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Old 07-06-2006, 10:19 AM   #1
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Please, if you have a heart, go to MLB.com and vote Francisco Liriano for AL Final Vote to be named to the AL All-Star Team. He's currently in second place.

When voting, consider that Liriano has been the best pitcher in baseball the last 2 months. Consider that he is doing it in his rookie year. Consider that he is the only starter in baseball with a sub-2.00 ERA. But most importantly, consider who will take his spot if you choose not to vote:



THIS FUCKING ASSHOLE!

Look into your heart. Don't let A.J. fucking Pierzynski grace the roster of the AL's best. Don't let his stupid fucking manager get his wish and have AJ on the team.

Go and vote. Now. Multiple times.

http://www.mlb.com/

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Old 07-06-2006, 10:21 AM   #2
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You only have till 6 eastern BTW
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Old 07-06-2006, 12:08 PM   #3
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awwww.

Is it going to suck that much to have one of the best catchers in the league in the All Star Game? Better luck for Liriano next year.

AJ - 5/28 .326/.371/.446
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Old 07-06-2006, 12:11 PM   #4
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Yeah i voted for him not long after the last man vote started, went for Nomah in the NL
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Old 07-06-2006, 12:12 PM   #5
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It's going to be AJ and Nomar. And all will be right with the world.

Then someone will drop out of the ASG and then Crede will get the call (should be starting anyway... fucking popularity contest).
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i voted for pronk
So did I...but I'll probably throw in a vote for Liriano just cause.

And LOL @ Pusszynski being "one of the best Catchers in the league." The guy is terrible and a piece of shit to boot.

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I didn't vote Liriano. The kid's awesome, but I want the NL to actually have a fighting chance. Definately didn't vote AJ either. Too many White Sox already as is. I voted Ramon Hernandez, who probably won't even play if he's put on the team.

Besides which, Ozzie should be punished for not taking Liriano to begin with. What the fuck is wrong with him. The only way I could question him further is if he lets Mark Redman play in the game.
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And LOL @ Pusszynski being "one of the best Catchers in the league." The guy is terrible and a piece of shit to boot.
3-run game winning home run anyone?
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lol...okay?
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Old 07-06-2006, 12:32 PM   #11
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lol...okay?
Make all the "Pusszynski" and "he got pwned by Barrett" comments you want... last time I checked... he punked your entire fanbase last weekend.

And cry all you want about him winning the 30th man, he'll be there next Tuesday and he'll play. Simple as that.

We got Pods voted in last year (over Jeter I may add) and we'll get AJ in this year.
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Old 07-06-2006, 12:39 PM   #12
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And cry all you want about him winning the 30th man, he'll be there next Tuesday and he'll play. Simple as that.
Only because Guillen has a HUGE hard on for him...which you obviously do too.
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Old 07-06-2006, 12:43 PM   #13
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Only because Guillen has a HUGE hard on for him...which you obviously do too.
Ozzie didn't pick him to be in the 30th man thing, that was the MLB.
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Yah we know Joey Slugs, tragedy happens and Spodwinklesk getting voted in over Jeter was one of them.
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Yah we know Joey Slugs, tragedy happens and Spodwinklesk getting voted in over Jeter was one of them.
Then New Yorkers should of voted more.
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Then New Yorkers should of voted more.
Yah congrats on your future White Sox All star game trivia question there.
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Then New Yorkers should of voted more.
I think its pretty funny how you were pissed off about it being a "popularity contest" and now you're endorsing it because it went your way.
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I think its pretty funny how you were pissed off about it being a "popularoty contest" and now you're endorsing it because it went your way.
The popularity contest is for the starters.
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What i wanna know is why the hell is home-field advantage still decided by the all-star result?

It's just...insane!
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However you wanna justify it to yourself is cool with me.
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However you wanna justify it to yourself is cool with me.
Pissed that "your" team only has one guy going?
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So Slugs, back to the question at hand here....


Why should A.J. be voted in and not Liriano?
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AJ Pierzynski being one of the top catchers in the game? Outside of his batting average he is merely average.

AJ has 28 RBIs. 16 MLB catchers are above him, three are tied with him. Seven AL catchers are above him.

