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Old 01-05-2006, 12:48 PM   #1
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World Title reunification???
I was reading the Should WWE Introduce a TV Title thread and I had an idea.

What if you were to reunify the two world titles so that the one champ defends on both shows, but have the IC and US titles as the top titles of the two brands?

I think its a good idea because it changes things around a bit and, some freshness into the shows is a good thing, but it also elevates the status of the IC and US titles, making them more important in the grand scheme of things.

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Old 01-05-2006, 12:50 PM   #2
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Then one show would be without a world title feud for at least a month. Not exactly a good idea. No way one guy can keep up two feuds at once for months on end and never have them come together.
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Old 01-05-2006, 12:51 PM   #3
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Could be a good idea for a short term angle/feud.
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Then one show would be without a world title feud for at least a month. Not exactly a good idea. No way one guy can keep up two feuds at once for months on end and never have them come together.
See, that was one of the issues I had with the idea, but just to make things interesting you could have the occasional Champ vs. Raw superstar vs. Smackdown superstar in a triple threat match for the title.

Also, you could see cross brand alliances between wrestlers trying to unseat the current champ.

It provides a bit more brand interaction without it always being Raw vs. Smackdown.
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But that defeats the purpose of two brands and those kinds of scenarios should only happen once a year in my opinion, around WrestleMania time.
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Old 01-05-2006, 12:59 PM   #6
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Then one show would be without a world title feud for at least a month. Not exactly a good idea. No way one guy can keep up two feuds at once for months on end and never have them come together.
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But that defeats the purpose of two brands and those kinds of scenarios should only happen once a year in my opinion, around WrestleMania time.
What can I say? I'm just sick of seeing the same old shit over and over again, I want something new.
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Then one show would be without a world title feud for at least a month. Not exactly a good idea. No way one guy can keep up two feuds at once for months on end and never have them come together.
Sure they can. Happens all the time in the indies. Personally, I think the roster split should come to an end altogether.
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Love the idea.
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Sure they can. Happens all the time in the indies. Personally, I think the roster split should come to an end altogether.
The difference between the indies and the WWE is that the WWE is one company. More often than not in the indies they run different feuds in different promotions, which don't operate as often as the WWE.

Plus it's one title.

(I knew someone would bring that argument up.)
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I love it, since it would give more prestige to the IC and US titles. I mean the main event for a brand for a month would be for the IC title, cmon that would be huge.
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But feuds would only last on average a month, which isn't good.
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The difference between the indies and the WWE is that the WWE is one company. More often than not in the indies they run different feuds in different promotions, which don't operate as often as the WWE.

Plus it's one title.

(I knew someone would bring that argument up.)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the brands supposed to be seen as "different promotions"? Sure, they may operate longer, but as long as you throw a storyline back in that prevents people from showing up at the other brand's events, you're good.
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I would love to see something like that happen. I would much rather see feuds established heading into a PPV, and then having them work primarily on the other brand because their PPV is coming up next. For example:

Let's just say Batista is WWE World Heavyweight Champion, he faces Triple H at Backlash, giving us a short feud with him for a while, not dragging it out for months and months. We then get Batista vs. Randy Orton heading into Judgment Day. Next is a RAW PPV, with Batista either continuing his feud with Triple H or starting a new program.

Plus it would shake-up the brands a bit more. Say Batista loses the title to Triple H, this could be used to get Batista back on the RAW brand. Triple H then loses to Randy Orton, Triple H is on SmackDown!. You'd have your top superstars' status liquidated, which I think would work really well.

Plus it gives the Intercontinental Championship and United States Championship more credibility. It makes you the top superstar exclusive to a brand.

I also wouldn't mind it if the WWE unified their Tag Team Championships and did something like this.
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Old 01-06-2006, 02:22 PM   #15
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No unifying titles, WWE understands there are alot more who tend to watch RAW and don't follow both shows. It woulden't make sense to alot of people.

We all remember how GREAT the Undisputed Championship was...
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Ive said since day one when they pulled the World Title out of the briefcase that should only have one world champ.

Think about boxing, it sucks when the titles are separated, the only time champions seem legit is when there is only one in the division. Think of the sad state of the Heavyweight division in boxing, does anyone know who is the champ, does anyone care about them?

Splitting the titles is okay to do from time to time, let's say there is a title match and a World Title and a RAW ref calls it one way and the SD ref calls it the other. They split the titles for a few months (RAW say guy A is champ, SD says guy B is) and it leads to a unification match at a big PPV (Mania).

