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Old 12-06-2005, 07:45 PM   #1
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I just watched the Ulimate Warrior dvd...
omg, that was funny as shit. Heenan was gold on there.
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Old 12-06-2005, 07:56 PM   #2
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best part is they showed the no-sell of the pedigree, no one gets to do that anymore.
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:09 PM   #3
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I wish there were more matches on it. I felt kinda cheated.

Christian was the best, though.
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:23 PM   #4
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I wish there were more matches on it. I felt kinda cheated.

Christian was the best, though.
Um, all his matches were basically the same.
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Um, all his matches were basically the same.
Like Cena.
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Old 12-06-2005, 09:00 PM   #6
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And he babbled like an idiot....











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Yeah just watched it the other day as well. His promos were hilarious. Something about having lawnmowers roll over him or something?
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Old 12-06-2005, 09:54 PM   #8
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It is to bad that Wrestling fans are now going to remember him for what they said in the DVD and not how it actually was. Warrior was one of the most over wrestlers in the WWE, everything on the dvd is taken out of context. Just watch one Warrior match and you can see why, he gets the crowd into it from start to finish, something almost all of the wwe superstars can not now. That is why he was WWF Champion, not because he could put on a wrestling clinic, but because he got the crowd so into the match, it didn't matter. That's what the 80's wrestling was about, it had very little to do with wrestling, and much more to do with entertainment. That's why Hogan was so good, and that's why Warrior was so good. WWE needs to get there heads out of there asses, because if Warrior wasn't that good then why did the WWF put the world title on him, and have him main event over guys like Hulk Hogan at Wrestlemania 5 and why did they let Warrior end the career of Randy Savage?
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Yes, Warrior was a big draw while he was on his way to the top. However, he was a major flop once he won the belt (at Wrestlemania 6, not 5, just f.y.i.). The novelty of the "unstoppable force" gimmicks wears off when there's nowhere else for them to go (see: Goldberg, Bill), and the crowd stops caring. Yes, they went wild when he finally beat Hogan. But once his initial momentum wore off, Warrior couldn't keep the fans excited about him, despite giving the crowd more or less exactly what they wanted to see (see: Orton, Randy).

The true greats in the industry- your Flairs, Stings, Austins, and yes, even your Hogans- were able to keep bringing in the crowds even after their first mega-push came to an end. Warrior couldn't, and that's why he'll only be remembered as one of WWE's countless failed experiments to find a new top draw.
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It is to bad that Wrestling fans are now going to remember him for what they said in the DVD and not how it actually was. Warrior was one of the most over wrestlers in the WWE, everything on the dvd is taken out of context. Just watch one Warrior match and you can see why, he gets the crowd into it from start to finish, something almost all of the wwe superstars can not now. That is why he was WWF Champion, not because he could put on a wrestling clinic, but because he got the crowd so into the match, it didn't matter. That's what the 80's wrestling was about, it had very little to do with wrestling, and much more to do with entertainment. That's why Hogan was so good, and that's why Warrior was so good. WWE needs to get there heads out of there asses, because if Warrior wasn't that good then why did the WWF put the world title on him, and have him main event over guys like Hulk Hogan at Wrestlemania 5 and why did they let Warrior end the career of Randy Savage?


