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Old 11-27-2005, 11:16 PM   #1
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This is now the "reminisce over the wrestling of old" HBK delivers more Hart attacks
HBK delivers more Hart attacks
By TIM BAINES - Ottawa Sun


Old habits die hard. Shawn Michaels really is the Hart break kid.

Michaels has finally fessed up for his role in the infamous 1997 Montreal Survivor Series "screwjob" of Bret Hart.

It was no secret that WWE boss Vince McMahon decided to "screw" Hart out of the WWE championship in that night's main event.

What we didn't know for sure was The Heartbreak Kid's involvement. Michaels, in his new book Heartbreak & Triumph: The Shawn Michaels Story, says he conspired with McMahon, Triple H and Jerry Brisco to make sure Hart lost the championship right before he left WWE to join WCW.

"Bret was leaving, but he was refusing to lose," Michaels says in the book. "For all we knew, he might take our championship belt down to WCW and make a mockery of it and use. We couldn't afford to take the chance. It may not seem like much to an outsider, but in the wrestling world, what we were going to do was the equivalent of a mafia hit.And I was going to be Jack Ruby.

"It may have been Vince's decision to swerve Bret out of the title, but I was going to be the one pulling the trigger."

Michaels admits saying to McMahon. "If we have to do a fast count or get him in a hold and tell someone to ring the bell. I'll do whatever you want me to do."

Michaels says McMahon told him: "Bret's going to be hot. You need to put the heat on me. He's going to be mad at me and he is going to want to hit me. I'm going to let him. I owe Bret that much."

Michaels also says ref Earl Hebner was let in on the dirty secret just before the match.

"I believed in my heart that I did the right thing, but I still felt a little dirty," says Michaels.

"I know this is going to sound offensive coming from me, but Bret was not a great wrestler. He was good, very, very good ... but not great. He wasn't that versatile in the ring. The things he did, he did well, but he didn't do a lot of exciting stuff."

If you can get past the shots at Bret, Michaels' book is a very good read. Sometimes arrogant, but seemingly a straight shooter, Michaels pulls no punches on things like problems with his longtime tag-team partner Marty Jannetty.

But you can bet Michaels' popularity level in Canada will take another dip.
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Old 11-27-2005, 11:24 PM   #2
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"I know this is going to sound offensive coming from me, but Bret was not a great wrestler. He was good, very, very good ... but not great. He wasn't that versatile in the ring. The things he did, he did well, but he didn't do a lot of exciting stuff."
Bret was a wrestler's wrestler. I cant really deny that he didn't do the exciting things of a HBK. But he could tell a story like no one else, and was more technically sound than anyone has ever been before him.

Interesting to hear HBKs side of the story. Its what I have been saying for years, for the most part, you mesh Bret's story with this one and you finally have the truth.
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Old 11-27-2005, 11:59 PM   #3
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i have a shoot interview of shawns from 2000 and he admitted in that interview exactly whats in his book (which i am reading and love)
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Old 11-28-2005, 12:04 AM   #4
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I thought that Shawn never came out clean until his Confidential segment...
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Old 11-28-2005, 12:21 AM   #5
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I freaking hate Tim Baines. His arrticles on wrestling are kind of crap. The only thing saving them are interviews with sweet wrestlers that he probably stole from someone else.

They're not always bad, I just think a lot of views are pretty much the same as a 14 year-old. Like D-X reforming. D-X should never reform.
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I couldn't have been the only one who figured this is how it went down.
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Old 11-28-2005, 01:19 PM   #10
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I'm not really a fan of Bret Hart, he just seems to love himself too much, I've never seen a wrestler so full of himself like Bret other than Hogan.
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I'm a huge HUGE Bret Hart fan but Shawn (and Ric Flair) has a point. A lot of Bret's matches were very similar. He was incredible at what he did, but he really didn't add many innovative components to his matches.
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Old 11-28-2005, 03:53 PM   #12
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HBK is a bitch.

Bret could wrestle anyone and make them look good, plain as. It didnt matter what style they employed, he was the man.

When HBK can sell a story like the Hitman in the ring, let me know.

Secondly, aerial tactics and high flying acrobatics are weak. Bret stuck with what he knew worked and he worked it well.
I always thought it to be completely stupid to have a guy down, then take the time to go climbing up something like a monkey to possibly land an elbow or something.


Bret is the man.
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Old 11-28-2005, 04:29 PM   #13
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HBK is a bitch.

Bret could wrestle anyone and make them look good, plain as. It didnt matter what style they employed, he was the man.

When HBK can sell a story like the Hitman in the ring, let me know.

Secondly, aerial tactics and high flying acrobatics are weak. Bret stuck with what he knew worked and he worked it well.
I always thought it to be completely stupid to have a guy down, then take the time to go climbing up something like a monkey to possibly land an elbow or something.


