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Old 10-17-2006, 05:33 PM   #1
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Kurt Angle Conference
I thought everyone would be intrested in reading this

http://www.wrestleview.com/news2006/1161119465.shtml
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Old 10-17-2006, 06:05 PM   #2
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Been said a million times, but I'll say it again.

Kurt's the man. TNA has a new viewer.
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Old 10-17-2006, 06:21 PM   #3
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fuckin awesome.. Angle should keep his words soft n sweet cuz he may have to eat them 1 day.
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Old 10-17-2006, 06:34 PM   #4
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LOL what a fucking idiot. Every time some old WWE guy pops up in TNA they always rag on them. What a bunch of shit.
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- A caller asked Angle what frustrated him in WWE: "Main thing was that I wasn't getting the proper medical care. Wasn't getting enough rest. Basically, I felt like I was being buried into the ground. When I asked for time off, WWE said I was getting it. When that time came, they said, 'we need you because someone else went down.' WWE was in a position where they needed me more this year than ever before. I was being treated very unfairly. I gave my heart and soul and in turn wasn't getting the respect I deserve." Angle mentioned that WWE still kept him on the road to do media appearances and felt that time should be spent to help him heal. "Don't make me go on the road when I don't need to," said Angle.
Bulllllshit.
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Old 10-17-2006, 07:24 PM   #6
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Angle was just mad that he jobbed to Cena (many times)
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Angle was just mad that he jobbed to Cena (many times)
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I really dunno about all of this. I still don't think Angle made the right decision, and still refuse to support his decision. Some of this sounds like a bunch of crap anyways. Angle thinks he is 100% healthy, but in all reality, he can't be! Sure he talks bad about WWE, as we've seen a hundred guys do already when they leave WWE, but this all might come back around.
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:39 PM   #9
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LOL. Angle is a cock.
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Bulllllshit.
I love how he blames WWE for his medical sitch.

Moron. Losing a lot of respect for him.
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:53 PM   #11
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Vince is trying to compete with himself and wants to keep it that way.
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I'm not willing to call bullshit, to be honest. I don't think he's being completely truthful by any means, but there may be elements of truth in this, just as I could easily be convinced that there are elements of mistruth in the WWE's statements, so the jury is out.
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Old 10-17-2006, 11:44 PM   #13
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Elements of truth does not preclude bullshit.
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Bullshit is bullshit no matter if it's a small lump or a big mountain,
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:18 AM   #15
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Oh message to Kurt, just because you can have 5* matches with people, doesn't mean that'll usher in another wrestling boom period. If that was the case, ROH would have a prime time slot on ABC by now.
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Vince told me, 'You aren't getting three months off, you are an Olympic gold medalist. You will rehab on the road. I don't want to hear it, no excuses. You rehab by yourself on the road.'
So they let guys like Benoit, Edge, HBK, Austin, Holly, and other guys who were majorly hurt to take time off to heal, yet they wouldn't let Kurt?

*sniffs*

I just found a big pile of bullshit.
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I love how he blames WWE for his medical sitch.

Moron. Losing a lot of respect for him.
I agree completely. I was a huge fan of his a few months ago. But now, he just seems like a completely different person.

The only part that I will agree that maybe he wanted time, and someone else went out was in January. Batista went out, but Kurt went to SD to become World Champion. I seriously doubt that Kurt begged not to become World Champion to get time off. Of course he would jump on that opportunity.
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Dixie Carter cares more about your family than the business.
That's why TNA will never succeed.

In wrestling you have got to have the asshole factor to be successful.

Look at Bischoff, Heyman, and McMahon. They were all assholes in their own way, they were all successful in their own way.

If Dixie wants TNA to succeed she has to say "Fuck families, TNA is my family."
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I don't think Kurt would have allowed himself to take a few months off for rest. He's too competitive.
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It is his choice to keep going and no one can stop him, but to say the WWE wouldn't let him take time off seems a bit absurb. From all reports, the WWE were the one's who fired him so he could take time off and fix his problem.
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I agree completely. I was a huge fan of his a few months ago. But now, he just seems like a completely different person.

The only part that I will agree that maybe he wanted time, and someone else went out was in January. Batista went out, but Kurt went to SD to become World Champion. I seriously doubt that Kurt begged not to become World Champion to get time off. Of course he would jump on that opportunity.

With a body and family that's falling apart, I wouldn't doubt for half a second that Kurt would have rather gone off the road than won the World Heavyweight Title. But because of his loyalty to the WWE and his own competitive pride, he stayed and helped the company when it desperately needed him.


I mostly agree with everything Kurt's said, even though I'm sure some of it is over-exaggerated because of hurt feelings. But the one thing I definitely agree on is that Kurt Angle deserved a good, long run with the WWE Championship, but instead, he played around Triple H and The Rock during the end of the boom period, and didn't really see WWE Title opportunities until John Cena became champ.

