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Old 02-02-2007, 09:15 PM   #1
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Mid and undercarders you miss...

Steve Blackman. I won't defend him as the greatest of pro wrestling, but his matches were solid and entertaining. He could have used a lethal injection of verbal skill, but he's the kind of no-nonsense fighter that I think we could stand to see in WWE.

Stevie Richards. He may be in ECW right now, but I don't remember. If he is, disregard him. He's one of those guys I've always loved, despite knowing he's going to job to (whoever's up).

Muhammad Hassan. Long live the Hassaning!

Ultimo Dragon. One of my fave Cruisers.

Farooq. One minute, you're part of a loveable tag team, basking in mediocrity. The next thing you know...DAMN!


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Old 02-02-2007, 09:16 PM   #2
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Also Crash and Molly Holly. RIP on the former. Molly's one of my favorite female workers.
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Old 02-02-2007, 09:21 PM   #3
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I miss Blackman too.
Lance "if I can be serious for just a moment" Storm
D'Lo Brown circa 1998
Road Dogg in 98/99 when he went singles
Xpac in 98
Val Venis (doesn't even count these days)
Ken Shamrock (more upper midcard)
Rikishi and Too Cool
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Old 02-02-2007, 09:22 PM   #4
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Crash too
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Old 02-02-2007, 09:25 PM   #5
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D'Lo Brown from 1998 was a classic. He even made 'Sexual Chocolate' Mark Henry entertaining.

Jeff 'Woman Hater' Jarrett from 1999.

Steve Blackman bored me senseless until he found his niche in the garbage Hardcore division.

In fact, add the Hardcore division to the list.
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Old 02-02-2007, 09:57 PM   #6
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Old 02-02-2007, 09:59 PM   #7
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HEAD CHEESE!!! and Chester McCheesey
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Old 02-02-2007, 10:00 PM   #8
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lmao I remember when Steve Blackman turned heel and no one even noticed.
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Old 02-02-2007, 10:02 PM   #9
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nobody cared, all they cared about was whether or not he got the kendo stick shot off and then got off tv.
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Old 02-02-2007, 10:03 PM   #10
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Head Cheese was good stuff until they started working matches together.

Trying to choose a team name = Working a match =
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Old 02-02-2007, 10:09 PM   #11
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it was too funny. They're segments at WM2000 are great. Blackman getting pissed off at Al Snow's antics, classic.
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Old 02-02-2007, 10:49 PM   #12
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Old 02-02-2007, 10:50 PM   #13
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:00 PM   #14
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Blackman...I remember how they pushed him with the Hardcore title until finally dropping Shane off the top of the Tron at Summerslam (?) got him over. Like the Kennedy Assassination, I am sure we will all remember exactly where we were when Blackman got over (until people remembered he was Steve Blackman).
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:04 PM   #15
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Chyna. I miss his manly aura. I don't think there's another wrestler that could show up the manlyness of Chyna.

Sorry, I honestly don't know what's wrong with me tonight.
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:06 PM   #16
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Crash Holly being the super heavy weight was nothing less than classic.


The Patriot was cool, but he was nothing compa-ALIELYAAAALIEALLYEIALAAA!!!!!-red to Hassan.
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:18 PM   #17
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Taka and Funaki.... EVILLL HA HA! INDEEEEEEED!

I seriously need to find some Kaientai clips from that period... shockingly I cannot.
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:20 PM   #18
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:39 PM   #19
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omg HARDCORE HOLLY. Me and my friend's had the longest running joke of all time. Back when WWE acted like Velocity was on Saturday. And my friend and I thought if it were live on Sat. would you really pay $50 to slap Hardcore Holly's hand. Inside Joke. Might not get it
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:07 AM   #20
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:22 AM   #21
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:29 AM   #22
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Entirely too many to name. Lance Storm would probably be #1, followed by Stevie Richards and Waylon Mercy.
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Old 02-03-2007, 02:31 AM   #23
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Old 02-03-2007, 03:57 AM   #24
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I loved when DDP was a midcarder in WCW. Even during his time with having Maxx Muscle as a bodyguard and all that. Classic stuff. He had some superb matches in WCW, even with job guys. Really great talent. I liked him in WWE too, but they could've done so much more with him; though him smiling into the camera every week at random times was keeping him on TV, so I can't complain.

Dean Malenko and Marty Jannetty are two others.

The Stud Stable, with Colonel Robert Parker in WCW. Geez, everyone was in there at some point. Dick Slater, Bunkhouse Buck, Arn Anderson, Steve Austin, Mike Enos, etc. All great talents in their own respective ways.

Another guy I liked a lot was Johnny B. Badd / Marc Mero.

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Old 02-03-2007, 04:43 AM   #25
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The crusierwieghts from WCW. Got 5-10 mins to kill, throw in a 6 man tag team match with them.

