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Old 10-20-2006, 09:28 PM   #1
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TNA, what does it need?
Okay, so they have a time slot. They have the telent (Kurt, Christian, 3-D, Jarret (I still like him), and some others). It has the old ass wrestlers. The only diffrent from TNA and WCW is that WCW had a better time slot.

The thing I do not get is, TNA gets no support, they can't compete with WWE at all. What does TNA need to acually compete? Do not say Y2J, they already have the talent on their roster.
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Old 10-20-2006, 09:37 PM   #2
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Less old-timers...and Jarrett has to die.
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Old 10-20-2006, 09:41 PM   #3
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The ring needs more sides.
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Old 10-20-2006, 09:52 PM   #4
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I was actually gonna make this thread.

-primetime (they got it) but with 2 hours
-to tour outside of Orlando
-new entrance way, arena lighting and graphics (basically improved production)
-new title belt designs
-ditch the crappy ring attire and plastic entrance shit
-can they get better announcers?
-continue to push new stars and sign guys (Jericho, Lesnar, Goldberg are out there)
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Old 10-20-2006, 09:56 PM   #5
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- Yes better hours, or more hours, and put the boring soap opera shit at the begining
- Yes, come to Nova Scotia
- Definatly it looks too....bad
- New belts especially the world title
- Yep, except Daniels its classic on him
- yes yes and yes
- Jericho and Lesnar Goldberg
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Old 10-20-2006, 10:07 PM   #6
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Old 10-20-2006, 10:22 PM   #7
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Yeah, they definatly need Kurt Angle, and CM Punk and that would make everyone on TPWW want my old name.
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- New belts especially the world title
Yes, because the NWA Title is absolute rubbish.
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Old 10-21-2006, 01:00 AM   #9
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They need 2 hours and move to Friday Night and go on early and give the Smackdown spoilers away.
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Old 10-21-2006, 01:29 AM   #10
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This is far too big of a question to be answered in a single post. But here goes...

Get a two hour time slot.

Work a deal so Matt Goldberg from UFC pulls a double dutty, becomes the "Voice of Spike" and replaces Mike Tenay.

Get rid of Don West, bring in Kevin Nash.

Add on at least 5 or 6 more rows to the audience, and don't do large pan shots to show just how small the arena is.

Get rid of the two entrance ramps, it looks idiotic.

Define the X-Division stars...let them have personalities.

TNA is taped, it shouldn't be hard to reshoot bad promos.

Coach the wrestlers on how to deliver a good promo.

Let me just say better promos.

WWE focuses their shows on "Entertainment", TNA should become more about the athletic true performers of the world.

The bright colors arn't working. I would like to see TNA take a stab at being darker and more serious about their product.

Here is a HUGE one...give TNA meaning and a soul. So much of TNA currently is "Look at this move! Look at this spot! Look at this!" Put something behind it. TNA has use of the NWA World Heavyweight Championship, that has so much respect and honor in it, make the show be driven by the desire to be the best, not to get the most attention of the night. Have wins and loses mean something. Make every match seem important, and by the way Tenay, that doesn't mean saying "The Championship Commity" or Jim Cornette is paying close attention, make the audience see these guys are struggling to climb up the ladder to glory.

Never from this moment on, never mention WWE again. They product is terrible? Everyone cuts promos on how it sucks...than why talk about it still? You have established people in TNA hate WWE and the Orlando Smarks hate WWE...no need to beat the already beaten dead horse.

Not all heels need to be cocky pricks.

Move Jeff Jarrett out of the Main Event.

Not all faces need to be intense single minded cheap poppers.

TNA needs to find "Their man." The one guy who all other wrestlers are measured against. The face of the company. The problem TNA has is they change it every other month. Sting, Styles, Raven, Rhyno, Christian, Joe, Angle...they need to have that one man who is the embodiment of TNA. The Hogan/Austin/Goldberg/Flair type if you will...and they need to stick with it.

Too many one time World Champs. They win it, they lose it, then they are fed to Abyss or whoever...