His one WrestleMania main event was to put over Brock Lesnar, who then left the company. I personally believe that a guy like Kurt Angle, who has both the charisma and ability to stand as a credible champion, should have gotten more.


Unfortunately, I really don't think he's going to get it in TNA.
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The WWE let Benoit have a few months off. I don't see why they wouldn't let Angle have some well deserved time off.

I'm not calling this bullshit... I just think certain areas are exaggerated.
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It is his choice to keep going and no one can stop him, but to say the WWE wouldn't let him take time off seems a bit absurb. From all reports, the WWE were the one's who fired him so he could take time off and fix his problem.
Exactly. I almost want to say Kurt sold out to go to TNA, but since they have no money, I'm not sure what to say he did. He says they would'nt give him time off. I'd be willing to bet that he didn't even ask for it. Besides, he was gone for half of the year anyways. He was off from after WM until Judgment Day, almost 2 months later anyways. Then was off again for another few weeks until right before One Night Stand.
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I do agree that Kurt should have carried the company.

But the other side of the argument was that he was pretty beat up and the WWE didn't want to put everything into a guy who who could have gotten seriously injured at any time.

Funny Kurt is still my favorite Kurt. I hope he gets to showcase some of his dorkyness with Christian in TNA.
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Intresting that he said the Eddie didnt die of drugs.


Kurt Angle always will be the man.
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Exactly. I almost want to say Kurt sold out to go to TNA, but since they have no money, I'm not sure what to say he did. He says they would'nt give him time off. I'd be willing to bet that he didn't even ask for it. Besides, he was gone for half of the year anyways. He was off from after WM until Judgment Day, almost 2 months later anyways. Then was off again for another few weeks until right before One Night Stand.
I don't seem to remember Angle taking all that much time off. I seem to remember him having his problems with Orton, then being injured by Mark Henry, only to miss like a week or two and shock everyone by coming back from injury to face Henry ridiculously early.
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He claims he hasn't been non painkillers for 3 years. Interesting, if that's the case what was his suspension for and that he asked for his release and the WWE didn't want to let him go.

Reading all this I'm seriously loosing a lot of respect for Angle he's coming across like a bitter 12 year old. It's kinda sad to be honest. I'm sure there's some truth to it all but the way he's saying everything, the way he claims he basically demanded his release so he could jump ship is rather pathetic.

Kurt Angle: "Jeff Jarrett did a great job as champion... We have the best Writer in Vince Russo"

Now we know he's full of shit.
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I'll say it again. How the fuck do any of you people know what is bullshit? You talk about all this as if you were there!
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He claims he hasn't been non painkillers for 3 years. Interesting, if that's the case what was his suspension for and that he asked for his release and the WWE didn't want to let him go.
Here is your answer. From the Observer and I'm sure its on other sites

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After the completion of today's call, Kurt Angle called us to correct an error he made in answering one of the questions. Kurt was asked by King Jordan of the NY Daily News about injuries he had incurred while working for his former employer. In answering the question, Kurt stated that he had not taken any painkillers in three years. He realized, after the fact, that he began using painkillers three years ago, and has been clean, rather, for eighteen months since the Cena PPV match he referenced (Feb 2005).

Sorry for any confusion this causes, Kurt felt it important to set the record straight.

Thank you all for the overwhelming response to today's call. I apologize to anyone who waited to have a question answered but couldn't due to our time constraints.
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Old 10-18-2006, 07:26 AM   #31
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So then I ask again what was his suspension for.
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So they let guys like Benoit, Edge, HBK, Austin, Holly, and other guys who were majorly hurt to take time off to heal, yet they wouldn't let Kurt?

*sniffs*

I just found a big pile of bullshit.
It all fits into his argument that he was never appreciated in WWE, never given a fair shake, but now that he's in TNA...

...FINALLY the respect he deserves.

No, this is bullshit. Say what you want about Vince's booking, but he's always been good to his prized assets, at least in terms of recovery. I know some of the minor stars have had issues, but the big boys can take a lot more time off.
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So then I ask again what was his suspension for.
Pot.

But the important thing is, he wasn't. On. Painkillers.
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Old 10-18-2006, 09:24 AM   #34
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It all fits into his argument that he was never appreciated in WWE, never given a fair shake, but now that he's in TNA...

...FINALLY the respect he deserves.

