	#2
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Hanley Ramirez getting traded =

07-29-2005, 09:01 PM	#3
PureHatred Instant Credibility Posts: 2,979	Wow would that be stupid.

07-29-2005, 09:03 PM	#4
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	lol not gonna happen

07-29-2005, 09:09 PM	#5
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	Nevin got traded to a team he finally can't say no too.

07-29-2005, 09:12 PM	#7
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	also I believe the Rumor is Cameron,Huff,Bayez to the sox, manny to the mets, and the D-rays get prospects.

07-29-2005, 09:39 PM	#9
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	ROFL @ Rangers

07-29-2005, 09:42 PM	#10
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	1. Chris Young 2. Ricardo Rodriguez 3. John Wasdin 4. CJ Wilson 5. Joaquin Benoit LOL

07-29-2005, 09:44 PM	#12
OssMan The Classic Dylan Staples Posts: 51,458	no

07-29-2005, 09:49 PM	#13
Nervous Ferret love yourself Posts: 47,788	Red Sox are dicking out

07-29-2005, 09:52 PM	#14
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	I'd dick out if I was giving away a great player and a great prospect for 2 ok players

07-29-2005, 09:58 PM	#15
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Also you fucked up the proposed deal badly Red Sox get: OF/3B Aubrey Huff OF Mike Cameron Mets get: OF Manny Ramirez RHP Danys Baez Devil Rays get: C Kelly Shoppach (minors) RHP Anibel Sanchez (minors) But at this point the deal is pretty much dead

07-29-2005, 10:03 PM	#18
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	The Red Sox will get a closer. Probably Wagner

07-29-2005, 10:08 PM	#19
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	This trade is done Orioles get: OF Eric Byrnes Rockies get: OF Larry Bigbie Former A's playoff chokers reunion

07-29-2005, 10:34 PM	#21
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Shoppach I can deal with getting traded, theres just no spot for him on the MLB roster.

07-30-2005, 01:25 AM	#22
MVP Mas Vagina Porfavor Posts: 11,343	Terrible

07-30-2005, 04:47 AM	#23
Boondock Saint Posts: 8,795	That's a shitty trade.

07-30-2005, 04:50 AM	#25
Boondock Saint Posts: 8,795	Ted Nation pretty much hates Manny, FYI.

07-30-2005, 08:36 AM	#26
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	Yeah theres a bunch of rumors right now. Some sound good, some are funny. There's a couple of Manny/Mets deals, most of them just have the Sox getting Cameron and a prospect or two. Doesn't help the sox this year, but frees up the money to resign Damon. One I wasn't sure how I felt was. Manny & Damon for Beltran and Glavine. Part of what factors in a Manny deal is after this deadline he becomes a 10/5 player, so if the sox did want to trade him next year, Manny would have to approve any deal. I just don't see a deal happening, the Sox front office and the Mets front office don't get along and the Mets are really the only possible home for Manny (money wise and willing to take him and his "baggage".

07-30-2005, 01:57 PM	#30
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	Byrnes

07-30-2005, 02:12 PM	#32
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	I didn't hear about Milledge being involved. If the Sox can nab him for Hanley Ramirez and axe Mannys contract it's worth it. Milledge is Hanley times 10

07-30-2005, 02:17 PM	#33
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	"Rumor is" the mets, sox, rays day is still on and Manny's agent is coming in today (soon) to meet with Manny to go over his contract and possible renegotiate some parts of it to make it easier for the Mets to handle.

07-30-2005, 02:23 PM	#34
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	one thing they brought up, is Huff is a free agent at seasons end, and the sox get two 1st round picks as compensation is he leaves via free agency. New "rumor" being reported. Sox get: Cameron, Heilman & Huff Mets get: Manny, Baez & Lugo D-rays get 4 prospects. ESPN's reporting the Mets walked away not over money but because they didn't want to deal Lastings Milledge who the Red Sox wanted, but now the Mets might part with him, but it will require the sox to deal Kelly Shoppach and right-hander Anibal Sanchez . ESPN is also reporting the Blue Jays called the Sox about Manny.

07-30-2005, 06:09 PM	#36
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Cameron and Milledge for Manny is an awful trade for the Mets

07-30-2005, 06:49 PM	#39
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	You have know idea how fucked the Mets would be in 2008 if they picked up Manny's contract. There is no reason to trade away your future for a quick-fix. Why do the Mets need to win in 2005?