It's ok to have a fued last longer then 2 or 3 months.

I know I harped on this earlier, but promos...in TNA, they all sound similar. And if someone just can't work a stick, have them speak in body language.

I am sure there is more, but I am kind of tired and don't feel like spending all night on this...
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Old 10-21-2006, 01:58 AM   #11
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Old 10-21-2006, 01:59 AM   #12
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I can sum up TNA's woes with one thing they lack: Direction.

TNA has one thing it doesn't need, though: Jeff Jarrett.
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Old 10-21-2006, 02:27 AM   #14
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I agree with all of this stuff.
I think they should bring in a better announce team like the guy from UFC or someone whos a good play by play and then for color.....Piper? Bret? or someone whos a former personality.
If they're going to have a commissioner/gm personality, it should be better than Jim Cornette, preferably an ex-wrestler.

I cant stress enough tho, the major thing is continuing to put out a good product, but thats not gonna do it all. Production and direction: new entrance way, lighting, graphics, maybe even a logo
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Old 10-21-2006, 04:47 AM   #15
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Another suggestion, (which should only come after the extension of time slot and diversification of their talent) is a secondary belt. The X-Division belt is great, but its a cruiserweight like title. A secondary belt ala the IC, US, and ECW TV belts. This could be used to give some meaning to the upper mid card. Guys like Jarret, Christian, Killings and Steiner could hold it while not being pushed in the world title scene. This way the world title belt won't change hands so much and to so many different guys.
It could also be a breeding ground to push future champions (Daniels and Xdivision guys, new comers, big-men who arent over yet) similar to how the IC and US belts have been used.
How about, the North American Title, TNA National Title or the TNA TV title.
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Old 10-21-2006, 12:16 PM   #16
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Writers, Announcers, Legit Main Event, Off-Screen Characters that aren't "over southern", Stop sucking off the Mid Card, Believeable Main Eventers under 35 (Note: Joe and Styles don't count).
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1. Keep them away from the whole "let's have every ex-WWE employee bash the company" mentality.

2. STORYLINES - They, like the WWE, NEED to find something that will draw positive attention to the promotion. Find something that will draw in casual fans and keep them interested week after week. And then the hardcore fans who aren't sold on TNA yet will start to pay attention.

3. Develop personalities - They can't have X wrestler face Y wrestler every week. If someone doesn't have good mic skills, put them with a manager that does. Find people in the indys if they have to. I'm sure there are plenty of good talkers out there. They just need characteristics that can make me distinguish between the lower card workers. For example it took me to realize that Jay Lethal is black.

4. Two Hours - The only way they can develop proper storylines and characters is by being given an extra hour to work with.

5. House shows - Have frequent house shows (twice a week?), that will expand their fanbase. I know for a fact that people will go to a wrestling show even if they really aren't familiar with the promotion (families mostly). You may not have sellouts every night, but that's why you have good marketing people. They book places where they think they can sell the most at. I think what they did to the Toledo house show was bad business (they canceled that show). You don't cancel a show a week or so before the event by saying "We want to focus our attention to the Detroit area." That turns off fans or potential fans in that area because that makes them feel like they don't care about them.
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Old 10-21-2006, 08:21 PM   #20
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I really think they need more time. Two hours would be great, but I'd also like to see them get another night. Kind of like how RAW and SmackDown! used to be in the Attitude era. That way they can establish their lower card guys, as well as their abundance of main event players.

Push guys based on their talent. Make it the true alternative to the WWE's style of booking. Jay Lethal would never get above the Cruiserweight Division in the WWE. In TNA, he should be able to feud with Samoa Joe. Jeff Jarrett isn't as bad as everyone says he is, but he shouldn't be given the NWA Title again.

Some older guys could easily be moved off, and put into backstage roles, or simply released. Kip James and BG James come to mind. I used to be a huge fan of Billy Gunn, but this James Gang tag team isn't setting the world on fire. Have Kip work house shows, and maybe become a road agent or something. Raven, in particular, could have a lot of knowledge to help train the next wave of TNA wrestlers. They could easily open a developmental school in Orlando, or something.

