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Old 12-20-2006, 11:31 AM   #1
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Possible plans for Wrestlemania
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the following is an early idea of what the card for WrestleMania 23 on April 1, 2007 will look like next year: John Cena vs. Triple H for the WWE Title, Batista vs. The Undertaker for the World Heavyweight Title, Bobby Lashley vs. Rob Van Dam or CM Punk for the ECW Title and Hulk Hogan vs. The Big Show. Of course, plans can change at any time, but these are believed to be the early ideas for the top four matches (possibly more down the line) for WrestleMania 23.

John Cena vs. Triple H is said to be a tentative plan at the moment as there is no plan to turn either heel. It is possible that someone like Randy Orton could be put into a mix since the WWE isn't very hot on a babyface vs. babyface main event at WrestleMania. But as of now, there is no plan to have John Cena lose the WWE Title heading into WrestleMania (although that was the same plan last year and that changed quickly when the WWE did a quick feud between Edge and Cena for the title).

As for Batista and The Undertaker, the idea is to have Batista put his title on the line against Undertaker's winning streak at WrestleMania. Another co-main event if everything goes to plan is Hulk Hogan vs. The Big Show. Big Show recently turned down a five-year, seven-figure-per-year deal to stay with WWE, but has stated he is open to returning for one more match.

In regards to the ECW Title match, the original pitch by Paul Heyman was to have a heel Bobby Lashley defend the title against a babyface Rob Van Dam. McMahon wanted the direct opposite to take place as he preferred to have Lashley as the babyface and RVD as the heel, something Heyman was strongly against and one of the main reasons for his departure from the company recently, among other things. Given the ECW roster, it is possible they could throw other names into a big ECW Title match involving CM Punk, Hardcore Holly, Test and others.

Looking at this early lineup, it still leaves off many names from both the Raw and Smackdown sides including Shawn Michaels, Edge, Randy Orton, King Booker, Chris Benoit, Kane, Finlay and many others. Getting Mr. Kennedy into a big WrestleMania program is also a top priority for the company as he looks to be pushed heavily throughout 2007, with one idea being pitched already of having JBL come out of retirement to face him. Either way, we will continue to follow this situation as it develops.

Steve Austin will also have a major role in WrestleMania 23 although WWE has given up on trying to get him to wrestle another match. credit: PWTorch


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Old 12-20-2006, 11:36 AM   #2
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The Taker/Batista match is a double-edged sword. I don't want Taker's streak to end (ESPECIALLY to Batista), but I really don't want the title on him either. I've heard that the plan is for Batista to go over, and Batista is in no way worthy of ending Taker's streak.
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Old 12-20-2006, 11:39 AM   #3
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Lashley face and RVD heel? Vince really has lost it...
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Old 12-20-2006, 11:41 AM   #4
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That lineup does not exactly excite me. Hogan/Big Show will be a train wreck, and we just saw Cena/HHH last year.
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Lashley face and RVD heel? Vince really has lost it...
It doesn't make sense in the short run, but considering that it seems that Vince is high on Lashley and wants him to be the next big face I understand WHY he's doing it.
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It doesn't make sense in the short run, but considering that it seems that Vince is high on Lashley and wants him to be the next big face I understand WHY he's doing it.

Vince may be big on Lashley, but the fans aren't, and that's what Vince doesn't get these days. It's all about what HE wants, not the fans. And he wonders why ratings are so low? Hmmm...
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Old 12-20-2006, 12:45 PM   #7
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Im all for Taker/Batista as long as Taker wins. HHH/Cena isn't a great idea.
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HHH/Cena/Orton would make more sense. Put Edge in the money in the bank match.
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Old 12-20-2006, 12:53 PM   #9
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Heel Cena vs babyface HHH. CMON
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So HHH or Taker will win the Rumble then?
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Old 12-20-2006, 12:54 PM   #11
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No HHH/Cena at Wrestlemania again. At least throw Orton into the mix. And maybe have Cena lose the fucking title.

I really dislike the Taker/Batista match. I definitely don't want to see the title on Undertaker, but his streak is something that I don't feel should be ended.

I hope that they keep it Lashley/RVD, no matter who is the heel/face. Stick Punk into the MITB.
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No don't put Edge in the money in bank. Been there, won that...2 years ago. He needs to be in something high profile.

Triple H vs Cena vs Orton vs Edge

Shawn Michaels vs Ken Kennedy
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It'd be nice if they could keep Rated RKO together longer than six months, though. So why have Edge and Orton facing each other? Just put Edge and Shawn Michaels in a match against each other. I bet that they could put on a damn good show.
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RVD vs Lashley (heel) is the best idea for ECW.

Punk should either be in the MITB match, or wrestle someone more established than him.
Wouldnt be bad if ECW started a tournament for the TV title sometime in early 07 and had Punk go to the finals against someone else at mania. (I know I've been pushing the TV title on these boards a lot)
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Old 12-20-2006, 01:01 PM   #15
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Vince might be making a challenge to himself to topple Mania IX as worst ever.
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Rated RKO is just the two top heels paired together for the purposes of one fued with DX, to help put them over further.

