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Old 02-12-2007, 10:50 PM   #1
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Year by year MVP...

Go back for every year you have been watching wrestling and name who the MVP was in your opinion for that year...

Tovo's MVPs

2007 - Irronically, still havn't seen a single second of any promotion's work from this year...

2006 - Kevin Nash, sure he wasn't actually wrestling all that much, but he made 2006 a great year for wrestling. Made TNA major league in my dilusion mind.

2005 - Shawn Michaels, just never seemed to have a bad match that year. Not quite up to his old stanards, but half a HBK is still twice most any other wrestler.

2004 - JBL, I did originally say Jericho, but in all honesty, JBL becoming JBL overcame Jericho's semi bland year...

2003 - Chris Jericho, it was either him or Michaels. Their fued that year was BY FAR the best thing wrestling did in that 365 day span. And while it was a close call between the two of them, I was pulling for Jericho cause I thought he still had Main Eventer written all over him...

2002 - Ric Flair, his comeback to wrestling...oh my god, I can not explain what that was like for me. Some of the greatest moments of my life was getting to watch him walk down the ramp...for what I thought would be...just a few more times...

2001 - Chris Jericho, Benoit Ladder Match (IMO the best ladder match ever), solid IC Title run, Tag Title run with Benoit, fueds with HHH & Austin combo, only decent heel of WWF during the InVasion, finally won "The Big One" (WCW World Title), defeated Austin & Rock in one night to become THE UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMPION. My biggest Jericholic year ever.

2000 - The Rock, I don't know what to say, everyone smelled was The Rock was cooking in 2000. He was simply electric every second...though Jericho comes VERY close as a second place.

1999 - Triple H, I loved him growing into The Game. One of the best character transitions ever made.

1998 - Steve Austin, 1998 was the year of the Austin. Nuff said.

1997 - Shawn Michaels, I consider 1997 to be the peak of Michaels career. There was literally not one thing I would have changed about anything he did that year. Not one. And please, dig as much into that comment as you want to.

1996 - Kevin Nash, nWo was awesome simply because Nash was there.

1995 - Ric Flair, Flair = God, really found that evil side of Flair.

1994 - Shawn Michaels, Hogan had come to WCW and over shadowed Flair so I was kind of pissed off at WCW and I remember Michaels from back when Flair was in WWE. Basically Shawn Michaels was the first person that could get me to watch WWE programming without Flair on it...

1993 - Ric Flair, great year for The Naitch. The last of the Hogan-free WCW days...

1992 - Ric Flair, his best year ever not counting his time with the Horsemen

1991 - Ric Flair, single handedly made me start watching WWE television

1990 - Ric Flair, his fued with Sting made me love Sting...but REALLY made me love Flair more.

1989 - Ric Flair, his year with Ricky Steamboat, still unbelievable to me. Probably what I consider to be the best matches ever put on by anyone. I think Flair/Steamboat was what paved the way for the 90's style of wrestling. Plus his breif fued with Funk was awesome.

1988 - Tully Blanchard, him teaming with Arn was incredible. Second favorite Tag Team of all time. Plus the Horsemen were all riding strong. Incredible year.

1887 - Tully Blanchard, his long reign with the TV Title was incredible. Probably one of my favorite title reigns of all time.

1986 - Ric Flair, tough year for me to call, but Flair BARELY sneaks out in front of Blanchard.

1985 - Ric Flair, him and the Horsemen are the reason I started watching wrestling.

The MVPs of MVPs

Ric Flair: 9 years
Shawn Michaels: 3 years
Kevin Nash: 2 years
Chris Jericho: 2 years
Tully Blanchard: 2 years
Triple H: 1 year
JBL: 1 year
The Rock: 1 year
Steve Austin: 1 year


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I would have no problem with HBK getting a farewell run with the title before he retires.

With that said though, there is no belt in the industry that HBK could win that would add to his career. HBK's career is built around him being HBK, not winning a bunch of titles.

