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Old 01-19-2007, 05:39 PM   #1
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Who is the Undisputed GOAT? (Greatest of all-time)
OVERALL: Who is the Greatest of all-time

Things to consider:

-Household name?
-Popularity
-Coolness factor
-Drawing power
-Crossover appeal
-How good of a worker he is/Putting people over
-Wrestling ability
-Mic work
-Accomplishments (Titles held)
-Backstage presence
-Stage presence
-Good heel?
-Good babyface?
-Consistency (ie being able to maintain a consisted career. High vs. low points in career)
etc


Pick one. Don't give me this top 5 or top 3 bullshit. If you do, I'm giving you neg reps for life.

Yup, here's my pick:



(The dude on the left)


ps- legend will be making fun of me for this





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Old 01-19-2007, 05:42 PM   #2
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Old 01-19-2007, 05:43 PM   #3
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Old 01-19-2007, 05:45 PM   #4
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Old 01-19-2007, 05:50 PM   #5
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Old 01-19-2007, 05:51 PM   #6
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Old 01-19-2007, 06:14 PM   #14
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Old 01-19-2007, 07:11 PM   #19
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Old 01-19-2007, 07:34 PM   #20
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Old 01-19-2007, 07:51 PM   #21
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Bret drew well enough and he was larger than pretty much anybody worldwide.

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Austin is close, but he doesnt have the longevity that hart had.

Hogan sucked in too many categories.

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Old 01-19-2007, 08:38 PM   #24
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Old 01-19-2007, 08:43 PM   #25
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Old 01-19-2007, 09:45 PM   #31
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You got me.

Outside of Hogan and Austin, in solely america, nobody drew singally speaking. It takes a good company to draw.

Basically, the drawing shit is not a proper gauge for anything.
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Basically, the drawing shit is not a proper gauge for anything.
I have thought this for a while. The only thing that can relatively show whether someone "drew" (or in this case, made money) is merchandising, and I suppose to a much lesser extent quarter-hour ratings.
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Old 01-19-2007, 10:46 PM   #33
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:06 PM   #34
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My vote: Rock, based on that criteria.

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I'm going to have to say there is no Undisputed answer. It's between Rock, Austin, Hogan. They all score differently in the different criteria. Some of the criteria doesn't even apply to them (like Hogan and wrestling ability). It doesn't really matter. Those 3 are the Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit of Professional Wrestling.

Others like Bret, Shawn and Flair are legends and may be better in ring but it doesn't really change the fact that Austin, Rock, Hogan are the biggest household names and drawing gods.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:07 PM   #35
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The Rock. No Contest.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:10 PM   #36
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I agree that austin, rock and hogan where bigger draws than the rest, but they fall short in many of the other critera.

I think you have to go with flair, followed by micheals and hart.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:19 PM   #37
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I hate to say it, but Hogan. Just for the fact that whether you've watched wrestling or not, you know who he is. In-ring skills be damned, he did the most for wrestling on a mainstream level. Austin and The Rock are right there behind him, but he's the man who got the ball rolling.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:23 PM   #38
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Yes but look at all that criteria. I think Austin and Hogan are ahead of Rock slightly too. But based on that criteria and that criteria only, I'd have to give it to Rock. They're all household names, maybe the other 2 moresoe than Rock, but after that look at the categorys. Rock either wins or ties for all of the rest, except maybe drawing power which goes the other way but he isnt' far behind on.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:52 PM   #39
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If it wasn't for

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-Wrestling ability
It would actually be Hogan ( *barf* ). But with those two, it's The Rock.



And for the record, if you're judging this by sports entertainment standards (as Naitch's criteria seemed to head toward), you can only really consider The Rock, Stone Cold Steve Austin, and Hogan. The three guys who were resoundingly powerful crossover stars whose fame reached well beyond any fan who had even remotely watched wrestling and into pure mainstream.
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