Part of me thinks they should have a mid-card title. They arguably don't need one, but guys like Bobby Roode and Eric Young are finding it hard to go anywhere meaningful, as they aren't NWA Title contenders, and they don't really fit the X-Division. A mid-card title would also give guys like Abyss something to hold, so he doesn't feel like shit for being jobbed out whenever he's put in a main event. AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels would be able to help establish the new division.

Kevin Nash should replace Don West as colour commentator. I feel the only reason they've kept Don West is out of loyalty. They need to shake that, and just release their dead weight. He's better than he was in the beginning, but if there are better commentators out there, use them. Mike Tenay is fine, but if someone better comes along, go for it. Maybe West could just do commentary on Xplosion, or something?

One idea I like, is having wrestlers do colour commentary on a rotation basis. One week, have Alex Shelley sit next to Tenay, then the next have AJ Styles sit-in. This can be used on Xplosion if they can get Nash to do colour. It would help the fans connect with the wrestler, and just feel closer to them. It probably wouldn't substitute for writing and developing characters for the X-Division guys, but it could get people more invested in them, and it would certainly help with their promo skills, and what-not.

So yeah, a quick summary:
-Two two-hour shows every week
-Become more like ROH, and less like WWE
-A new mid-card title (if/when more time is allowed)
-Better colour commentators
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I thought they get two hours when they move to Prime time
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Old 10-21-2006, 11:15 PM   #22
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Old 10-21-2006, 11:40 PM   #23
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When is the move to prime time?
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Old 10-21-2006, 11:50 PM   #24
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Old 10-22-2006, 12:01 AM   #25
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Old 10-22-2006, 12:07 AM   #26
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- Yes better hours, or more hours, and put the boring soap opera shit at the begining
- Yes, come to Nova Scotia
- Definatly it looks too....bad
- New belts especially the world title
- Yep, except Daniels its classic on him
- yes yes and yes
- Jericho and Lesnar Goldberg
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Old 10-22-2006, 12:30 AM   #27
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K, I want to hump Alenoid, KoOS and Mr. A right now. They basically covered what's wrong with TNA these days.
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Old 10-22-2006, 11:07 AM   #28
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More time, and get Jeff Jarrett off TV. The latter of the two needs to happen ASAP.
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Old 10-22-2006, 04:09 PM   #29
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I think they get two hours on their primetime debut but then it goes back to 1 hour.
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Old 10-22-2006, 04:13 PM   #30
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I think they were going to get two hours and then Spike changed their mind...dunno.
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Old 10-22-2006, 04:17 PM   #31
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There was some miscommunication by TNA's part to the fans. The debut on Prime Time show is going to be two hours, but after that it continues with the one hour slot. That was always the plan, however TNA's words lead to a lot of fans thinking there would be a new weekly two hour slot.
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Old 10-22-2006, 04:18 PM   #32
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Makes more sense...
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For drawing power yes, but for matches ugghhh.
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:39 AM   #34
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WWE and WCW were able to create new match atmospheres of a grand scale like Hell in a Cell, Royal Rumble, Wargames, Elimination chamber, TLC, and other gimmicky things like buried alive and the inferno match. These matches were able to sell ppvs themselves. I think TNA has created some cool things but they need to make some big events. Easier said than done today when they've thought of just about everything but I'm sure theres something they can think up. I also think they should make steps to have their own identity with annual events. WWE did this with the rumble, survivor series and of course Mania. WCW did it on a lesser but similar level with Wargames and Starrcade.

I think King of the Mountain is cool but they should have some serious regular ladder matches. New is cool, but you can't beat the basic idea of a ladder match (my favorite type of match) and they have so much talent in their locker room that could put on classics.
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Old 10-24-2006, 11:36 AM   #35
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1: If you want to be successful, you'll have to become more mainstream. If the world wants to see more ROH style wrestling, they'd all quit watching WWE and seek out ROH. That being said, they shouldn't start giving us an endless supply of face squash matches and no-contest finishes either. While WCW was winning the war, they were giving us some very good matches from guys like Benoit, Guerrero, Malenko, etc, but that wasn't what brought the masses to the table. Reel them in with the WWE stuff, keep their attention with the ROH stuff.

