I think that the WWE isn't as dumb as we all think

**The Naitch** · 01-10-2006, 08:15 PM

They know what it takes to be good. They know what it takes to bring ratings and make competion crumble

Just look at 2000. It was hott back then becauser they had WCW by the balls

But since there's no copmpetion, they don't even care and just DF it because they can. But I'm sure when a real threat comes, they can easily take it up a notch

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Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas

Because he wants them to get bigger, just like WCW did, and when they are at their peak, make his product even better (Bring The Rock back, new and better fueds) and swallow them whole. Why do you think they are doing the dumb shit they are doing? I hope WWE is not just that retarded.

I think they're giving us shit programming (although I don't think it's always shit) on purpose, so that the product doesn't get stale because when we're so used to seeing the product suck, the instant it turns good again, it's like a breath of fresh air, like when Ferret farts

**Destor** · 01-10-2006, 08:19 PM

Easily, its not like they don't have the talent.

**Y3J** · 01-10-2006, 08:21 PM

You're probably right. But it sucks hearing someone else saying it.

They know they don't have to try that hard to keep us watching because there's no alternative.

When WCW was around, even though I hated it, some people actually liked it and they spent so much to bring in the WWE rejects that they also took the fans of the wrestlers.

This pushed WWE into the "golden era" and coincidently, it started going wrong around the invasion period.

In some respects, I wish that WCW was still competing with WWE only so that we would get a decent product

**The Naitch** · 01-10-2006, 08:23 PM

I hope The Rock goes to TNA

**FourFifty** · 01-10-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Naitch

I hope The Rock goes to TNA

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That'll happen once I get in bed with Jessica Alba!

**Kane Knight** · 01-10-2006, 08:23 PM

Then why was their programming down in the shitter before TNA?

**Destor** · 01-10-2006, 08:25 PM

Because there was no threat, clearly. If you have a monopoly there isn't any reason to have an innovative product.

**starfox8500** · 01-10-2006, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Destor

Because there was no threat, clearly. If you have a monopoly there isn't any reason to have an innovative product.

lolz you sound like my Social studies teacher

**Kane Knight** · 01-10-2006, 08:30 PM

Surely there is a reason to keep your ratings up.

**ThruTheWire** · 01-10-2006, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight

Surely there is a reason to keep your ratings up.

Both Raw and SD are the highest rated basic shows (not sporting events) on their stations... thats up enough.

**Kane Knight** · 01-10-2006, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ThruTheWire

Both Raw and SD are the highest rated basic shows (not sporting events) on their stations... thats up enough.

You needed to posst the same thing two ways?

Their ratings were "up enough" to cost them both Thursday nights and Spike TV.

**Destor** · 01-10-2006, 08:32 PM

Not when you're senile.

**Y3J** · 01-10-2006, 08:33 PM

To increase the ratings, they have to work harder. Why would they need to if we have nothing else to watch?

There is no threat, even through the crap we still watch it, doesn't this say something?

**Kane Knight** · 01-10-2006, 08:51 PM

Yeah, but we're not the ones who make them money.

**The Naitch** · 01-10-2006, 09:11 PM

you will get layed pretty soon by her

**The Naitch** · 01-10-2006, 09:12 PM

If he does, I give TNA a year or so to make their product legit enough for Rock to actually consider going there

Hell, Christian is there and Christian is THE ROCK'S FAVORITE WRESTLER!!!!

**Destor** · 01-10-2006, 09:44 PM

cost them spike Tv? What happend there I missed?

**Kane Knight** · 01-10-2006, 09:51 PM

Oh, that's right. They never left spike. It was all a dream.

**Destor** · 01-10-2006, 09:56 PM

I was under the impression they wanted to leave.

**Kane Knight** · 01-10-2006, 10:01 PM

Which is why they tried negotiating and lost?

Damn, I must have missed out on the definition of wanting to leave. Generally, you're not the one who tries to negotiate (Especially when you bring in bargaining chips such as another network).

**Kane Knight** · 01-10-2006, 10:02 PM

At best, it was a case of sour grapes.

"we didn't want to be on your dumb old station anyway."

**Destor** · 01-10-2006, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Destor

What happend there I missed?

Maybe you missed that part of my post. Clearly I was admitting I didn't know the full story and was curious in finding out the full details on the situation.

**Kane Knight** · 01-10-2006, 10:28 PM

Which is why I was correcting you with an illustrated point.

**Destor** · 01-10-2006, 10:31 PM

Ahhh

**Kane Knight** · 01-10-2006, 10:45 PM

It's basically trying to rhetorically prove a logical incongruity by demonstrting what happened vs the logic itself.

Or as I call it, being a dick.

**Favre4Ever** · 01-11-2006, 06:22 AM

The Rock, Austin, Goldberg and Hogan leaving really hurt the company, because they spent so much time building them up that when they were gone, there was no one to replace them. Coincidentle that Brock got rocked to the top after Austin left.