AJ has five home runs. 22 MLB catchers have more than him, three are tied with him. 13 of those above him are from the AL.

AJ has an OPS of 816. Five MLB catchers have more than him, and ALL FIVE are from the AL.

The pecking order for AL catchers should go as follows:
1. Joe Mauer (MIN) .391 6 43
2. Victor Martinez (CLE) .307 11 56
3. Ramon Hernandez (BAL) .274 15 59
4. Jorge Posada (NYY) .307 11 45
5. Kenji Johjima (SEA) .294 10 41
6. Ivan Rodriguez (DET) .306 7 39
7. Jason Varitek (BOS) .244 9 40
8. AJ Pierzynski (CWS) .326 5 28

AJ doesn't hold water when it comes to being a deserving All Star this year. He is the same as he was on the Twins for so many years, he is a very solid player who hits well late in the lineup, but has relatively nothing to show for it but average. He is not deserving of an All Star bid this year.
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I'm glad your "pecking order" is opinion based.
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So Slugs, back to the question at hand here....


Why should A.J. be voted in and not Liriano?
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AJ's in the lead right now, that alone answers the question.
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How can you justify that AJ is more deserving of the All Star game than Victor Martinez or Ramon Hernandez? A few more hits and about half as many RBIs? The All Star game is already flawed by the voting system, which prevented a lot of deserving guys from making the rosters to begin with. Even if the rosters were set right from the start, Pierzynski still wouldn't be on the team.

Justify why AJ is more deserving than all-but two of the guys I listed and maybe you can change my mind.
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AJ's in the lead right now, that alone answers the question.
So your answer is "because"
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A no nonsense get-it-done (and one of the reasons the pitching staff was so dominant last season) top 5 catcher on the best team in baseball.

That is all I have to say.
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Ivan Rodriguez isn't even in the vote silly
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Tigers may have the best record, but they are 1-5 against the White Sox this year.

As I said, the best team in baseball.
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Slugs, don't you claim to be heavy into sabermetrics? The whole point of sabermetrics was to look at baseball in a different way, different from the traditional attitudes and beliefs held by baseball people. The reason James started writing was because of attitudes like yours. "He's a no nonsense get-it-done guy." What the fuck does that mean? Is there a measure or statistic you use to quantify his lack of nonsense? What does he get done? If "it" refers to getting on base, hitting for extra bases, and creating runs (things you should use to measure a player's value), then there are at least three catchers in the American League who get "it" done better.

Joe Mauer .459 OBP, .544 SLG, 29 XBH
Ramón Hernández .334 OBP, .497 SLG, 35 XBH
Jorge Posada .402 OBP, .489 SLG, 23 XBH
A.J. Pierzynski .371 OBP, .446 SLG, 22 XBH

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and one of the reasons the pitching staff was so dominant last season
So now we're awarding people all-star berths for what they did last season? I'm pretty sure the 2006 All-Star Team is to award those who have been the best players in 2006, not 2005. If A.J. is so great at handling the staff, why does Jon Garland suck so much this year? Even if Pierzynski is so great at handling the staff, that makes him all-star worthy?

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top 5 catcher on the best team in baseball.
Who cares what team he plays on? This is the AL vs. NL, not the White Sox vs. NL (although that's how Ozzie would like it). What team he plays on should not be a factor in deciding if he's all-star worthy because the all-star game is about individuals. Are Scott Kazmir's numbers any less impressive because the Devil Rays are shit? Please.

The ONLY reason you voted for Pierzynski is because he's a White Sox, and you know it.
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Who cares what team he plays on? This is the AL vs. NL, not the White Sox vs. NL (although that's how Ozzie would like it). What team he plays on should not be a factor in deciding if he's all-star worthy because the all-star game is about individuals. Are Scott Kazmir's numbers any less impressive because the Devil Rays are shit? Please.
Don't even give me that "that's how Ozzie would like it" shit. No one bitched and moaned when Torre would do that every year.

But you are right, I am big into Sabermetrics and the only reason I voted for AJ is because he is on the Sox. He's a major pain in the ass, but atleast he's our pain in the ass.
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Don't even give me that "that's how Ozzie would like it" shit. No one bitched and moaned when Torre would do that every year.
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