TPWW Forums  

Go Back   TPWW Forums > w r e s t l i n g > wrestling forum
Reload this Page Hey, remeber when Bubba Rey Dudley was fueding with HHH?
Register Members List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-22-2004, 12:33 PM   #1
BigDaddyCool
Pelvic Sorcerer
 
BigDaddyCool's Avatar
 
Posts: 64,762
BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Hey, remeber when Bubba Rey Dudley was fueding with HHH?
Honestly, what was that about. No one in their right mind thought Bubba could beat HHH, even with HHH backstage clout withstanding.
BigDaddyCool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 01:00 PM   #2
SuperSlim
*Oh Sh*t*
 
SuperSlim's Avatar
 
Posts: 19,302
SuperSlim puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)SuperSlim puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)SuperSlim puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)SuperSlim puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)SuperSlim puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)SuperSlim puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)SuperSlim puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)SuperSlim puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)SuperSlim puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)
That's like watchin Bradshaw teamin up with Austin durin his push. It made no logical sense at all.
SuperSlim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 01:06 PM   #3
loopydate
FIT Challenge Slag People
 
loopydate's Avatar
 
Posts: 13,816
loopydate makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)loopydate makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)loopydate makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)loopydate makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)loopydate makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)loopydate makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)loopydate makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)loopydate makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)loopydate makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)loopydate makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)loopydate makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)loopydate makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)loopydate makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
WWF/E has always done this, though. They take fans' desire to see someone "new" at the top, and throw a mid-card jobber into the main event for a couple of weeks, squash them, then let the same old guys run the show.

It happened with the Patriot in '96. Most WWF fans didn't even know who he was, but because the top heel was a Canadian, a guy in a red-white-and-blue mask HAD to get over, right? Wrong. Within a month, Bret was back to feuding with the Austins, Michaelses, and Shamrocks of the day.

It happened with Bubba Ray and Bradshaw right after the brand extension. Two tag-team specialists with moderate charisma but lacking the necessary skill to carry a main-event feud get thrown in with the Triple Hs and Austins, the fans don't buy it, and they reunite with their tag partners within a couple of months.

It's happening with Holly now. They think that because the current WWE Champion was the one who put him on the shelf, fans will get behind him when he goes for revenge. The sad truth is, Holly is not all that talented (at least, not since he bulked up in the late-'90s), and no one honestly believes he can beat Brock. Not only is he not a "new star" being created, he's damaging one of the legit new stars they DO have by making Brock pretend to be afraid of a middle-aged, balding, garbage wrestler.
loopydate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 01:45 PM   #4
Loose Cannon
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
I actually enjoy when the WWE does something like this. It gives you something fresh to watch for a little while instead of seeing the same top guys feuding all the time. But I can't stand Holly right now, so I hope Lesner puts him away for good at the Rumble.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 01:51 PM   #5
Fryza
Fthagn?
 
Fryza's Avatar
 
Posts: 10,042
Fryza puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Fryza puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Fryza puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Fryza puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Fryza puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Fryza puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Fryza puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Fryza puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Fryza puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)
I thought what they were doing with Holly was "feeding" him to Lesnar, not trying to make a new star..
Fryza is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 01:54 PM   #6
Loose Cannon
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fryza
I thought what they were doing with Holly was "feeding" him to Lesnar, not trying to make a new star..
Yeah, but they have been building him up so it makes the casual fan believe that Holly might actually have a shot at beating Brock. After Brock beats his ass, he'll drift back down to the midcards.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 03:22 PM   #7
ilt_undertaker
Sexy
 
Posts: 5,443
ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)
Remember when TAKA got a title shot against HHH?
ilt_undertaker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 03:35 PM   #8
Danny Electric
dirty irani
 
Danny Electric's Avatar
 
Posts: 11,956
Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)
Remember that Holly - HHH match on Heat a few years back.
Danny Electric is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 05:11 PM   #9
Mr. Nerfect
 
Posts: 61,634
Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
I think it's a good idea to push someone to the top even if it is for just a few weeks. I would drool over a Tajiri/Triple H feud.
Mr. Nerfect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 05:20 PM   #10
Sephiroth
Your All Puppets
 
Sephiroth's Avatar
 
Posts: 7,585
Sephiroth puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Sephiroth puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Sephiroth puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Sephiroth puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Sephiroth puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Sephiroth puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Sephiroth puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Sephiroth puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Sephiroth puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)
Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Yeah, but they have been building him up so it makes the casual fan believe that Holly might actually have a shot at beating Brock. After Brock beats his ass, he'll drift back down to the midcards.
Yeah...i hope he will break Holly's neck again.
Sephiroth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 05:28 PM   #11
Fryza
Fthagn?
 