**Pinnacle Charisma** · 01-11-2006, 07:52 AM

Thats crap because Vince has always said since he moved his company into "Sports entertainment" that he is not competing agasnt other wrestling companies he is competing agasnt other forms of entertainment (tv shows)

**Dave Youell** · 01-11-2006, 08:03 AM

Back when there was a decent alternative i used to really enjoy seeing guys who were on one show jump to the other, christ remember when Y2J first hit? That was huge!

Right now there is no wow factor, say AJ jumped, half the crowd wouldn't know who he is, but it's starting to work the other way, say like with Christian, so hopefully, in a few years it will be an even balance

01-10-2006, 08:19 PM	#2
Destor I am the cheese Posts: 51,463	Easily, its not like they don't have the talent.

01-10-2006, 08:21 PM	#3
Y3J Mr. No MITB Posts: 952	You're probably right. But it sucks hearing someone else saying it. They know they don't have to try that hard to keep us watching because there's no alternative. When WCW was around, even though I hated it, some people actually liked it and they spent so much to bring in the WWE rejects that they also took the fans of the wrestlers. This pushed WWE into the "golden era" and coincidently, it started going wrong around the invasion period. In some respects, I wish that WCW was still competing with WWE only so that we would get a decent product

01-10-2006, 08:23 PM	#4
The Naitch RAPTURE READY. Posts: 31,936	I hope The Rock goes to TNA

01-10-2006, 08:23 PM	#6
Kane Knight Ron Paul 4 EVA Posts: 152,467	Then why was their programming down in the shitter before TNA?

01-10-2006, 08:25 PM	#7
Destor I am the cheese Posts: 51,463	Because there was no threat, clearly. If you have a monopoly there isn't any reason to have an innovative product.

01-10-2006, 08:30 PM	#9
Kane Knight Ron Paul 4 EVA Posts: 152,467	Surely there is a reason to keep your ratings up.

01-10-2006, 08:32 PM	#12
Destor I am the cheese Posts: 51,463	Not when you're senile.

01-10-2006, 08:33 PM	#13
Y3J Mr. No MITB Posts: 952	To increase the ratings, they have to work harder. Why would they need to if we have nothing else to watch? There is no threat, even through the crap we still watch it, doesn't this say something?

01-10-2006, 08:51 PM	#14
Kane Knight Ron Paul 4 EVA Posts: 152,467	Yeah, but we're not the ones who make them money.

01-10-2006, 09:11 PM	#15
The Naitch RAPTURE READY. Posts: 31,936	you will get layed pretty soon by her

01-10-2006, 09:12 PM	#16
The Naitch RAPTURE READY. Posts: 31,936	If he does, I give TNA a year or so to make their product legit enough for Rock to actually consider going there Hell, Christian is there and Christian is THE ROCK'S FAVORITE WRESTLER!!!!

01-10-2006, 09:44 PM	#17
Destor I am the cheese Posts: 51,463	cost them spike Tv? What happend there I missed?

01-10-2006, 09:51 PM	#18
Kane Knight Ron Paul 4 EVA Posts: 152,467	Oh, that's right. They never left spike. It was all a dream.

01-10-2006, 09:56 PM	#19
Destor I am the cheese Posts: 51,463	I was under the impression they wanted to leave.

01-10-2006, 10:01 PM	#20
Kane Knight Ron Paul 4 EVA Posts: 152,467	Which is why they tried negotiating and lost? Damn, I must have missed out on the definition of wanting to leave. Generally, you're not the one who tries to negotiate (Especially when you bring in bargaining chips such as another network).

01-10-2006, 10:02 PM	#21
Kane Knight Ron Paul 4 EVA Posts: 152,467	At best, it was a case of sour grapes. "we didn't want to be on your dumb old station anyway."

01-10-2006, 10:28 PM	#23
Kane Knight Ron Paul 4 EVA Posts: 152,467	Which is why I was correcting you with an illustrated point.

01-10-2006, 10:31 PM	#24
Destor I am the cheese Posts: 51,463	Ahhh

01-10-2006, 10:45 PM	#25
Kane Knight Ron Paul 4 EVA Posts: 152,467	It's basically trying to rhetorically prove a logical incongruity by demonstrting what happened vs the logic itself. Or as I call it, being a dick.

01-11-2006, 06:22 AM	#26
Favre4Ever Incoming Text Posts: 2,646	The Rock, Austin, Goldberg and Hogan leaving really hurt the company, because they spent so much time building them up that when they were gone, there was no one to replace them. Coincidentle that Brock got rocked to the top after Austin left.

01-11-2006, 07:52 AM	#27
Pinnacle Charisma Posts: 1,981	Thats crap because Vince has always said since he moved his company into "Sports entertainment" that he is not competing agasnt other wrestling companies he is competing agasnt other forms of entertainment (tv shows)

01-11-2006, 08:03 AM	#28
Dave Youell 1/2 Optimist 1/2 Amazing Posts: 12,427	Back when there was a decent alternative i used to really enjoy seeing guys who were on one show jump to the other, christ remember when Y2J first hit? That was huge! Right now there is no wow factor, say AJ jumped, half the crowd wouldn't know who he is, but it's starting to work the other way, say like with Christian, so hopefully, in a few years it will be an even balance