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Old 03-04-2006, 05:44 AM   #1
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WWE Ultimate X Match?
Not saying they would (injury bullshit), but assuming they wanted to, could the WWE set-up a match similiar to the Ultimate X? I don't think there would be a law against copying a set-up like that.

I was just thinking, throwing some guys into an Ultimate X Match at WrestleMania wouldn't be a bad thing. Gregory Helms vs. Paul London vs. Brian Kendrick vs. Jamie Noble. That match would be fantastic.

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Old 03-04-2006, 06:09 AM   #2
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Do you think perhpas TNA would have trademarked it?

Because if not they are either A. Idiots or B. Stole it from elsewhere, I dont know which lol.
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Old 03-04-2006, 06:39 AM   #3
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Do you think perhpas TNA would have trademarked it?

Because if not they are either A. Idiots or B. Stole it from elsewhere, I dont know which lol.
That's the thing though, is it possible to trademark a match concept? Booking it under the same name, and making money off the exact same concept would be illegal, but if TNA found the money to build a cage with four extra in-built rooms, and had people enter at a specific time intervals and get eliminated would they be in trouble from the WWE?

TNA can do Ladder Matches, Cage Matches, etc. Why can't the WWE do a "Cable Match"? I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know. If it is trademarkable, I'd say TNA would have done it by now.

Maybe part of the WWE's reasoning for not doing the match is because they don't have a name for it? Let's throw ideas out there for them.

The only one I can come up with is "Cruiserweight Crossing"...
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Old 03-04-2006, 06:47 AM   #4
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Old 03-04-2006, 06:50 AM   #5
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They could do it if they wanted. I highly doubt the WWE invented ladder matches, hardcore (no holds barred) matches, cage matches, stretcher matches, etc.
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Old 03-04-2006, 11:39 AM   #6
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Old 03-04-2006, 12:20 PM   #7
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They could make the Ultimate I match.

It would be the same idea as the Ultimate X match, only you get on one of the turnbuckles, go to the center of the ropes, and then go to the center of the ring on the structure.

That would actually be an interesting variation...
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Old 03-04-2006, 12:20 PM   #8
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I sure hope the WWE doesn't copy that match. It's pretty stupid.
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Call it the ultimate lower case t match
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Old 03-04-2006, 01:14 PM   #10
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They could call it the Ultimate Suck match....BECAUSE THATS WHAT IT IS!
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Old 03-04-2006, 02:23 PM   #11
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TNA can trademark the name, but they cannot specifically trademark a wrestling match. Asking if they have is like asking if DC trademarked superheroes who could fly.

While he's on the wrong show and already booked for Mania, I'd love to see Mister Monday Night show up in any match in that vein.
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Old 03-04-2006, 02:24 PM   #12
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They could call it the Ultimate Suck match....BECAUSE THATS WHAT IT IS!
Wouldn't that be Lita v Moolah?
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Old 03-04-2006, 02:25 PM   #13
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I think that they could technically patent the match's structure.
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Old 03-04-2006, 02:26 PM   #14
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Wouldn't that be Lita v Moolah?
No, that'd be the Ultimate Lick match.
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Old 03-04-2006, 02:35 PM   #15
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I think that they could technically patent the match's structure.
No, they can't patent anything in a wrestling match.


A patent is so far off the mark it stuns me it'd be mentioned.

A copyright wouldn't work, as they could only copyright the description, not the actual match. As long as someone used a different description, they could do the same thing verbatim.

A trademark is the closest, but they can only mark the "brand name."
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Old 03-04-2006, 02:36 PM   #16
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No, that'd be the Ultimate Lick match.
Fine, fine...

Wouldn't that be a black hole v the Spirit Squad?
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Old 03-04-2006, 03:05 PM   #17
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Old 03-04-2006, 03:55 PM   #18
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Why is it so far from a patent? You can patent anything, including apparatuses, which is what this would be.

If anything, this is closer to a patent than a trademark.

I'm talking about the actual structure, not the name and rules.
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Old 03-04-2006, 07:01 PM   #19
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Why is it so far from a patent? You can patent anything, including apparatuses, which is what this would be.

If anything, this is closer to a patent than a trademark.

I'm talking about the actual structure, not the name and rules.
You know, it's nice to not be bound by the definitions of others. You are clearly not bound by the same rules the United States Patent and Trademark office uses, and that's cool. I mean, just because they're the ones who define a patent, and do so within the purview of US law, doesn't mean we should stick to it?

Patenting a "structure" doesn't work. You have to take a very loose view of the terminology for it to work that way.

Let's apply some logic here: If the "apparatus" could be patented, why are there no other such patents in pro wrestling, and I mean literally none? You mean to tell me if WWE could patent the Elimination Chamber, they wouldn't?

This does not fit the criteria set forth.
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I sure hope the WWE doesn't copy that match. It's pretty stupid.
I like it. I mean, the WWE already has a Ladder Match taking place at WrestleMania, and they need some way to sowcase the cruiserweights. Give it to them as "their match", and I'm sure they'll take it and run with it.

Or you could get tag teams involved. MNM vs. Paul London & Brian Kendrick vs. The Mexicools in a "Tag Team Turbulence Match" for the WWE Tag Team Championship would be pretty fun.
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WWE could do an ultimate X match, with a different name (Cables Match sounds like something they would think up), but I don't think they ever will.

To do so would be to admit that TNA had a good idea that they didn't think up first.
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Old 03-04-2006, 07:34 PM   #22
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Yeah, because they've never stolen anything from another promotion before.
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WWE could do an ultimate X match, with a different name (Cables Match sounds like something they would think up), but I don't think they ever will.

To do so would be to admit that TNA had a good idea that they didn't think up first.
I could see the WWE taking cheap shots at it with lots of lines like "from the independent scene, making its big time debut", etc. And if they somehow secure on the prize somehow, they can mention how they have the money to keep it from falling apart.
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