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Old 02-12-2007, 10:54 PM   #2
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I noticed Nash only made it twice. I'm dissapointed.
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Old 02-12-2007, 10:58 PM   #3
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Hey, come on now, 2 out of 22 years isn't bad. And if you think about it, only HBK and Flair had more years than Nash...
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Old 02-12-2007, 11:19 PM   #4
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I think that Hogan should probably make it in there somewhere but its your call.... also I think that Goldberg should be thought of as well because he did a lot for the monday night war between wwe (then wwf) and wcw. I remember that the night they had him beat hogan on nitro for the title the ratings for wcw were rediculous and they favored wcw for a long time with his build up and eventual title hold.
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Old 02-12-2007, 11:27 PM   #5
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Something you should know about...every day of my life I have regretting being forced to share this planet with Hogan. I hate him. He makes my most hated wrestler almost every single year.

As for Goldberg, I was far beyond liking someone due to their hype by that point. He never came close to my personal favorites...
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Old 02-12-2007, 11:35 PM   #6
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So...uh...is anyone else going to play?
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Old 02-12-2007, 11:49 PM   #7
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HAHA that funny what you said about hogan.... i met the guy a long time ago when I was a kid... my dad works for american airlines and one time i was with him at the airport in ohare and for whatever reason hogan was comming through on that day. Celebrities usually dont have to walk right through the regular terminals but he did and I saw him and me loving wrestling like I do I asked him for his autograph. He was like sure kid and started to sign a peice of paper or whatever and his fat friend that is on that reality show he has walked over and said they found somewhere to eat and hogan said good im hungry and threw what he was signing in my face and walked away. He didnt even finish. So i hate hogan more than anything but I have to admit that he was very important for wrestling.
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plus this isnt much of a game if your going to shoot everyones ideas out of the water
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Old 02-12-2007, 11:54 PM   #9
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Not for me. Infact, Hogan's arrival in a company has historically been one of the biggest reasons I tend to stop caring about a company on a whole.

I have never had a close meeting with him. Other than at live shows, I saw him once outside a store in New York signing autographs or something. He was arriving in a limo and just kind of joking shouted "You're a joke." I don't think he heard me over BC's and the other idiots' cheering...
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Old 02-12-2007, 11:55 PM   #10
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Actually, I am simply stating why he isn't going to go on my list. YOU tried to invalidate my list by saying it should have had Hogan or Goldberg because they were influential...as far as I'm aware...I don't see anyone else's list, so I havn't even had a chance to shoot other people's ideas down.

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Old 02-13-2007, 12:01 AM   #11
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2007 - Matt Damon
2006 - Matt Damon
2005 - Matt Damon
2004 - Matt Damon
2003 - Matt Damon
2002 - Vin Diesel - In an average living room there are 1,242 objects Vin Diesel could use to kill you, including the room itself.
2001 - Ichiro Suzuki
2000 - Matt Damon
1999 - Matt Damon
1998 - Matt Damon
1997 - Michael Jordan
1996 - Matt Damon
1995 - Michael Jordan
1994 - Matt Damon
1993 - Chuck Norris
1992 - Matt Damon
1991 - Michael Jordan
1990 - Michael Jordan
1989 - Matt Damon
1988 - Matt Damon
1987 - Michael Jordan
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This is more who I enjoyed the most at the time, not so much who I may have liked if I had watched that year at my current age. I was 5 when I first started, just for reference.

1987: Hogan
1988: Savage
1989: Mr. Perfect
1990: Mr. Perfect
1991: Bret Hart
1992: Ric Flair
1993: Shawn Michaels
1994: Bret Hart
1995: Nash
1996: Shawn Michaels
1997: Stone Cold
1998: Stone Cold
1999: The Rock
2000: Kurt Angle
2001: Stone Cold
2002: Kurt Angle
2003: Kurt Angle
2004: JBL
2005: Eddie Guerrero

I haven't actually watched wrestling since December '05, since that's when my TV broke, so I can't really decide after that.