I agree. I watched it to 2 wrestling fan friends of mine, they didn't agree, but I think the warrior would've been one of the biggest draws ever if not for all his bullshit. Agreed, he couldnt wrestle, but in a way, I think his persona limited what minimal ability he had. No one would want to see this superhero like guy come in and wrestle a match, they'd wanna see him come in and kick some ass, which he did. Warrior screwed himself over basically.
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My favorite Warrior match was not on there (Summerslam 89 vs Rude) I wish Warrior told his side of the story on the DVD however. They never talked about how he rejected the HOF offer. Plus I heard while Warrior did hold up Vince for money at Summerslam 91 I read that Vince screwed him out of his WM 7 money.
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Yeah just watched it the other day as well. His promos were hilarious. Something about having lawnmowers roll over him or something?
Thought I heard something about lawnmowing
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Yeah he talked about falling off a buliding, laying in a yard getting run over by a lawnmower and getting trampled by elphants in Africa lol.
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Yeah he talked about falling off a buliding, laying in a yard getting run over by a lawnmower and getting trampled by elphants in Africa lol.
Holy shit, he was awesome.
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Here's hoping I wasn't the only one that laughed hysterically when he said he was gonna crash Hulk Hogan's plane...
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Yeah he talked about falling off a buliding, laying in a yard getting run over by a lawnmower and getting trampled by elphants in Africa lol.
Yes, he said some really stupid things, but the guy is very smart, to smart, and crazy(don't forget crazy) for the wwf. He didn't go out there and scream a bunch of "I'M GONNA TAKE YOU DOWN, YOU CAN'T BEAT ME, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH!" in a really loud voice. He yelled things that I don't understand, and you don't understand, but some how, Warrior understands. Is the guy nuts, yes, is he a legend? yes. That stuff about him not being a draw in the wwf after he beat hogan is bullshit. I was there watching Summerslam '91. And Hogan and Warrior teaming up was bigger than Hogan vs. Slaughter. The Warrior stopped being a big draw because of the insainty that happend after that match at Summerslam. Because he left and no one knew why, then he came back and didn't look the same, people just didn't care anymore after he left. But seriously, who wanted to see Warrior vs. Papa Shango anyway? He stopped being a big draw because wwf wanted him to. period.
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Warrior's match at Mania 7 against Savage is the only match of his I enjoyed.
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The beautiful part of it all is that, while it criticises Warrior tremendously, the question is never raised of - if he was really that bad, why the fuck did WWE continue to bring him back?
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Trying to bottle what he had and make money? That's an easy one to answer
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The beautiful part of it all is that, while it criticises Warrior tremendously, the question is never raised of - if he was really that bad, why the fuck did WWE continue to bring him back?
Yeah, that question was raised, and they thought they could control him or work something out, but he was a dick.
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:49 PM   #22
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he may have been difficult but i bet he was nothing like shawn micheals was back int he day. He was larger then life, a cartoon charcter coming to life is the best way hes ever been described. Hulk Hogans entrance gave you goosebumps, ultimate warriors made you feel like he was gonna run out of your tv screen,run past you and then into the ring. I understand that there are pepole who just didnt like him (same way some pepole NEVER liked hogan..ever) but a lot of this hating has been band wagon riding. like ANY of us knew what a REAL wrestling match looked like in the 80s, most of us had 8 diffrent ideas of what a body slam was, and so did the annoucers. There have been many hulk hogans since hulk hogan, but never another warrior.

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There have been many Hulk Hogans? Where was I?
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Yeah, I don't recall more hogans. I do recall 2 undertakers, and multiple people playing Doink, but only ever one Hogan.
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Plus, Renegade almost counts as a second Warrior.
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Yes, Warrior was a big draw while he was on his way to the top. However, he was a major flop once he won the belt (at Wrestlemania 6, not 5, just f.y.i.). The novelty of the "unstoppable force" gimmicks wears off when there's nowhere else for them to go (see: Goldberg, Bill), and the crowd stops caring. Yes, they went wild when he finally beat Hogan. But once his initial momentum wore off, Warrior couldn't keep the fans excited about him, despite giving the crowd more or less exactly what they wanted to see (see: Orton, Randy)..
You do realize the common theme with all 3 of those guys right?

Warrior: Won the Belt from Hoagn, but the WWF completely forgot to build heels for him. Hogan HAD a tremendous array of built heels for him. Warrior had Rick Rude, who wasn't even on Warrior's level. Once the audience sees that the challenger to a Title is not on equal terms as the Champion, you're doomed right away

Goldberg: WCW completely fucked this up by having him lose to Nash. Goldberg was more over then he ever was come Starcade 98. From the buyrates, to the merchendise, to the ticket sales, Goldberg was doing everything right. Then WCW has him lose and then continue to book him as a joke after that and thus killing his steam off.

Orton: The most over guy in the WWE at Summerslam when he won the Title. Then once again, the WWE screws up by turning Orton babyface, making him run off all the time, turning him into a pussy and thus killing the "coolness" factor that got him over in the first place.

So it's not that the crowd wore on these guys because they didn't care for them anymore, it was the booking that totally screwed all these guys up.