They won't stay together much longer, and they shouldn't because its the company's top two heels.
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Fuck that. Stick Dykstra with them, and start a stable. We could use a solid stable these days. So what if they're the top two heels? That's all the more reason to stick them together. They can stir up shit as a unit. Sure, there would eventually be a conflict over the WWE Title, but that doesn't have to be for a while.
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Vince might be making a challenge to himself to topple Mania IX as worst ever.
I've been worrying for a while now that this wrestlemania is doomed.
There's no logical matchups for the main event really. Someone is inevitably left out, something is rehashed, or its just flat out boring in all possible scenarios.

I think they messed up by booking the Cena/Edge title fued in the summer instead of letting Edge run with the belt for a while. That way they could have saved that rivalry for a Wrestlemania program.
Not that I think its the best match but its their top two young stars who have great chemistry and it would have been something fresh.
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The only way to save this years WM is to end the roster split. Seriously.
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So HHH or Taker will win the Rumble then?
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Vince might be making a challenge to himself to topple Mania IX as worst ever.
Balboa/Hogan would do it.
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Heel Cena vs babyface HHH. CMON
I just don't understand why they just don't turn him heel. Are they afraid that if they turn him, he will be cheered?
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Cena should be the guy ending Taker's streak as a heel. I think it could be an awesome program if done right.
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The only way to save this years WM is to end the roster split. Seriously.
I agree. I actually got kind of a sense of this happening a few weeks ago but it didn't pan out. I saw the Batista Cena pairing as a way to turn Bats heel and fued with Cena in a title for title program leading up to mania.

If you ended the brand spllit you could really do a lot with interpromotion. Granted you dont want to overdo the crossfueds and ditch existing or foreshadowed ones. But there's a lot of possibilites to choose from:

DX vs Brothers of Destruction

Cena vs Batista

Batista vs Edge

Batista vs Orton

Edge vs Benoit

Hardys vs London and Kendrick

Kennedy vs Michaels (other top Raw names)

Rey Mysterio vs Jeff Hardy
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Diesel, I would assume that Taker will win it.

I would also assume that HHH gets in after winning a fatal four way between himself, HBK and Rated RKO.

This is how I would setup Wrestlemania.

A HEEL CENA VS A FACE HHH

SHAWN MICHAELS VS EDGE

ORTON VS KEN KENNEDY VS NITRO VS FINLAY VS KANE VS KENNY- MITB MATCH

CARLITO VS CHRIS MASTERS FOR THE IC TITLE

THE HARDYS VS MNM VS WGTT VS KENDRICK AND LONDON...FATAL FOUR WAY LADDER MATCH TO UNIFY THE WWE TAG TITLES. WINNING BRAND KEEPS THE BELTS.

TAKER VS BATISTA

LASHLEY VS CM PUNK

BIG SHOW VS HOGAN

UMAGA HAS AN OPEN CHALLENGE WHICH IS ACCEPTED BY THE GREAT KHALI.

SABU VS TEST VS TOMMY DREAMER VS KEVIN THORN VS BALLS MAHONEY VS RVD...6 MAN CHALLENGE FOR THE ECW TV TITLE WITH HARDCORE RULES...

RIC FLAIR VS AN UP AND COMER
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Old 12-20-2006, 01:34 PM   #26
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Keep in mind Foley is planned to be on the card, against Vince or Nitro. Preferrably Nitro.
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Diesel, I would assume that Taker will win it.

I would also assume that HHH gets in after winning a fatal four way between himself, HBK and Rated RKO.

This is how I would setup Wrestlemania.

A HEEL CENA VS A FACE HHH

SHAWN MICHAELS VS EDGE

ORTON VS KEN KENNEDY VS NITRO VS FINLAY VS KANE VS KENNY- MITB MATCH

CARLITO VS CHRIS MASTERS FOR THE IC TITLE

THE HARDYS VS MNM VS WGTT VS KENDRICK AND LONDON...FATAL FOUR WAY LADDER MATCH TO UNIFY THE WWE TAG TITLES. WINNING BRAND KEEPS THE BELTS.

TAKER VS BATISTA

LASHLEY VS CM PUNK

BIG SHOW VS HOGAN

UMAGA HAS AN OPEN CHALLENGE WHICH IS ACCEPTED BY THE GREAT KHALI.

SABU VS TEST VS TOMMY DREAMER VS KEVIN THORN VS BALLS MAHONEY VS RVD...6 MAN CHALLENGE FOR THE ECW TV TITLE WITH HARDCORE RULES...