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Old 02-03-2007, 11:02 AM   #27
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D'lo Brown during his European title run. When getting announced coming to the ring he would hail from a different European city each time.

Ken Shamrock

Saturn

Glacier (mostly for the ring entrance)

Kanyon as DDP (the random Kanyon Cutters were
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Old 02-03-2007, 02:44 PM   #28
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Glacier (mostly for the ring entrance)
Lol, I remember watching the first time he came out, I was at a friends house and we we're all "Man, this guy is gonna be BAD ASS!" And then he started wrestling and it was like "Wow, he sucks."

Anyway...I guess I'll rank my top 5 midcarders missed...

5. Kanyon
4. WCW Chris Jericho (with Ralphus! that was damn funny)
3. Steve Blackman
2. D'Lo Brown

And.....

1. Lance Storm

I really think he could have been a lot bigger than he was....
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I loved Positively Kanyon. Classic.

I loved the one night, when they went to the outside wide shot of the arena, ala WWE RAW, and you see off in the distance Kanyon giving a Kayon Cutter to some guy outside there, then they pan in on him running away from him.

Good stuff
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Old 02-03-2007, 11:07 AM   #30
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Forgot the West Texas Rednecks as well.
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:10 PM   #31
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:47 PM   #32
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:52 PM   #33
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I honestly miss Chyna too. I must say she was a decent IC champion and her fueds with Jericho and JJ were great. Besides just being one of the greatest managers she went on to be a draw of her own. She was a bigger star than just about everyone on the roster today.
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Old 02-03-2007, 02:49 PM   #34
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Come on....Curt 'Mr. Perfect' Henning. He was an upper mid-card guy.
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:01 PM   #35
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Come on....Curt 'Mr. Perfect' Henning. He was an upper mid-card guy.
Henning was upper mid card in WWE. In WCW he was just plain mid card. I stated the West Texas Rednecks as the rest of the guys in that stable were all lower card.
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Old 02-03-2007, 03:17 PM   #36
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:47 PM   #38
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The IC division from Randy Savage (1986) - Ken Shamrock (1998). They tarnished that belt alarmingly quickly beyond Shamrock, not through the calibre of champions, which was rather high, but rather the presentation and prestige of the title, and the frequency of title changes.

Even great wrestlers like Benoit, Jericho and Angle couldn't do much with the belt when they only had it for a week or two.

Prior to that, the Intercontinental title was always the "Wrestler's Belt". While Hogan, Warrior, Slaughter and co were headlining with the WWE Heavyweight championship, the best action was to be found with Hennig, Rude, Von Erich, Hart etc in the I-C division.
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The IC division from Randy Savage (1986) - Ken Shamrock (1998). They tarnished that belt alarmingly quickly beyond Shamrock, not through the calibre of champions, which was rather high, but rather the presentation and prestige of the title, and the frequency of title changes.

Even great wrestlers like Benoit, Jericho and Angle couldn't do much with the belt when they only had it for a week or two.

Prior to that, the Intercontinental title was always the "Wrestler's Belt". While Hogan, Warrior, Slaughter and co were headlining with the WWE Heavyweight championship, the best action was to be found with Hennig, Rude, Von Erich, Hart etc in the I-C division.

I'm going to have to disagree, its just reflective of the pace of the business changing. It can be seen with the World Title too over those years.

Benoit and Jericho were phenomenal, and lent a lot of credibility to the belt. William Regal and RVD followed, even reigns by Kane. Randy Ortons IC title reign was great, Christian and Edge were.

The IC title picture has always fluctuated, but you can't say it dropped off quickly just because the belt changed hands more often. Look at the IC division in say, 96. It has been way more credible in times since then.

I personally am liking Jeff Hardy as IC champion right now.

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I'm going to have to disagree, its just reflective of the pace of the business changing. It can be seen with the World Title too over those years.

Benoit and Jericho were phenomenal, and lent a lot of credibility to the belt. William Regal and RVD followed, even reigns by Kane. Randy Ortons IC title reign was great, Christian and Edge were.

The IC title picture has always fluctuated, but you can't say it dropped off quickly just because the belt changed hands more often. Look at the IC division in say, 96. It has been way more credible in times since then.

I personally am liking Jeff Hardy as IC champion right now.
I agree that Randy Orton had a good run, as did Shelton Benjamin. But there's no way you can consider that belt as prestigious as it once was, even during the 1996 talent drought. I'm not knocking the class of the wrestlers who have held the title since. But there was a time when the Intercontinental title was the main event at house shows around the globe, during the days of Honky Tonk Man and Ultimate Warrior.

Do you think fans would be satisfied with a Jeff Hardy vs Johnny Nitro main event at a house show, or even on Raw, if none of the "big stars" appeared before them? I think not.

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