Bret is the man.
What are you going to do? Threaten to jump the railing the next time HBK is in Montreal?

Oh wait...
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Old 11-28-2005, 04:53 PM   #14
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The title is sorta misleading... makes it sound like HBK comes out with major attacks, but he's just giving his opinion. Not really meaning to insult (as it came out anyway; dunno if he really hates Bret still or not).

To me, the article seems like sensationalist news.
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Old 11-28-2005, 04:54 PM   #15
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There's also the point that one doesn't necessarily have to be "innovative" to be good in the ring.

I'm tempted to start wrestling as simply the second coming of Kevin Sullivan, (I'm 5'9" and kind of stocky) only with a better finish (The belly stomp works as a move, but not so much as a finish.), maybe the Tongan Death Grip.
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Old 11-28-2005, 05:01 PM   #16
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Secondly, aerial tactics and high flying acrobatics are weak. Bret stuck with what he knew worked and he worked it well.
I always thought it to be completely stupid to have a guy down, then take the time to go climbing up something like a monkey to possibly land an elbow or something.
well bret used to go to the 2nd turnbuckle to drop an elbow in every single match he had...so are you saying that was a stupid move?
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Old 11-28-2005, 05:05 PM   #17
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No, plus there was no wasted movement, it was usually during his arsenal of the five moves of doom.

I'm just not that high on lots of huge high flying spots. Hell, I'll even bash Teddy Hart over that much.
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Old 11-28-2005, 05:12 PM   #18
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I'm not really a fan of Bret Hart, he just seems to love himself too much, I've never seen a wrestler so full of himself like Bret other than Hogan.
WTF, wrestlers have egos, get over it. You try going out in front of thousands of people night in and night out screaming your name, and see if that doesn't give you an ego.
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"I know this is going to sound offensive coming from me, but Bret was not a great wrestler. He was good, very, very good ... but not great. He wasn't that versatile in the ring. The things he did, he did well, but he didn't do a lot of exciting stuff."
And I suppose wasting time to showboat to the crowd every five minutes is considered great wrestling.

I think the crowd reaction for Bret whenever he was in a match rproves enough that he was an exciting person to watch. I don't think Bret Hart is popular just cause he wore pink sunglasses.
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I'm a huge HUGE Bret Hart fan but Shawn (and Ric Flair) has a point. A lot of Bret's matches were very similar. He was incredible at what he did, but he really didn't add many innovative components to his matches.
Yeah and Ric Flair put on a wrestling bible in the ring by always getting tossed off the turnbuckle, giving sucker punches, and having absolutely no psychology in the ring.
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having absolutely no psychology in the ring.
Are you high? [/Shelton]

Ric had an amazing psychology in his matches.
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One minute Flair would be working on someone's arm then he'd work the leg, then throw his opponent in the turnbuckle or something.
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I'm not trying to put down Flair's wrestling abilities because he's by far one of the best technical wrestlers of all time, but his wrestling matches are even more formulaic than Bret's style.
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In HBK Physical Prime which I say was the first time he won the World Title to WM14 he really didn't rely on Psychology as much as Bret did, but HBK was still great.

Now though HBK uses Psychology better then anyone since his return which IMO proves he is the best ever. He has changed his style so much and still been has great really says how great HBK is.

Bret is also great, but not as great as HBK.
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Ric Flair's psycology > Bret Hart + HBK
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Flair is great, but he really didn't use psychology.

MVP was right about that one
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well to be fair, there's not just one form of psychology. Working the leg, which lets everyone know you're seting "wrestler x" up for the sharpshooter is one form. Another form is the way you handle your character in the ring. From the way Flair always got down on two knees and pleaded with "wrestler x" not to hit him to to the eye pokes to the strut he did mid match to the way he would get on the crowd. That's all pyschology. It adds to his character development.
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Still everyone here was talking about in ring wrestling psychology.

Point taken though.
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Still everyone here was talking about in ring wrestling psychology.

Point taken though.
Not true. I was talking about crowd psycology (which is the most important.)
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In HBK Physical Prime which I say was the first time he won the World Title to WM14...

It was Wrestlemania 12. He lost it to SCSA at WM 14.
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Exactly, its at the point of personal preference. I happen to prefer Bret over Shawn. But I still recognize how goos HBK was and still is.
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Check some of my other post in that barb wire thread, and see if I mention ring psychology. Nope sure didn't, all crowd psychology. Its what is actually important. Ring psychology is only important (I'm generalizing) to real wrestlers (armature) because they are the only ones looking to see if Shawn placed his hand on the inner thigh of his opponent before he did the standing switch. Fans don't even notice crowd psychology if its done right, the just buy into the product.
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Exactly, its at the point of personal preference. I happen to prefer Bret over Shawn. But I still recognize how goos HBK was and still is.
ya I like Bret more too but Shawn is still the man
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