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Old 08-03-2006, 11:00 AM   #1
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Sorry to go against IWC commandment #3 here guys, but aside from that retarded thumb finisher I been enjoying Umaga a lot more than Samoa Joe lately. It isn't Armando either, I dunno I guess it's cause his gimmick is just over the top. He had a good match with Cena too that the commentators did a good job of putting over (for some reason I liked that line King said about Umaga "never having that look of pain on his face"). I didn't see his match with HBK, but it was HBK in there, I'm pretty sure it was good for a Raw main event. Umaga for WWE Champion!
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Old 08-03-2006, 11:23 AM   #2
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Interesting...I think it is odd how Umaga is billed 100 lbs. heavy than Joe but they appear to be the exact same size, granted I've never seen the 2 side by side.
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Old 08-03-2006, 11:43 AM   #3
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Umaga is pretty good in the ring, but he is no Joe.
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Old 08-03-2006, 11:58 AM   #4
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Interesting...I think it is odd how Umaga is billed 100 lbs. heavy than Joe but they appear to be the exact same size, granted I've never seen the 2 side by side.
Well thats the difference between WWE and other promotions. Christian looks pretty tall in TNA but when he was in WWE, he just looked normal. So Umaga would look quite a bit taller, plus theres always the fact that WWE exaggerates the weights as well.
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Old 08-03-2006, 12:03 PM   #5
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Interesting...I think it is odd how Umaga is billed 100 lbs. heavy than Joe but they appear to be the exact same size, granted I've never seen the 2 side by side.
Joe, despite a "fat" appearance, looks in better shape, though, and fat and muscle weight different amounts. While it's possible it's just WWE's normal hyperbole, it's also possible Joe really does weight significantly less.
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Old 08-03-2006, 12:05 PM   #6
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Umaga is pretty good in the ring, but he is no Joe.
TNA Joe isn't, either.

I like what I've seen of his RoH/Indy stuff, but appreciation for what he can do doesn't excuse how little he has done.

That being said, I'm enjoying neither of them, but I'd lean to Joe, simply because he doesn't have a retarded handler. People don't love Estrada, they love the catchphrase.
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Old 08-03-2006, 12:18 PM   #7
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I have never seen Joe in ROH. Joe in TNA is still better then Umaga.
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Old 08-03-2006, 12:26 PM   #8
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I can't believe the Umaga gimmack is still going on. He'll never be a main eventer, he'll never win gold of any sort other than possibly a tag team. He's basically Kamala of 2006. Not a legitimate threat but pushed like one.

As for Joe. I only occassionally watch TNA and he's nothing to cream my pants over.
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Old 08-03-2006, 12:26 PM   #9
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Lets see Umaga bust out a top rope tope

Also TNA lists Joe at 280, ROH lists him at 270, he looks about 260.
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Old 08-03-2006, 01:02 PM   #10
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i'm into the umaga character cause he is doing decent in ring but i still have to do this
Samoa Joe > Umaga anyday of the week
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I have never seen Joe in ROH. Joe in TNA is still better then Umaga.
Joe in TNA is shit.
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Old 08-03-2006, 01:21 PM   #12
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Old 08-03-2006, 03:37 PM   #13
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Am I the only one who likes Umaga more than Joe?
Maybe it's because I saw this Somoan Submissiom Machine once, and he only used one submission hold, but he strikes me as.... lame. I also don't like his name. Somoa Joe... Whassupwitdat?
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Old 08-03-2006, 06:00 PM   #18
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Am I the only one who likes Umaga more than Joe?
Maybe it's because I saw this Somoan Submissiom Machine once, and he only used one submission hold, but he strikes me as.... lame. I also don't like his name. Somoa Joe... Whassupwitdat?
Yes you're the only one...
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Am I the only one who likes Umaga more than Joe?
Maybe it's because I saw this Somoan Submissiom Machine once, and he only used one submission hold, but he strikes me as.... lame. I also don't like his name. Somoa Joe... Whassupwitdat?
No I actually agree with you. I've only seen Joe in TNA and I also think he's dull. I completely agree with the name as well. It'd be like naming Kurt Angle 'American Kurt'
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Old 08-05-2006, 04:37 PM   #30
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Samoa joe is very overrated, Umaga has a better character than him. WWE did a good job signing Umaga and with his use.

Now what WWE needs to do is fire Khali and get a proper monster for Smackdown.
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Also TNA lists Joe at 280, ROH lists him at 270, he looks about 260.
Wasn't Umaga in 3 Minute Warning in 2002-03? I think I remember them doing some pretty sick moonsaults and big splashes that were impressive for their size. I don't doubt Umaga's ability to pull off a top rope tope. I just don't think it goes with the gimmick.
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Old 08-06-2006, 10:03 AM   #35
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Wasn't Umaga in 3 Minute Warning in 2002-03? I think I remember them doing some pretty sick moonsaults and big splashes that were impressive for their size. I don't doubt Umaga's ability to pull off a top rope tope. I just don't think it goes with the gimmick.
He was Jamal in 3MW
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Old 08-08-2006, 08:34 AM   #36
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Samoa joe is very overrated, Umaga has a better character than him. WWE did a good job signing Umaga and with his use.

Now what WWE needs to do is fire Khali and get a proper monster for Smackdown.

Somoa Joe isnt INNOVATIVE enough for you
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