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I would play, but it would mostly be a repeat of TOVO. Plus I don't care.
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1987: Hogan

1988: The Macho Man. This was his big year. The Mega Powers, this is when he got on the map as almost Hogan's equal.

1989: Ricky The Dragon Steamboat. Macho Man comes in second.

1990: Ultimate Warrior. The peak of his stardom, the Skydome and all.

1991: Hulk Hogan again, he was just too big for me to not give it to him, even though I hate to.

1992: Ric Flair. Basically his run with WWF. The royal rumble, the macho man elizabeth storyline.

1993: Bret Hart. Picked up the ball.

1994: Bret Hart. Ran with it.

1995: Bret Hart. Still running. Though Shawn was creeping up.

1996: Shawn Michaels. Yea, NWO was kicking the WWF's ass into the ground. But Shawn Michaels was the WWF. He kept things afloat and this was his year.

1997: Tie. Shawn Michaels and Steve Austin. Shawn wasn't quite gone, Steve wasn't quite there. Very equal this year.

1998: The Year of Austin. Though Mick Foley gets second place.

1999: Stone Cold Steve Austin. Carries over from 98, though HHH is a close second.

2000: The Rock, SNL, Scorpion King and all the fame that came with the peak year of The Rock

2001: Chris Jericho. Huge year for him, great matches amazing heat and capped off by title wins.

2002: I'm gonna say RVD or Jericho. Just because they were carrying the midcard while oldtimers held them down.

2003: Brock Lesnar. Half of its because they gave him the world, but he certainly had a huge year.

2004: Tie. Chris Benoit and Randy Orton

2005: Eddie Guerrero

2006: Kurt Angle, giving him the MVP just because of his beginning to 2006 in WWE and then the big deal he made by going to TNA.

2007: Obv too early to tell
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Jeritron, can I ask...is this a list of who you think was the MVP, or sho was your personal MVP. I was asking who made you personally tune in more than anyone else. If that's the list, then , but it seems like your list was more a "Who was the top dog" of the year.
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Yea, I kinda just gauged it on who was the "most valuable" to their team (promotion).
I didn't gauge it on just skill or even what personally entertained me. If so my list would be much different, and I could post another interpretation.
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Old 02-13-2007, 12:50 AM   #20
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Yeah, it was worded very vague. I was going for more of a "Who was your personal MVP..." Who you enjoyed the most...
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Old 02-13-2007, 10:23 AM   #22
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This is going by my personal favorites. Keep in mind I was 4 when I started watching in 87.

87: Hogan of course
88: Hogan
89: Yep, Hogan
90: Warrior
91: Warrior
92: Bret
93: Bret
94: Bret
95: Bret
96: Pillman
97: Bret
98: Kevin Nash
99: Taker
2000: Chris Jericho
2001: Austin
2002: AJ Styles (I swear I ordered the $10 PPV's just to see him as a heel)
2003: John Cena (god, he was awesome
2004: Come on, you know. Randy Orton
2005: Batista
2006: HBK
2007: So far, HBK
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1996: Hulk Hogan
1997: Bret Hart
1998: Austin
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I only started watching in 1999, so here are my personal MVP's from that year onward:

1999: Triple H/The Rock
2000: Kurt Angle
2001: Chris Jericho
2002: Rob Van Dam
2003: Brock Lesnar
2004: Chris Benoit
2005: Eddie Guerrero
2006: Edge
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2006 – Shawn Michaels
2005 – Eddie Guerrero
2004 – Eddie Guerrero
2003 – Kurt Angle
2002 – Kurt Angle
2001 – Stone Cold Steve Austin
2000 – Triple H
1999 – Triple H
1998 – Stone Cold Steve Austin
1997 – Shawn Michaels
1996 – Shawn Michaels
1995 – Bret Hart
1994 – Bret Hart
1993 – Bret Hart
1992 – Bret Hart
1991 – Hulk Hogan
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1990-1999: A friend of mine told me about wrestling a lot, and I watched some of his tapes and played wwe videogames during this time, but didn't watch regularly. The only wrestlers I cared about were Undertaker and Yokozuna