2: People thought that having two competing shows on one night would kill wrestling. Now, neither Bischoff nor McMahon would dare say that they didn't benefit from the Monday Night Wars. Both shows each got more viewers than either did before the Wars started. I honestly think that having TNA and WWE kindly splitting the week is going to split the audience more than their competing on the same night. No casual fan is going to watch wrestling four nights a week. Two nights seems to work out ok, but nobody has time for four. In that situation, the littlest guy is gonna get bumped out. Lots of casual fans and marks don't even know that TNA exists. So if you're sick of wrestling after watching RAW, Smackdown, and ECW, each of which boost each other up and keep you up with ongoing storylines in case you miss an episode of one, you're not going to want to bother with watching a fourth little guy that you have no idea what storylines they're doing.

3: Stop trying to be the next ECW. When the crowd starts their "innovative" chants, including "TNA! TNA! TNA!" every time a guy gets put through a table, I want to throw something at the tv. Get it through your head, TNA fans, nobody's jumped on your newest bandwagon yet. Keep it up and nobody ever will. Disclaimer: I haven't watched in a long time because I wanted to puke the last time I had to endure the stupidity of TNA's fans. If they've wisened up since then, everything I've just said is null and void.

4: Get Ted Turner to finance you with a rubber stamp.

5: Get rid of the old guys. If TNA has trouble with this, they can follow these 4 easy steps. Step 1: Have a meeting with your roster. Step 2: Ask, "Anyone who was ever in a main event match in WCW, raise your hand." Step 3: Ask, "Of those of you whose hands are raised, keep them up of you had any responsibility in a wrestling company failing or nearly failing." This should thin out the crowd a bit. IE, Scott Steiner for his feud with HHH in 2002, and Kevin Nash for being Kevin Nash. Step 4: Fire those individuals with their hands raised if their name begins with a Scott St- and ends with -einer.
Disclaimer: Last time I watched TNA, Steiner was a main eventer, which he shouldn't be. He might not be anymore, but still, having him on the payroll is having one too many Scott Steiners on the payroll.

6: Should all else fail, look up "success" in the dictionary. Read the definitions, then make yourself as much like those definitions as possible.
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Old 10-24-2006, 12:28 PM   #36
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Bigger drawing 'stars' on the roster. And by that I mean guys that can also bring it in the ring, i.e. Kurt Angle. He is a good place to start but you cant bank your entire future on him. Christian is another good place to start, can he carry the organization? Absolutely not, thats why you need a better line up altogether. Honestly, the Sting vs. Jarrett thing has been somewhat acceptable but 'somewhat acceptable' cant be where you set the bar for your main event. Jericho would be a big addition, as would alot of upper mid card guys from the WWE. Anyway, they need more than just two or three guys that they expect to suddenly launch them to prominence.
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Old 10-24-2006, 12:29 PM   #37
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And it wouldn't hurt if the crowd turned it down a bit. They're TOO amped up for every little thing that happens. Its as if they want TNA to be big time but still have the atmosphere of a cult indy group or something and it doesnt work that way, at least not if you try and force it like a TNA crowd often does.
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Old 10-24-2006, 08:25 PM   #38
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Old 10-24-2006, 08:33 PM   #39
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They need a primetime and 2 hour timeslot but it will still take them a long time to establish themselves as serious competition.
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Old 10-29-2006, 09:31 PM   #40
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For starters, they need more solid sponsorship. Not this shit where they're on FSN one minute, then Spike TV the next. They need another show than just Impact! to make just that on their viewship, plus they need more marketability. ........

Figgahead AJ Pierzynski, a baseball player, going on Cold Pizza to get owned by John Cena a pr campaign don't make. They need to get themselves out there more and stop relying on people remembering Jeff Jarrett's name and immediately tying it to the brand in order to enhance their recognition factor.
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