Fryza's Avatar
 
Posts: 10,042
Fryza puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Fryza puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Fryza puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Fryza puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Fryza puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Fryza puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Fryza puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Fryza puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Fryza puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ilt_undertaker
Remember when TAKA got a title shot against HHH?
Greatest thing ever.
Fryza is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 05:36 PM   #12
Savio
Spammy Certified
 
Savio's Avatar
 
Posts: 46,132
Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ilt_undertaker
Remember when TAKA got a title shot against HHH?
and Gillberg
Savio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 05:40 PM   #13
FourFifty
As over as Crystal Pepsi
 
FourFifty's Avatar
 
Posts: 21,639
FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alienoid06
I think it's a good idea to push someone to the top even if it is for just a few weeks. I would drool over a Tajiri/Triple H feud.
Tajiri death kick the nose! Tajiri death kick to the nose!
FourFifty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 06:01 PM   #14
Corkscrewed
 
Corkscrewed's Avatar
 
Posts: 18,357
Corkscrewed has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Corkscrewed has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Corkscrewed has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Corkscrewed has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Corkscrewed has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Corkscrewed has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Corkscrewed has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Corkscrewed has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Corkscrewed has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Corkscrewed has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Corkscrewed has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)
Black Mist!!!! Black Mist!!!
Corkscrewed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 06:04 PM   #15
Funky Fly
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fryza
Greatest thing ever.
Indeed. Probably the only squash match Triple H had where he actually made someone else look strong.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 07:28 PM   #16
Mikey
 
Posts: 4,668
Mikey is pretty cool (5,000+)Mikey is pretty cool (5,000+)Mikey is pretty cool (5,000+)Mikey is pretty cool (5,000+)
Remember when Christian was Light Heavyweight Champion?
Mikey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 08:05 PM   #17
glycerine
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
i thought it was an excellent angle we always root for the underdog bubba has soem of the best dialogue and even gave RVD some greate dialogue
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 08:55 PM   #18
Savio
Spammy Certified
 
Savio's Avatar
 
Posts: 46,132
Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Funky Fly
Indeed. Probably the only squash match Triple H had where he actually made someone else look strong.
and Gillberg
Savio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 09:29 PM   #19
ilt_undertaker
Sexy
 
Posts: 5,443
ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
Remember when Christian was Light Heavyweight Champion?
Remember when TAKA was the LightHeavyWeight champ?
ilt_undertaker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2004, 10:50 AM   #20
Mikey
 
Posts: 4,668
Mikey is pretty cool (5,000+)Mikey is pretty cool (5,000+)Mikey is pretty cool (5,000+)Mikey is pretty cool (5,000+)
How about Al snow as the funniest European champion of all time!
Mikey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2004, 11:34 AM   #21
Sin Harvest
Strength beyond strength
 
Posts: 144
Sin Harvest does not have that much rep yet (10+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by danny electric
Remember that Holly - HHH match on Heat a few years back.
Yeah and Chris Jericho interfered right? Never saw it, but apparently it was the reason behing a Jericho/Holly match on RAW the next night.
Sin Harvest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2004, 11:35 AM   #22
ilt_undertaker
Sexy
 
Posts: 5,443
ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)ilt_undertaker is good (20,000+)
How bout Sid Vicious and Kevin Nash as HeavyWeight champs? Funny
ilt_undertaker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2004, 11:53 AM   #23
Eunos
Bastard Deer
 
Eunos's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,385
Eunos has more than 1,000 rep points (1,000+)Eunos has more than 1,000 rep points (1,000+)
Could just be me but i think this will be Hardcore Hollys 2nd Title shot.

Didnt like he get a shot when Big show was champ?
Eunos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2004, 12:06 PM   #24
Danny Electric
dirty irani
 
Danny Electric's Avatar
 
Posts: 11,956
Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Danny Electric has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sin Harvest
Yeah and Chris Jericho interfered right? Never saw it, but apparently it was the reason behing a Jericho/Holly match on RAW the next night.
That's the one. Holly had the crown behind him and looked like he was about to win when Jericho interfered.
Danny Electric is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2004, 12:40 PM   #25
Kane Knight
Ron Paul 4 EVA
 
Kane Knight's Avatar
 
Posts: 152,467
Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fryza
I thought what they were doing with Holly was "feeding" him to Lesnar, not trying to make a new star..
They are invariably feeding him to Lesnar, but there's a problem here.