No, this is bullshit. Say what you want about Vince's booking, but he's always been good to his prized assets, at least in terms of recovery. I know some of the minor stars have had issues, but the big boys can take a lot more time off.
Even most minor stars got the time off, granted some of them ended up gettign fired during that time off but they still got the time off.
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Even most minor stars got the time off, granted some of them ended up gettign fired during that time off but they still got the time off.
Yes and look at it this way...they got even more time to heal.
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With a body and family that's falling apart, I wouldn't doubt for half a second that Kurt would have rather gone off the road than won the World Heavyweight Title. But because of his loyalty to the WWE and his own competitive pride, he stayed and helped the company when it desperately needed him.
He's a guy who competed in the Olympics with a BROKEN FREAKIN' NECK. If you think he's the kind of guy that would rather rest than compete, your a bigger moron than I thought you were.
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No, this is bullshit. Say what you want about Vince's booking, but he's always been good to his prized assets, at least in terms of recovery. I know some of the minor stars have had issues, but the big boys can take a lot more time off.
I can see where you're coming from KK but Angle has said, and it has always been obvious, that while he was a "prized asset", he was often thrown into stupid angles and used to elevate others. They constantly used him to make Cena look good, they did that stupid 3 minute match thing where the obvious build up was who would beat him. In the last couple years I can't remember an angle where the purpose was to put Angle properly over and make him the top guy.

It was always either HHH, Rock, Austin, Brock or Cena who were going to be the eventual top guy with Angle just as the fall guy who put them over.

Plus he isn't a politician, as he himself says, he is a wrestler, an athlete, and a good man. I don't understand why people are crapping on this guy? Maybe we've just become so immune to HHH, HBK, Austin etc. running the show backstage and getting whatever they want.

Let me remind you of a few things -

HBK treated the business like shit when he was younger. He was involved in screwing Bret and held down so many guys with the Kliq. He is one of the worst backstage politicians and still to this day I doubt he gives many of the young guys the time of day.

HHH is HHH. For two years he held the title which he DID NOT deserve to hold. He fucked us all over by ruining possible credible title runs for RVD, Booker etc. HHH is HHH.

Stone Cold Steve Austin walked out on the business. He shat on the business when he stormed out over a little hissy fit about losing to Brock.

Now Vince would do anything for these guys, ANYTHING. Because they are top, top guys. Moneymakers. But they all treat the business like shit and have some sort of problem with letting us move into the next era in WWE. They won't let go. Look at this whole Austin/Hogan thing. Austin won't wrestle Hogan because of his "principles", Hogan wants to wrestle Austin for the payout which he undoubtedly doesn't need. Which of these two guys cares about wrestling?

When did Angle ever walk out? When did Angle ever refuse to lie down? When to Angle ever refuse to put a young guy over?

If Austin had an ounce of Angle's talent do you think he would use it to make others look good? NO. But this is what Kurt Angle did, he made others look good. But was he ever going to be the biggest draw in the world? Probably not. Just like Bret wasn't the biggest draw ever. There's one little thing they lack, and although they are probably the two best wrestlers - TECHNICALLY - they don't have the X-Factor that Austin, Taker, Rock, HHH have that enables them to draw so well.

So you can talk about how Vince always looked after his prized talents so well. But Angle was not one of them. Sure Vince needed him so badly because without him who else could get him out of shitty situations? Batista gets injured - stick the title on Kurt for a month as a transitional champ. Then have him lose it to Rey FUCKING Mysterio. Easy. Problem + Angle = Problem Solved. Vince used Angle like this because he knew Angle wouldn't kick up a fuss. He went out there every night, did what he was told to do, gave 110% and never said two words about it. Angle never asked for anything from Vince. Vince treated Angle's body like shit and didn't give him time off because HE DIDN'T THINK ANGLE WOULD LEAVE. Why? Because Angle is not a politician.

Now the second Angle comes out and decides - "I've had enough of Vince and his shit, I'm going to ask for something and I'm going to put my family and my health ahead of the business" - you all shit all over him. Instead of this why aren't we embracing a man who cares about this business, wants to see real wrestling on TV, wants to get rid of "ass kissing and strip poker" on wrestling shows, a man who is the best wrestler in the world, a man who wants to see guys like Samoa Joe wrestle for World Titles as opposed to a white rapper. WHY ARE WE PISSING ON ANGLE?

If you ask me he deserves to let off a little steam, and although he's bitter - GIVE HIM A CHANCE! Bret's been doing this for the last ten years and he is still some kinda' God to all you people! Austin says this shit every few months but still seems to have a job at WWE (God knows why?!).

Cut Angle a little slack and just enjoy the fact that there is someone who wants to see wrestling on TV spelt - W-R-E-S-T-L-I-N-G!
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I'll say it again. How the fuck do any of you people know what is bullshit? You talk about all this as if you were there!
I love how the IWC thinks they know everything. Everybody wants to jump on the bandwagon and call bullshit on Kurt Angle and defend Vince. Defend Vince? Are you fucking KIDDING me?
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