RIC FLAIR VS AN UP AND COMER
No offence but I wouln't buy that.
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Yeah if Orton does'nt win the Rumble, have him win MITB.
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No offence but I wouln't buy that.
I'm going by storylines right now, not how I would want it in my mind
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I'm predicting Rey Mysterio will be a suprise entrant in the MITB, and win.
Unless of course he returns soon enough before to do a program, or waits until the weeks after.
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Old 12-20-2006, 03:08 PM   #31
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By the looks of it, it seems that this year's WrestleMania is MAKE IT OR BREAK IT!!!
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What a terrible terrible main event line-up that would be. Batista's 2nd successive main event, Cena's 3rd, and Bobby Lashley? Not one of them deserve to be there.

I thought RVD was leaving soon, or does his contract run out after Mania? If it does, seeing Little Voice crush him won't make me buy it. Cena/Haitch won't make me buy it either.

I guess we'll see Edge vs Orton at Mania then, perhaps in a double heel match like Benoit/Angle was.

God, I can't even be bothered to write about it, it's boring me already.
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not to mention Triple H's 6th main event in a row
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And just how in the hell is Vince planning on turning RVD heel? Have him turn on the fans? HOW? Heel behavior is not enough to turn RVD heel, because the fans cheer him no matter what...especially if he turns on Lashley because noone gives two fucks about him. The only way I see is for him to turn on the fans, but that would just make him look like a total retard given the common knowledge of his drug bust.

Unless.......during a Lashley/CM Punk match, RVD jumps both of them and bloodies them to a pulp with a chair...mostly Punk. Then let him cut a similar promo to his ECW days.

"Rob Van Dam is now worth MORE MONEY HERE and Rob Van Dam is now worth MORE MONEY ELSEWHERE.....because I'm DYING to work Thursday's again!"

THEN BRING BACK FONZIE!
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RVD couldn't be a heel now unless he had Heyman with him as a manager. He even kind of did in the summer and it didnt stop him from still getting face heat.
Lashley however could easily be a heel. VInce wants Lashley to be face because he wants Lashley to go over and bury RVD.
Is it possible that Lashley RVD will be RVDs last match in WWE? Damn I wish it would be punk.
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John Cena w/ K-fed in his corner vs. Triple H (Shawn Michaels as Special Guest Referee)

Hulk Hogan vs. The Big Show

World Heavyweight Championship
Batista vs. The Undertaker

the rest is not important
Also what is the status on Rey Mysterio? If he can make it back in time, he could face a heel CM Punk
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Is it possible that Lashley RVD will be RVDs last match in WWE?
Well, RVD jumping ship to TNA after getting burried by Lashley on WWE's biggest stage would make no sense for him in a business sense. Not exactly coming to TNA with any momentum, know what I mean. Seeing as how his contract is up early next year, I would be willing to bet that if he does go to TNA it will be before Mania. (But I don't have a crystal ball, so who knows.)

Man, WWE is missing the boat SO BAD by not running an RVD/Punk program. Fucking idiots. The story line practically wrote it's self and they STILL didn't do it. Noone really is watching ECW now, so why not have RVD win the belt from Big Show instead of Lashley? Yeah, he's in the doghouse, but I bet RVD with the ECW title draws higher ratings than Lashley. Vince's stubbornness is hurting his business. Even if WWE/Vince didn't want RVD to have the title long term, it would have put Punk over way more as a face to do an extended program with RVD to win the belt instead of Lashley IMO. There's nothing going on in ECW now anyway, so they could have slowly built the RVD/Punk feud for months leading up to Mania and given fans a reason to tune into the show on Tuesday's. Draw them into a decent storyline instead of throwing random shit every week at a "Monster" ECW champ that noone cares about and hope it sticks. IT'S NOT STICKING IDIOTS, CHECK THE RATINGS!

RVD vs. Punk at Mania in a Ladder Match for the ECW Title =

Lashley vs. anyone = me not giving a flying rats ass.

If you look at all three Brands right now, there's basically the same type of champion. Big muscle guys with limited in ring ability, thus putting on boring ass matches 9/10 times unless the heel is credible enough to make it a match the fans actually care about. Plus, all 3 champs are being rammed down peoples throats and aren't even 100% over as faces. People boo Cena, the crowd seems to have significantly lost support for Batista and Lashley in ECW speaks for itself.
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If RVD doesn't re-sign, then I have more chance of being in the ECW 'main event' then he does.

Taker/Dancing Dave will just be awful. Simply awful. I've still not seen any evidence that Batista is a good enough worker, and although Taker is, the chances are that he'll hardly wrestle in the build up to it.

Cena/HHH, what spin (see what I did there?) could they put on it this time. Do they honestly, really truely believe that fans will view this match as face vs face. Cena against a 'DX' Trips wuld be booed out of the damn building. It's as simple as that. The one single saving grace is that it saves us from Orton/Cena.

What else is there? Edge/Michaels - done it. Michaels/Orton? Might be interesting.

And Kennedy vs the unretiring JBL? He's hardly the 'legend' required to put over Kennedy. Kennedy/Flair could be good.

All in all, I don't honestly think Vince knows what the fuck to do.
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I'd kinda rather get shot in the nads with a pellet gun than watch that
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