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Old 07-15-2006, 04:16 PM   #1
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Major Brock Lesnar News (LEsnar is a bitch, but that isn't news)
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Here Comes the Pain - Goodbye Brock Lesnar by Stuart - 15 Jul 2006 - [Comments (88)]
The worst possible scenario has happened, and Simon Inoki is hanging his head in shame today. Due to "problems with a working visa" (well, there's a new one), Brock Lesnar cannot attend Monday's Tsukisamu Green Dome show and New Japan has stripped him of the IWGP Heavyweight Title. For many, this was expected when he first won the belt, but when he kept returning and returning, doubts started to fade. Whether there is any truth to the "working visa" reason I don't know, but the fact is again an overpriced and undertalented primadonna has turned out to be nothing but a problem for New Japan. Simon Inoki posted a formal apology on the official site and gave refundment details (they don't usually do this, but they realize the severity of this incident), but there will be a tournament on Monday to determine a new champion right before the G1. On a personal note, and I try to stay positive (I will always support New Japan, but not everyone will), Simon Inoki should take all the blame for this and instantly be removed as New Japan president (or better yet, resign his post and take responsibility). Lesnar has been Simon's project when opposition in the company has called for him to get the belt off Brock for months now. There was a high chance that could have happened at the Green Dome, but we'll never know. After regaining so much trust this year, New Japan has again taken a step back and again has to restart from scratch in building fan trust. There may come a time, and it could be this one, that it is too late to do that. There is also the question of how this will effect wrestlers. The tournament on Monday has to be done as well as possible in this situation, and the G1 has to be done even better. The 9/1 Budokan show, an Inoki(s) brainstorm, should be axed immediately by Yuke's, and Naoki Sugehayashi or someone equally suitable has to replace Simon as president.

And here is the news on the tournament that New Japan has been scrambling to put together all night. Six wrestlers will take part, so I'm not exactly sure how this will be laid out. As you can see, all they have done is cancelled the six man tag and put five of them in a tournament, with Tanahashi instead of Choshu (he might be moved into another match), so they have managed to avoid changing the card too much. There was a rumour that Nakamura's stay in Japan was insurance in case Lesnar bailed out, but this proves that to be false. However, it is time to start thinking about bringing Nakamura home very soon...

- Hiroshi Tanahashi
- Hiroyoshi Tenzan
- Yuji Nagata
- Giant Bernard
- Akebono
- Travis Tomko

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Why do I have a feeling Lesnar was expected to drop the belt, and he just said fuck it?



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Old 07-15-2006, 06:31 PM   #2
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Wrestlers always have trouble with visas when they are meant to be dropping titles.

Any other time they get to Japan without a hitch.

Strange.
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Lesnar would get his ass handed to him in MMA. SO hopefully, he'll go into it, so we can all have a good laugh at his expsense.
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Lesnar would get his ass handed to him in MMA. SO hopefully, he'll go into it, so we can all have a good laugh at his expsense.
Naw. HE'll sign up, but quit when he doesn't get top seated matches to start.
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lol, I'd pay to watch Lesnar in UFC, since he'd get totally owned.


LMAO Butterbean.
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Lesnar would get his ass handed to him in MMA. SO hopefully, he'll go into it, so we can all have a good laugh at his expsense.

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LMAO Butterbean.

I'll bet that you're both wrong. If they signed him, they would force feed him bums to build his rep. And right now, he couldn't do any wrong than Frank Mir did last week. Lesnar is freakishly strong, has good wrestling, apparently been practising his BJJ alot and private boxing training. He wouldn't walk over any decent names immediately but don't count him out.


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I'll bet that you're both wrong. If they signed him, they would force feed him bums to build his rep. And right now, he couldn't do any wrong than Frank Mir did last week. Lesnar is freakishly strong, has good wrestling, apparently been practising his BJJ alot and private boxing training. He wouldn't walk over any decent names immediately but don't count him out
A. Feeding him bums may get his "rep" up, but it's not going to make him a better fighter persay. Practice will do that. 2, how lond has brock been practicing private boxing and BJJ? Because if he just started, it's going to take time. It's a bit late for him to learn a martial art for the sake of doing MMA. Furthermore, wrestling will help him more than hinder him, but it's not going to save his life. It seems that Lesnar thinks he's going to go in and have big matches, which won't happen, and it does, he'll be destroyed.

Also, from what I've seen, his endurance is hella shitty right now. (apparently he's been getting winded quickly in his NJPW matches)
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He had offers to do MMA before he signed with WWE so I'd imagine he had some experience from then. He has definately been training more since he left there though.
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LOL

So they had the tourny for the title in NJPW today. Apparently the final was Bernard Vs Tanahashi (Tanahashi won, in what was apparently a really good match). But anyway, during them match, Bernard his Tanahashi with the F5, and I guess Tanahashi basically no sold it

Also, apparently Tyson Tomko busted out a swanton bomb in his match.
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Apparently giving a beat is much more difficult than a Swanton.
And yes, Lesnar is a bitch and has been for years. Maybe not a bitch, but a whiny little punk.
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I'll bet that you're both wrong. If they signed him, they would force feed him bums to build his rep. And right now, he couldn't do any wrong than Frank Mir did last week. Lesnar is freakishly strong, has good wrestling, apparently been practising his BJJ alot and private boxing training. He wouldn't walk over any decent names immediately but don't count him out.
Well, I obviously meant having him face a high caliber guy. i.e. Lesnar the main eventer vs some UFC main eventer or something.

I'm sure there are plenty of lesser people he could beat, simply with his strength.
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Well duh. If fucking Lennox Lewis fought Andre Arlovski tomorrow I'd bet on Arlovski. That doesn't make Lewis any less of a fighter though.
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Does anyone have the brackets and match-by-match results for the NJPW tournament?
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1. Takashi Uwano & Taichi Ishikari & Mitsuhide Hirasawa beat Takashi Iizuka & Yujiro & Tetsuya Naito (11:37) when Hirasawa used a chickenwing armlock on Naito.
2. IWGP Heavyweight Title Tournament - Round 1: Akebono beat Hiroyoshi Tenzan (6:55) with a running body press.
3. IWGP Heavyweight Title Tournament - Round 1: Yuji Nagata beat Travis Tomko (7:48) with a backdrop hold.
4. Koji Kanemoto & Negro Casas & Ryusuke Taguchi & Prince Devitt beat Minoru & Jushin Thunder Liger & Jado & Gedo (10:35) when Kanemoto used a Tiger suplex hold on Minoru.
5. Toru Yano & Tomohiro Ishii beat Riki Choshu & Naofumi Yamamoto (10:38) when Yano used the Oni Koroshi on Yamamoto.
6. IWGP Heavyweight Title Tournament - Semi Final: Giant Bernard beat Akebono (4:45) with a horizontal cradle.
7. IWGP Heavyweight Title Tournament - Semi Final: Hiroshi Tanahashi beat Yuji Nagata (13:46) with a ground Cobra Twist.
8. NWA Jr. Heavyweight Title: Tiger Mask (c) beat Wataru Inoue (12:13) with a Tiger suplex hold (2nd defense).
9. IWGP Provisional Tag Team Title: Manabu Nakanishi & Takao Omori ZERO1-MAX beat Shiro Koshinaka & Togi Makabe (c) (15:17) when Nakanishi used the Hercules Cutter on Makabe to become the new champions.
10. IWGP Heavyweight Title: Hiroshi Tanahashi beat Giant Bernard (17:44) with the Sling Blade to become the 45th champion.
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