People tend to not believe this, but it can take 6 months sometimes to build a guy to a point where the audience goes nuts for them, but you can kill a guys momentum with 1 or 2 stupid booking decisions.
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There have been many Hulk Hogans? Where was I?
Guess you never heard of ric flair,the rock,stone cold steve austin etc etc. All these pepole reveled in popularity that was close to hogan when they hit that entrance way, but to this day NOTHING made me feel like i did when i heard the warriors music....that intensity is so irreplaceable, and as a kid from the ADHD era, you best believe i lost it when i heard his music....
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Flair, Rock and Austin are not just Hogan knock offs. Flair was before or same time as Hogan. Austin is the greatest anti-hero ever, and Rock everything Hogan ever wanted to be...
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Old 12-15-2005, 06:30 PM   #31
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Guess you never heard of ric flair,the rock,stone cold steve austin etc etc. All these pepole reveled in popularity that was close to hogan when they hit that entrance way, but to this day NOTHING made me feel like i did when i heard the warriors music....that intensity is so irreplaceable, and as a kid from the ADHD era, you best believe i lost it when i heard his music....
lol, this is the most ridiculous piece of crap I've ever heard. So just because they were popular and put asses in the seats, they are just more Hogan's?
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Goldberg: WCW completely fucked this up by having him lose to Nash.
The loss it self was not bad. Nash giving the title to hogan fucked everything up.
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With Nash on the booking team at the time, what more would you expect?
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lol, this is the most ridiculous piece of crap I've ever heard. So just because they were popular and put asses in the seats, they are just more Hogan's?
You know if you werent so damn touchy with words and you just viewed my opinion maybe youd get it. I dont mean they were EXACT hogans i just mean there intensty was not that of the warriors, there populairty was comparable to hogans beacuse they were just over like a suicde jumper,but NOBODY in the buisness is yet to make me feel like the warrior did when that music hit is what im saying. The rock, SCSA, and all the others i said were comparable i meant only by fan reaction, they all go super loud when any of these pepole hit (cept hogan, he owns that shit now) just like they do for hogan. None of them bring the intensity that warrior did is wht im saying. While they just stand there and raise an eye brow,throw a midle finger or cup there ears it Warrior was a blistering war path of colors flying to the ring, and when he got there it just didnt stop. his rope shaking out of control maniac ways right to the sound of the bell has NEVER been duplicated.
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I still don't get what you're trying to say. Guys like Taker, Hogan, Rock, Austin, Bret, HBK, Warrior, Flair, Andre, Savage have never been duplicated and never will be. There's no point in trying to say only the Warrior was one of a kind.
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You know if you werent so damn touchy with words and you just viewed my opinion maybe youd get it. I dont mean they were EXACT hogans i just mean there intensty was not that of the warriors, there populairty was comparable to hogans beacuse they were just over like a suicde jumper,but NOBODY in the buisness is yet to make me feel like the warrior did when that music hit is what im saying. The rock, SCSA, and all the others i said were comparable i meant only by fan reaction, they all go super loud when any of these pepole hit (cept hogan, he owns that shit now) just like they do for hogan. None of them bring the intensity that warrior did is wht im saying. While they just stand there and raise an eye brow,throw a midle finger or cup there ears it Warrior was a blistering war path of colors flying to the ring, and when he got there it just didnt stop. his rope shaking out of control maniac ways right to the sound of the bell has NEVER been duplicated.
So because you and Warrior have ADHD/ADD/are hyper active, he is your personal hero? Well, some pissant on some gay wrestling website does not make Warrior one of a kind and everyone else just a hogan clone. I think I understand what you are saying, but your metaphore suck. And your hero sucks as well.
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Old 12-16-2005, 03:17 AM   #39
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I forgot to mention how much I HATE IT when batista does it....as i said before NO one has the intensity...especially a near 40 year old semi-rookie whos on his first title run....i like batisita just not that whole warrior rip off thing he does...
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Old 12-16-2005, 03:53 AM   #40
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I'm pumped for High School Musical 2! I hope it's not just like the first one!

I don't know if you guys have ever heard any 7-10 year olds talk about the Disney channel, but it's honestly like listening to people talk about this whole other world that is paralell to our own. They talk about some of the Disney kids like they're the biggest fucking shit going.
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