He's taken out Big Show. He's got Brock running scared. He's pounded on Brock enough that it looks like a major push.

Then he's gonna get creamed and disappear. It wastes energy, it gets fans behind someone who'll be gone after the rumble...
Kane Knight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2004, 12:46 PM   #26
Loose Cannon
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kane Knight
They are invariably feeding him to Lesnar, but there's a problem here.

He's taken out Big Show. He's got Brock running scared. He's pounded on Brock enough that it looks like a major push.

Then he's gonna get creamed and disappear. It wastes energy, it gets fans behind someone who'll be gone after the rumble...
This kind of reminds me of when Bret was champ in the early-mid 90's and they would put him in feuds with guys like Hakushi, Pierre Lafiete(sp), Doink and other mid carders. The feud would last for like a month, then they would have thier match and Bret would win. I like when they do stuff like this cause it's just something fresh. And Eventhough I despise Holly, they have done one hell of a job building the feud up and making the casual fan believe that maybe Holly might have a chance. They did the same thing last Feb with Brock and Cena, although it worked better because Brock was babyface and Cena was heel.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2004, 01:34 PM   #27
Kane Knight
Ron Paul 4 EVA
 
Kane Knight's Avatar
 
Posts: 152,467
Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
This kind of reminds me of when Bret was champ in the early-mid 90's and they would put him in feuds with guys like Hakushi, Pierre Lafiete(sp), Doink and other mid carders. The feud would last for like a month, then they would have thier match and Bret would win. I like when they do stuff like this cause it's just something fresh. And Eventhough I despise Holly, they have done one hell of a job building the feud up and making the casual fan believe that maybe Holly might have a chance. They did the same thing last Feb with Brock and Cena, although it worked better because Brock was babyface and Cena was heel.
How is it fresh to do the same thing with different people?
Kane Knight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2004, 01:37 PM   #28
MVP
Mas Vagina Porfavor
 
MVP's Avatar
 
Posts: 11,343
MVP has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)MVP has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)MVP has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)MVP has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)MVP has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)MVP has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)MVP has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)MVP has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)MVP has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)MVP has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
I remember when Jeff hardy was fed to Triple H and he beat him a couple of years back. I think he won the IC title off him in that match. Either way, I loved that match. When they feed the right midcarders to main eventers, then they can be bought as "new stars." Good examples today are John Cena and Randy Orton.
MVP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2004, 01:50 PM   #29
Kane Knight
Ron Paul 4 EVA
 
Kane Knight's Avatar
 
Posts: 152,467
Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by MVP
I remember when Jeff hardy was fed to Triple H and he beat him a couple of years back. I think he won the IC title off him in that match. Either way, I loved that match. When they feed the right midcarders to main eventers, then they can be bought as "new stars." Good examples today are John Cena and Randy Orton.
John Cena was gonna be huge with or without being "fed" to Brock.

Orton's huge because he's hanging arounf Flair and HHH and getting a push by association.
Kane Knight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2004, 03:11 PM   #30
Loose Cannon
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kane Knight
How is it fresh to do the same thing with different people?
Well you kind of answered your own question in that different feuds keep wrestling fresh, at least to me it does. I like to see different guys, eventhough they might suck, get title shots or just get a chance to shine. I was probably the only one that liked it a couple of months ago when Mark Henry got a shot at Goldberg. I don't know, I just like to see different matches instead of the Kurt-Brock or Benoit-Brock or HHH-Michaels, HHH-Goldberg all the time. But what it should be right now is Guerrero-Brock if they were going to change it up a little.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2004, 03:26 PM   #31
Kane Knight
Ron Paul 4 EVA
 
Kane Knight's Avatar
 
Posts: 152,467
Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Well you kind of answered your own question in that different feuds keep wrestling fresh, at least to me it does. I like to see different guys, eventhough they might suck, get title shots or just get a chance to shine. I was probably the only one that liked it a couple of months ago when Mark Henry got a shot at Goldberg. I don't know, I just like to see different matches instead of the Kurt-Brock or Benoit-Brock or HHH-Michaels, HHH-Goldberg all the time. But what it should be right now is Guerrero-Brock if they were going to change it up a little.
So different guys doing the same thing are better than fresh angles, even if they might have the same guys in 'em?
Kane Knight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2004, 03:35 PM   #32
Loose Cannon
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kane Knight
So different guys doing the same thing are better than fresh angles, even if they might have the same guys in 'em?
Well then it would depend on the angle. If I had to pick between whats going now between Holly and Brock or the "Katie Vick" angle between Kane and HHH, I would certainly go with the first. And thats just throwing something off the top of my head. But if it were a Great angle with the same guys, like Hart-Michaels in the Canada vs USA wars, then I would pick that over a Holly-Brock kind of thing. But they are also doing a "fresh" thing with Angle and Guerrero right now too. I am presuming Angle is going to turn heel and he and Eddie will start a feud. That is something I definately want to see.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2004, 04:01 PM   #33
Kane Knight
Ron Paul 4 EVA
 