But having two world champions, to me is dumb.

The elevation of the seocndary champion is something that I used to preech here all the time, and I think it would really solidify those championships once again.

This would have been a good year to pull the trigger on the Unification (Batista vs Cena), since neither show has a Batista-HHH program that I can see that people are dying to see.
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i would only agree with it, to give the WWE title new face.
right now it's being carried/looks like total shit.
plus when you're pushing Mark Henry into a world title card,
there's time for some change.

other than that, i still kinda like having two titles.
but i see no reason for two sets of tag belts...
that's just stupid when the tag division isn't THAT expansive anyhow.
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Old 01-07-2006, 01:03 AM   #18
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Then one show would be without a world title feud for at least a month. Not exactly a good idea. No way one guy can keep up two feuds at once for months on end and never have them come together.
Unless the WWE *gasp* actually booked more than one person as a contender at a time...
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Two brands, two titles, that's how it should be.

Let's look at Evolution when Triple H had the title. Randy Orton, Ric Flair, and Batista would all be on Raw. HHH would be on both shows, holding down both rosters, and Evolution wouldn't work out.
Same with JBL and his staff.
And it's bad enough seeing Cena with the title on Raw, but seeing him twice a week!!! No.
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Unless the WWE *gasp* actually booked more than one person as a contender at a time...
Shouldn't the one main championship in a promotion (in this scenario) have ONE feud, not two feuds, each going in the same week? Shouldn't there be one feud with 2, 3, 4, etc people instead of two feuds that never come together?

And what about WrestleMania? Would one show not have the big title on their show for 2-4 months (Rumble to WrestleMania)?
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The WWE has, in the past proven itself to be capable of having multiple viable contenders for a title.
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But could they keep them completely separate and equally as important? I don't think so.

It isn't like there's just one roster, then it would work, but with this there would be two completely different shows and the champion would have to keep two separate feuds up without making the other seem obsolete.
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But could they keep them completely separate and equally as important? I don't think so.
You're right Xero, you're so right.
You see, I watch Raw a lot more than I watch SmackDown. So in my eyes the belt that Cena has *shudders* has more value. The Big Show and Kane are better tag team champions than MNM (well, I'm a mark for Kane, but I still like MNM), the IC title is better than the US, and I think Trish could kick the living hell out of Kash.

HOWEVER
I'm sure there are many people out there who watch SmackDown more often. People who'll read what I just wrote and say "CRAP!" In my eyes every Raw title has more value than the SmackDown titles, but if you watch SmackDown more often (maybe they don't have cable, possibly no internet which means their voices won't be heard as much), then the SmackDown titles will have more value.
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Two brands, two titles, that's how it should be.

Let's look at Evolution when Triple H had the title. Randy Orton, Ric Flair, and Batista would all be on Raw. HHH would be on both shows, holding down both rosters, and Evolution wouldn't work out.
Same with JBL and his staff.
And it's bad enough seeing Cena with the title on Raw, but seeing him twice a week!!! No.
To be honest, having one World Champion with any of those situations would be much more interesting.

Evolution could go with Triple H, and just not be booked. Or you could have had a bunch of SmackDown! guys helping out Triple H when he went to SmackDown!. Mark Jindrak was always rumoured to be in Evolution, he could have been the parallel to Randy Orton. Matt Morgan could have mirrored Batista, etc.

Cena being booed viciously twice a week would send twice the message it currently does to WWE creative. The WWE can sit idly by and say "well at least Batista is popular" or "we'll see what the fans say next week" in regads to Cena's reactions, but if he was getting booed on both shows, with different fans, different channels and in presumingly different situations, there is no ignoring it.

It makes the guy who is World Champion look better, too. When you really consider how long they have been World Champion, Batista & John Cena should both be considered almost legendary by now, but they aren't due to the doubt of the World Championship.

The WWE wouldn't be able to get away with keeping the World Title on Triple H or JBL for excessive amounts of time. Their reigns are never terrible per se, but with one World Title there is no alternative, thus you'd have faces winning the belts more regularly, which is ultimately a good thing, in my opinion.

Have one World Championship, one Tag Team Championship, the Intercontinental Championship, the United States Championship and the Women's Championship and Cruiserweight Championship.
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But could they keep them completely separate and equally as important? I don't think so.
But you don't NEED to do both of those.

That's like asking if Triple H could do the Pedigree wile making a sandwich with his penis. Not every feud has to be both distinct and A-List just to make it work.
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