1999: Jericho - got me to start watching wrestling

2000: Benoit

2001: Jericho

2002: Angle

2003: Angle

2004: Benoit

2005: Eddie

2006: Samoa Joe

2007: Christian Cage
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Old 02-13-2007, 11:58 PM   #27
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From Taker & Yoko to some of the best technical wrestlers in the modern era.
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:16 AM   #28
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I was born in 1985 and I have watched *most* of my life. But when I was young its hard for me to make legit picks for "MVP" because I really didn't watch it THAT seriously. So I will make mine with from when I thought I could make half-intelligent decisions about wrestling.

1996 - Hogan (It's close between him and Nash, but Hogan was the frontman of the nWo so I give it to him)
1997 - Shawn Michaels
1998 - Austin
1999 - The Rock & Triple H (tie)
2000 - The Rock & Triple H (tie)
2001 - Chris Jericho
2002 - Kurt Angle
2003-2005 I quit watching so I will not pick anyone for these years...
2006 - Edge (finally moved up the card)
2007 Early Pick - Shawn Michaels & Christian Cage (tie, CC because if TNA makes any headway this year it will be in large part thanks to him I believe)
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Old 02-14-2007, 01:24 AM   #29
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91-97 it was Bret Hart
98-02 it was Rob Van Dam
'03 was Chris Jericho
'04 was Chris Benoit
'05 was Shawn Michaels
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:09 AM   #30
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Bret was never MVP of anything in his whole life. Great wrestler, NEVER near any of the greats like Flair and Michaels however.
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:26 AM   #31
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Bret was never MVP of anything in his whole life. Great wrestler, NEVER near any of the greats like Flair and Michaels however.
I would almost hate to say, but this is a pretty accurate statement. I wouldn't say he was never NEAR MVP of anything, but although he was a great wrestler and big star I don't he ever got to the level of the all-time great, great, GREATS of the business like the names you mentioned and more. I don't think he ever quite got on level with Flair, Michaels, The Rock, Triple H....you could go back further in time too, but he never quite got to THAT level, IMO.
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:20 AM   #32
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why would you say that?
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:24 AM   #33
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why would you say that?
Even though I didn't say it, I agree with it on account of it being true. Bret is unquestionably a great talent, but the best, hardly...
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:27 AM   #34
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I agree, I don't think he's the best, but to say he's not near HBK, I disagree with.
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:37 AM   #35
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I agree, I don't think he's the best, but to say he's not near HBK, I disagree with.
It has always been my opinion that Michaels could clean the floor with Hart.

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It has always been my opinion that Michaels could clean the floor with Hart.

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BUT HE SCREWED BRET, THEREFORE HE IS THE WORSTEST WRESTLER EVAR!
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I agree, I don't think he's the best, but to say he's not near HBK, I disagree with.
Nah, dude, Bret was a great wrestler. But he can't touch HBK. I suppose it's a matter of opinion in some ways, but in other ways you just have to look at in-ring ability and say that while Bret was so well versed in technical wrestling and one of the safest guys to work with, that's all he was. He could never dictate a match or give the fans a main event quite like Flair or Michaels could.

If you held a gun to my head I would always tell you that Flair and Michaels are the two greatest of all-time, but I could never pick the better man.

Bret was very good, never great. Wouldn't be close to my top 10 of all-time.
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There is a difference between MVP and the best.

Bret Hart was clearly the MVP for the WWE for like a year or two after Hogan left.
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There is a difference between MVP and the best.

Bret Hart was clearly the MVP for the WWE for like a year or two after Hogan left.
See, I would say that all the while Hart was wearing the gold, Michaels was still the MVP if you average out his reactions and his matches. Hart was obviously pushed once McMahon lost his Roid Monsters, and he was pushed as the top man of the company. But while Hart was WWF Champion, Michaels was making the rest of the show. And Michaels (I believe) was the man who people were actually tunning in for...
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