Kane Knight's Avatar
 
Posts: 152,467
Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Well then it would depend on the angle. If I had to pick between whats going now between Holly and Brock or the "Katie Vick" angle between Kane and HHH, I would certainly go with the first. And thats just throwing something off the top of my head. But if it were a Great angle with the same guys, like Hart-Michaels in the Canada vs USA wars, then I would pick that over a Holly-Brock kind of thing. But they are also doing a "fresh" thing with Angle and Guerrero right now too. I am presuming Angle is going to turn heel and he and Eddie will start a feud. That is something I definately want to see.
You know, polar arguments like that are pretty one-sided. They sure are easy to win, but they're really not all that useful for determining information.

saying "I'd rather watch Crash Holly than HHH fuck a corpse" is much akin to "I'd rather eat Lima Beans than have a hole drilled into my stomach on a nightly basis."

You mean you'd rather watch a poor and overdone storyline than the one that sticks out in everyone's mind as the WORST angle in the last few years?

No offense, but:

Well No Shit!



My point here is that this is kinda a poor indication on how much or little you like it.

Quite frankly, I'd be happier with fresh angles than the usual "build a guy up for one month, drop him like a sack of shit the night after the PPV" deal. This isn't really new, with the exception of some rather superficial details. The Angle angle's okay, but has been a bit predictable too. It has the upside of not being a total cliché at this point though, so it gets more benefit of the doubt here.

The Brock-Holly thing is the sort of thing you always see as filler when they don't have a real storyline to cook up. The only real and significant difference here is that they have a slight reason to build this one up...After all, Holly had his neck broken. Still, it's a bandaid over a sucking chest wound.

I'd like to see fresh people come up to the main event. just...Not like this. This sorta "elevate 'em only to drop 'em" deal is a temporary fix, at best. It's like taking caffeine to stay awake. Short run, good. long run, no good. The problem is, they've used caffeine on me so much it's no longer effective...
Kane Knight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2004, 04:21 PM   #34
Loose Cannon
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kane Knight
You know, polar arguments like that are pretty one-sided. They sure are easy to win, but they're really not all that useful for determining information.

saying "I'd rather watch Crash Holly than HHH fuck a corpse" is much akin to "I'd rather eat Lima Beans than have a hole drilled into my stomach on a nightly basis."

You mean you'd rather watch a poor and overdone storyline than the one that sticks out in everyone's mind as the WORST angle in the last few years?

No offense, but:

Well No Shit!



My point here is that this is kinda a poor indication on how much or little you like it.

Quite frankly, I'd be happier with fresh angles than the usual "build a guy up for one month, drop him like a sack of shit the night after the PPV" deal. This isn't really new, with the exception of some rather superficial details. The Angle angle's okay, but has been a bit predictable too. It has the upside of not being a total cliché at this point though, so it gets more benefit of the doubt here.

The Brock-Holly thing is the sort of thing you always see as filler when they don't have a real storyline to cook up. The only real and significant difference here is that they have a slight reason to build this one up...After all, Holly had his neck broken. Still, it's a bandaid over a sucking chest wound.

I'd like to see fresh people come up to the main event. just...Not like this. This sorta "elevate 'em only to drop 'em" deal is a temporary fix, at best. It's like taking caffeine to stay awake. Short run, good. long run, no good. The problem is, they've used caffeine on me so much it's no longer effective...

Yeah I just used those examples cause I had to run and I threw them off the top of my head. I was just using an example of a new storyline, although a bad one, with the same guys. That's all. But I have no problem with temporary fixes at all because like I said before I enjoy seeing other wreslters get a shot. Like someone else mentioned before abour Hardy and Taker, I thought that was great and when they had that ladder match on Raw, I actually believed for a moment, although a very very brief moment, that Hardy might pull it off. I guess I guess maybe I just long for those upsets, that usually never occur, when you have those kind of feuds.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2004, 04:54 PM   #35
SUPREMO
S**K IT!
 
SUPREMO's Avatar
 
Posts: 121
SUPREMO does not have that much rep yet (10+)
i new bubba was going to beat him
SUPREMO is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:30 PM.

Forums Home - TPWW - Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin®